yep, he's been stained
He's 8 so having waited so long to be a winner of the lunchable contest, he finally pealed back the sticker on the box. The winning sticker said
"here's your passcode to enter"
Visit http://www.yourfreesong.com and enter it. dont share it with anyone else,,remeber you must be over 18.,,,ect ect bla bla bla.
thiscode may only be used once so make sure to save your free song.
now thinking of it being a Nick sponsered product and how excited he was,, i went there.
I followed the instructions but it gave me a choice, to play from its location or save to disk.
i thought,, chance would like to listen to it again so lets put it in a folder which i named "Chance" under my documents. This site required no personal info other than my email. The only time i typed this word "chance" was creating the directory.
started to download and for gods sake that puppy was too much for dial up. I told chance we'd get to it later when the computer wasnt hogged by daddy job shopping.
the very next hour or so,, i get an email.........
from Joe Inman,,,,,,,subject- chance has a friend.
Im like wtf? it trew me off cause it was not the typical spam,, it named someone in my house!!!!!!!!!!! i did not open it up but finally i did when i showed the wife.
well,, here is the text in the mail........
Hi!
My details:
Screenname: Erica1976
Age: 28
Status: Single
Gender: F
You can reach me here:
the link took us to a not so child like event,,,,,,,get the point.
Tieing up all this together, i see that the tv channel Nick sponsers products and had control of this contest. Im outraged and would like some support on this because im not really sure of the scope of effort on my part to make something happen.
If anyone would like specifics,, email me.
scott
wonder if there is a federal site to turn them in.
if you are ambishous (sp?), since everyone in the world sues, you could probably too.
Thats complete BS, I hate spam, its should be a federal offensive to do it, for one thing it usually involves shagual material exposing it to younger children. Or it causes your computer to screw up. Lately on ICQ every 5 minutes I get spam. Makes me soooooo mad.
Butif I were you look for sites that you can report them too.
You should send a email to Bill O'reilly, he has a national audience and seems to have a great effect on large companies and there marketing practices. I believe he got pepsi to pull there ads using a rapper named "ludicris" and nickoloen to pull a show with rossane that talked about gay and lesbian relationships (kids program) Anyway, another person is Glen Beck, he has a talk show as well, get either one of them to talk about this on the air and you will have thousands of supports behind you. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the masses can have an effect on large companies. Just do a search on Glen Beck or Bill O'reilly and you will find there contact info.
Might wanna choose someone other than O'Reilly after that whole shagual harassment incident of his..
The network paid her off (what she was looking for) so under the carpet it went...
Just what this country needs, more frivolous lawsuits!
Not surprising that that's what people would say. Amazing how much these guys can get away with and still have people support them. Oh well.. not really my problem, Fox News is banned in this house.. so I'll never have to see or hear anything the pervert has to say.
Somewhere it needs to stop with this spam. Its nuts, especially when it was sent thru a childrens program.
awww,, come on man,, dont be that passive and so liberal that a contest sponsered by Lunchable should not investigate.
Here is what i expect.......
in writting a letter from them saying whatever they think will smooth out the edges with me.
oh,, and by the way,, its probably because of outsourcing that hey lost control of thier little contest,,, true enuff?
What does an investigation have to do with a frivolous lawsuit? One can be done without the other. Also, what is it about disliking frivolous lawsuits that makes someone "liberal"?
i guess that part is for me,,,
it goes along with all that open minded thats distoryed our nations ethics and then we come to where we are now. Thats just my opinion so if theres a reply to it,, i wont respond.,, thats a totally different topic,,,please,, no flames
The whole message was for you.
I see no connection between "all that open minded ", as you put it, and your assertion that disliking frivolous lawsuits is somehow liberal. I know people all across the political landscape that dislike frivolous lawsuits, including myself.
You say you don't want any flames, yet you use rhetoric that could be described as flame-baiting. In this day and age, it's almost considered an insult to call someone a liberal. (and many times it IS used as an outright insult) How is he "passive and liberal" for not wanting to see more frivolous lawsuits? I don't recall seeing him say that nothing should be done about this, period.
I support the notion of SOMETHING being done about this issue. Negative publicity, maybe even an investigation over it.. but if it's just used as an excuse to run off to a courtroom where some John Edwards-type (you remember him, don't ya? That liberal trial lawyer-turned-vice presidential candidate..) is the only one who's going to get anything out of it, and you're gonna mudsling at anyone who dislikes frivolous lawsuits, well that's when I call foul.
I have no intention of flaming you.. and I've probably erased six or seven different lines after re-reading them and realizing they could be considered flames regardless of intent.. but I have a feeling you're going to take this as a flame no matter what I say.
man I'm the farthest thing from libral. I love US, I love George W. bush, I have nothing negative about this country. I'm against gays/lesbians. I could give to squirts about saving trees. I believe we should make a 18 hole golf course outta iraq and the rest of them.
I just think its BS that companies sell our information, SELL OUR INFO, to other advertisers who waste my day trying to figure out how to delete it.
Call me what you want, I think spam should be illegal.
Ugh.. this is going downhill fast..
i better delete it.
LOCK It BABY
tomorrow, ill find some time to dig into the Oscar Myer web site and see who to contact. Im pretty sure they are'nt even aware of the problem yet so ill handle it as such. If i get a negative rub, ill end up asking around for advice so i dont waste time and being couterproductive. I just want to let them know and find out who this guy is..........the originator of the message...
"Joe Inman"
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Sorry I started any flames. Not getting into the liberal/conservative discusson. I just think filing a suit over an adult-related mass e-mailing is a bit too much. I don't buy into the whole "if you're offended, sue someone" idea. It started with hot coffee at McDonald's and look what's happening now.
We deal with a lot of spam and related at work. Most of the time, it's removing spyware/adware from peoples' computers because of something they picked up from an e-mail or website. Being that I've used Macs for almost 20 years, I've never had to deal with any of that...it was a real wake-up call to see all this stuff happening in the PC world. I used to feel sorry for people when it happened. But now I don't. When you see people bringing in their computers to have this removed 3 and 4 and 5 times in a row, it's not the computer---it's a PEBCAK problem (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard). My observation is that most people simply haven't been trained to use a PC properly, or that they just get in bad habits and don't want to change, even it it's for the better and could possibly eliminate problems.
At work we suggest that people routinely run Ad-Aware, Spybot and M$'s own spyware beta, and to discontinue the use of IE for the use of Firefox exclusively. If people actually listen to us, almost all of their problems go away. There is a LOT more security in Firefox right out of the box. Remember that most spyware uses IE's ActiveX controls to work...not a problem with the 'Fox. We also run a site that has a lot of advertising, and if we end up linking to a paid site that has anything malicious, we demand that they remove the offending portions or we'll just ban them, and they're still out their monthly fees. We won't put up with pop-ups of any kind.
I know that's not what happened in your case Scott. You did everything you could to prevent it, but still these things will proliferate. Once these sites get your e-mail address you are put on a spam list, and that's that. The most obvious and effective thing to do is to create an e-mail address solely for spam, and use that address everywhere you can. You control that address and where it's used, therefore you KNOW it's going to collect nothing but spam, and no legitimate e-mails. That leaves your real address safe from those sites. I guess it's just rough because we're dealing with a child, and you did what you thought was right to protect him. It's 2005 and that's still not enough. Your Spidey senses should be tingling whenever you see "18+" on a website....beware!!!
Definitely contact someone at those sites and let them know what's going on. But CALL them...you will get much better customer service if you talk to a real person. Let us know what happens.
i talked to kraft foods,, very very helpful.
towards the end of my talking with the CSR , she told me that her manager had instructions to direct me to the kraft IT "contact us" web site.
That really pissed me off and i was very nice up till this point. I told her that i was just told in a reply on my topic here that this is the year 2005 and that this is the way things are. I went on and explained that i dont subscribe to that way of thinking because if i did , it would only mean that things will get worse and we should accept them. Further more,, i went on and explained that yes it is the year 2005 and we should be better rather than worse off. I also explained that as long as we blame all of this on the year 2005, we are actually saying we dont want to work hard enough to prevent the problem and thus we can always put blame somewhere else and not having to accept responsibility...,,, sounds like six sigma to me.
I asked if she felt comfortable telling me to visit another web site to address this issue of kids and porno, further more did she fell comfortable with this being her only solution. I also asked her if she felt this was the proper way to handle this by removing the human element from such an important problem and telling me to conduct my pornographic issue in a virtual enviroment.
i told her that maybe her supervisor sould be evaluated for his judgment call capablities on tough issues because it sounded like a quick bandaid answer typical of a call center setting.
she said,, well........ NO i dont think its right and maybe you should speak to someone else higher up,, i agree with you totally but no one has ever wanted to fill out an actual paper complaint form before. Im not sure how i get one in paper but leme transfer you to Paul lewis, our more experienced manager on this song contest.
I spoke with Paul and he will have someone call me in the near future with no exact time established but, in the near future. We spoke for several minutes and after he evaluated my "properties" on the email i got,, he and an IT guy determined that there could be a problem with the song download and the company that handles this contract.
i was almost breathless when i heard that last word "contract" and simply kept my mouth shut. at this point, its not about making enimies, but about identifing a problem and making good with my son.
Eric
Im interested in your reply about foxfire. sounds like it works well for you. Coming from you, it means alot cause im not a computer wiz and you are. the irony of it,,,my degree is in computer science. :giggle:
I only use Safari or foxfire, I left ie behind a year ago.