General => Lounge => Topic started by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 09:51:30 PM
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 09:51:30 PM
Well school is about to start, I still need a job, and the mark STILL isnt done. After talking to my dad hes gonna get me a car.
Im looking at a 1984 ford ranger. 2.3, 5 speed, 92k miles, needs a brake line price 1000, 1200 if he fixes the brake line If i get it it will get my 2.3t from my old bird, as well as the rear gears, and the wheels from the MK7 http://providence.craigslist.org/car/774532069.html
Next is a turbo coupe near his house with a rebuilt motor, and new turbo. Thats all i know about it, other then its a 87-88 aero bird. I think he said 1600, so I think its a little out of our range We are looking for other birds, rangers, and fox mustangs:evilgrin:
Last resort is I take home his 88 turbo coupe, so no matter what I WILL have a new car/truck, a RWD, FORD car/truck. If I get the ranger, I will keep the mark. If i get a bird or mustang, it will get the 5 lug and brand new brake stuff, along with other things. If its a mustang it will be a 2.3 and get the turbo coupe motor, or a 5.0 and get all the mark mods
If I part the mark, I WILL find another
Now I know all the basic mods for the turbo motor(it will get them all and more), anyone know the ranger swap write ups?
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: 88FoxBird on August 06, 2008, 09:57:36 PM
Yep sure do. 2.3T Swap (http://"http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51") I plan on doing the same to my '88 before winter.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 09:59:08 PM
awesome!! thanks!
Title: 2.3Tswoop in Ranger.
Post by: 88TurboCoupeman01 on August 06, 2008, 10:05:28 PM
8.8 rear end swoop ( will need the axle housing cut and custom axles, if u want the rear to last.) If its going to stay stock u can keep the 8" rear if I'm not mistaken thats what it comes with.
But the most imprtant things You will need to swoop are
The Engine and Wiring harness T-5 Tranny if its going to stay an Manual. The clutch and Clutch/Flywheel, Clutch hydrolics, and slave cylinder. Add a boost gauge. Bigger tires cause I think you the Ranger comes with 14's you will need a 16 to handle that power and 15 might work not sure though. Custom Drive shaft and yolk. Not sure what else you would need anyone else know chim in.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 10:13:57 PM
lol its a 5speed ranger, its keeping the stock trans, and as far as i know rangers have 8.8 rears..... already have 17x8 wheels with 245's on them
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Ifixyawata on August 06, 2008, 10:31:35 PM
Rangers do not have 8.8" rears, I believe.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 06, 2008, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: 88TurboCoupeman01;230945
8.8 rear end swoop ( will need the axle housing cut and custom axles, if u want the rear to last.) If its going to stay stock u can keep the 8" rear if I'm not mistaken thats what it comes with.
But the most imprtant things You will need to swoop are
The Engine and Wiring harness T-5 Tranny if its going to stay an Manual. The clutch and Clutch/Flywheel, Clutch hydrolics, and slave cylinder. Add a boost gauge. Bigger tires cause I think you the Ranger comes with 14's you will need a 16 to handle that power and 15 might work not sure though. Custom Drive shaft and yolk. Not sure what else you would need anyone else know chim in.
Dude, what orifice did you pull that info out of???
First, the 4-cyl Ranger tranny will bolt right onto a 2.3t. The 2.3t block is identical to the non-turbo block.
Second, so will the clutch, hydraulics, bellhousing, etc.
Third, changing to a T-5 would actually be more work than keeping the Ranger tranny, since the shifter is in a different location (and it would likely require a custom crossmember as well).
Fourth, rim size has very little to do with how much power tires can handle. The stock tires on a Ranger would very easily "handle" the power a 2.3t puts out. He could easily upgrade to larger 14" tires (such as a 235/60R14). 16" wheels are absolutely not required.
Fifth, a custom driveshaft and yoke (not "yolk" - yolk is from eggs) is not required. Stock tranny, stock rear end, stock-style block. Nothing is moved. No drivetrain dimensions are changed. Why would he need custom driveshaft and yoke?
Sixth, a "custom" 8.8 setup with cut housings and custom axles would not be required, either. The existing rear end should easily hold up to a 2.3t, but even if he wanted an 8.8 he could simply get an 8.8" rear from a few-years-newer Ranger or Explorer that would bolt in.
Seriously, man. If you can't provide accurate info, why bother posting at all? I don't even know much about the turbo Lima, but even I recognized your post as rubbish. The only part of your post that was correct was the fact that he'd need the engine and harness. Thankfully I know Mason is smart enough to know better with the other "advice" you spouted.
Misleading info you pull out of your ass is not a help. It's a hindrance. You make things worse by leading people down the wrong path. If you don't know, don't make things up.
You remember you made that post asking why you got the "red dot"? Posts like this certainly don't help.
/rant
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: HAVI on August 06, 2008, 10:48:41 PM
:iagree: The 1991-1994 explorer will have a drum rear end, as will the rangers and BII's. My BII had a 3.73 gear ratio (4x4). These will likely be the 7.5". The 1995 and newer explorers had 8.8" rear with disc brakes. Not sure all of them did (8.8" that is), but one look underneath will show you. It would be a good pickup, as you describe with your mods. Also gives you a nice parts runner (and furniture mover, lol). You'll be the envy of all your apartment renting friends, :punchballs:
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;230958
Dude, what orifice did you pull that info out of???
First, the 4-cyl Ranger tranny will bolt right onto a 2.3t. The 2.3t block is identical to the non-turbo block.
Second, so will the clutch, hydraulics, bellhousing, etc.
Third, changing to a T-5 would actually be more work than keeping the Ranger tranny, since the shifter is in a different location (and it would likely require a custom crossmember as well).
Fourth, rim size has very little to do with how much power tires can handle. The stock tires on a Ranger would very easily "handle" the power a 2.3t puts out. He could easily upgrade to larger 14" tires (such as a 235/60R14). 16" wheels are absolutely not required.
Fifth, a custom driveshaft and yoke (not "yolk" - yolk is from eggs) is not required. Stock tranny, stock rear end, stock-style block. Nothing is moved. No drivetrain dimensions are changed. Why would he need custom driveshaft and yoke?
Sixth, a "custom" 8.8 setup with cut housings and custom axles would not be required, either. The existing rear end should easily hold up to a 2.3t, but even if he wanted an 8.8 he could simply get an 8.8" rear from a few-years-newer Ranger or Explorer that would bolt in.
Seriously, man. If you can't provide accurate info, why bother posting at all? I don't even know much about the turbo Lima, but even I recognized your post as rubbish. The only part of your post that was correct was the fact that he'd need the engine and harness. Thankfully I know Mason is smart enough to know better with the other "advice" you spouted.
Misleading info you pull out of your ass is not a help. It's a hindrance. You make things worse by leading people down the wrong path. If you don't know, don't make things up.
You remember you made that post asking why you got the "red dot"? Posts like this certainly don't help.
/rant
Thanks. I knew rangers had an 8.8, just not which years. And your right I knew it was all . If i was going to need a new transmission set up I wouldnt even think about it. As far as wheels the truck has aftermarket ones on it, and I would only put the bigger ones on there for looks. I live up north, wide tires SUCK in snow(you know that) so the ones on it would be much better anyway. Im researching and I still have to see if the truck is worth buying first. Im not getting a rust bucket
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Chuck W on August 06, 2008, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: 88FoxBird;230942
Yep sure do. 2.3T Swap (http://"http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51") I plan on doing the same to my '88 before winter.
It would be a little more difficult starting with a carbed '84, but it could be done.
The '84 would have a 7.5 rear with 3.45's most likely. A T5 swap would be more work...been there done that (started with a 2.9 A4LD truck).
Gen 1 Rangers are about the only truck I like, and I don't like them much. I got SOOO sick of driving a truck all the time.
88TurboCoupeman01...engage your brain before you engage your fingers on the keyboard...seriously.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: HAVI;230972
:iagree: The 1991-1994 explorer will have a drum rear end, as will the rangers and BII's. My BII had a 3.73 gear ratio (4x4). These will likely be the 7.5". The 1995 and newer explorers had 8.8" rear with disc brakes. Not sure all of them did (8.8" that is), but one look underneath will show you. It would be a good pickup, as you describe with your mods. Also gives you a nice parts runner (and furniture mover, lol). You'll be the envy of all your apartment renting friends, :punchballs:
the reasons why I want it I can still use it for light truck stuff, its not a huge v8 gas sucker truck, and it will all be cheap allowing me to have money for the mark(if it stays) or the stang, AND college.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
what else does it need since its carbed I didnt think about that.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: HAVI on August 06, 2008, 11:04:38 PM
1987 (iirc) or newer fuel lines and efi pump. http://www.therangerstation.com is a great resource for Ranger stuff.
go to tech library and engine rebuild/swap
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Chuck W on August 06, 2008, 11:08:50 PM
A tank/lines and pump(s) from a later Gen 1 should suffice.
On my '88, I just swapped out the stock inline pump for one from a turbo car as I was not building a monster.
Keeping the stock trans would be the easiest for you to avoid any excessive downtime. Swap the engine, upgrade the fuel system, and sort out the electronics and you'd be good.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 11:19:21 PM
thats more then I was hoping but if this truck turns out to be rock solid id think about it with that much to do it will prob wait a little. i have a 90 im looking at for 500 but i think its gonna be a rust heap Was it a fun truck chuck? Im not looking for a rocket, but I want something fun.
My dads bird that I might just end up with (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/lincolnnew089.jpg)
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Chuck W on August 06, 2008, 11:24:35 PM
Yeah, it was a fun truck. About 200hp, T5 swap and all. 3rd gear spooled drive-bys were fun. Folks had no idea what was going on. It just drove like a truck... :p
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 06, 2008, 11:33:47 PM
did the bird seats bolt right in! I plan on doing my ROH wheels, a boost valve, custom 3 inch exhaust, and maybe a custom header, and IC set up to not have to mod the heater. I just hope the truck is nice, or I find one as nice as yours that thing is SWEET!
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: Chuck W on August 06, 2008, 11:43:52 PM
No the seats didn't just bolt in. Well the seats did...the seat belts did not. The truck had a split bench and weirdness for the sliders, etc due to the access to the cab. A std cab might be different.
You won't need a "custom" header unless you want to keep AC (if the truck has it), and even at that, you can get ones to work. I had a 3" on mine as well, built it from scratch. Intercooled and about 16# boost.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: gumby on August 07, 2008, 07:25:55 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;230978
Like this?
or maybe like this? (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/wheelin%20and%20meet%20pics/50341056.jpg)
or maybe this one? (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/wheelin%20and%20meet%20pics/8e985ca7.jpg) (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/89%20ranger%20-%20SOLD/c6e8291c.jpg)
the grey truck was my first turbo ranger....i think i have a pic of the engine bay at home...ill add it tonight if i find it. the black truck was my second turboranger. if all goes well i will be starting on my third sometime soon. parts gathering is in progress...
as far as using an 84 goes, i would find a merkur harness to run the 2.3T. they are simple to work with, and there is no chassis wiring mixed into the EEC harness. toss in the the later EFI tank and lines, wire up the pump, and youd be all set.
the link to RPS is a good one. you will need to dig for basic info over there. there is only one guy i know over there started with a carb truck(83), and he is an OG so his info is buried. the older guys over there know their stuff, but dont tend to help n00bs out until they show that they can help themselves some too. careful what you read over there....there are some young guys who spout from the wrong orifice
also turboford.net, and rangersrevenge.com are both places to data mine for swap info.
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 07, 2008, 01:43:17 PM
I am still looking for a good truck just got a emal form a guy with one, a 90, 2.3, 5 speed, and thats about all i know, other then it needs a filler hose. 500 bucks so I have to call and ask about it. I refuse to buy a rot box, but it would be nice to start with a EFI truck to bypass most the electrical , and parts hunting
Just got a email the 84 is sold....
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 07, 2008, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;231000
No the seats didn't just bolt in. Well the seats did...the seat belts did not. The truck had a split bench and weirdness for the sliders, etc due to the access to the cab. A std cab might be different.
You won't need a "custom" header unless you want to keep AC (if the truck has it), and even at that, you can get ones to work. I had a 3" on mine as well, built it from scratch. Intercooled and about 16# boost.
thanks nice to know maybe my mark seats will make it into what ever I get
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 10, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
Im down at my dads looking for cars. He said he knows were theres a bird with a rebuilt motor, and new turbo.(88 turbo coupe) He says the guy wants 500 for it. Im thinking if I bribe my mom by telling her ill part out the lincoln and get rid of all my other junk maybe she will pay for it. You guys think it would be a good idea to get it if its a solid car? Use the lincoln to do a 5 lug swap on it so I can use all my brand new brakes and new wheels. IDK I love the mark, but I need a car before the end of the month for school and work. I cant keep using my brothers car, and other people for rides. I need opinions here.... If its a ncie car should I jump on it and wait and find a nicer lincoln?
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 10, 2008, 01:54:18 PM
If anyone local to maryland/penn/or west virgina has or knows of any turbo coupes, or just a v8 tbird PLEASE let me know, NO RUST BUCKETS, NO PROJECT CARS. thanks a bunch guys
Title: 1987 Cougar
Post by: shaftdaniel on August 11, 2008, 06:16:43 PM
I saw this on ebay and figured I would post the link. Good luck in your search.
I'd be looking at this seriously except the last I need is another car (at the moment).
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 12, 2008, 05:44:17 PM
Well guys thanks for the effort I sat down and talked to my dad and a new car just isnt gonna happen because of money so hes gonna spend 2-3 days up at my house and we are gonna bang out the lincoln and get it ready for inspection!
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: bhazard on August 12, 2008, 06:04:14 PM
I think youre gonna end up hurtin on the gas man....
Title: The time has come... Getting a new car.
Post by: daboss351 on August 13, 2008, 03:13:05 PM
yea more then likely, only cause I have a bit of a lead foot 16-18 city going easy on it, and 24-28 highway will be nice and still have the balls to get out of its own way mileage should get better too once it gets the gt40 intake and heads.