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Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: *MAYHEM* on July 11, 2008, 11:07:50 AM
My dad just bought an 88 Cougar LS V6. He's having it converted to R-134 but apparently they can't find a compressor for it. Anyone have one they can part with or know a cross-reference for a part number?
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: irv on July 11, 2008, 11:43:36 AM
wont the stock ones work with 134A. ihavent heard of anyone
having problems using the factory or replacement ones with
it.--irv
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: amooset on July 11, 2008, 01:17:12 PM
As far as I know you can retrofit the old R-12 with R-134.  I think the only difference is R-134 requires some sort of oil mixture.
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: *MAYHEM* on July 11, 2008, 01:19:53 PM
The problem is, the stock one is leaking.
 
Would one from a V6 Ranger work?
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: 88BlueBird on July 11, 2008, 01:31:35 PM
I believe the 88 3.8L used a scroll compresssor build by Nippondenso for use with R12. But i'm not sure if they ever made that compressor to work with R134A. R134A compressor usually have better seals because R134 leaks out easier than R12.  That being said...I ran my converted 88 3.8L compressor on R134 for many years and it worked fine...just had to add about 1 can of R134 a year to keep it cold.
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: d-bird on July 12, 2008, 10:32:37 PM
YEP they did! Ck out the one on my dads listed on ebay it has the r-134 compressor


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250270017439
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: JeremyB on July 13, 2008, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: *MAYHEM*;226912
My dad just bought an 88 Cougar LS V6. He's having it converted to R-134 but apparently they can't find a compressor for it. Anyone have one they can part with or know a cross-reference for a part number?
Probably an HR980 - pictured below.
(http://www.acsource.com/ProductImages/HR980%20Fr&BkLg.jpg)

They were generally regarded as marginal compressors. They cannot be rebuilt. The shaft seal is made of viton, which is incompatible with R-134a. Ford recommended against using the HR980 with R-134a. In the real world, I don't how well the HR980 tolerates R-134a.

Your two alternate options are to buy a retrofit kit - which is shown in that e-bay link, or to grab the RH side accessory brackets from an '86 3.8L with the 6P148A compressor.
Neither option is cheap since you'll need all new hoses and a new compressor.
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 15, 2008, 08:56:29 AM
If you can find a stock non leaking 88 compressor it should work fine with R-143A. I've had mine flushed and refilled with R-143A for two years and it doesn't leak at all. Works fine so far.
Title: R-134 AC compressor?
Post by: ipsd on July 16, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
I'm running R134a and aHR980 compressor. had it that way for about 5yrs now. No problems what so ever. I will tell you to get the Auto adjusting orifice tube.