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Title: build sheet ?
Post by: irv on May 07, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
for all you guys that take your cars apart, where did you find
your build sheet?the one for the capri was under the carpet.ive had the back seat out of the cougar and searched under the carpet
and had the frt seats out.nada .havent taken the trunk apart yet.
so--where was yours?--irv
Title: build sheet ?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 07, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
Mine was under the passenger seat, all messed up from the seat springs. I've heard of them being behind the inner quarter panel trim in the back seat area as well...
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Post by: Chuck W on May 07, 2008, 03:47:40 PM
I never did find one in the silver car...and I've had it ALL apart.
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Post by: shorangerbird on May 07, 2008, 05:35:30 PM
-the one on my low mile 'bird was laying ON the passenger seat.
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Post by: cougar1car on May 07, 2008, 06:03:30 PM
I found the one in my lincoln under the rear seat bottom stuck up in under the metal things under there...
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Post by: thunderjet302 on May 07, 2008, 06:51:51 PM
Mine was under the passenger seat.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on May 07, 2008, 11:13:06 PM
I've found two and both were in the rear left side panel... One was partially exposed so was a easy find...

They are apt to be about any place... Many of the larger components have a sheet on it for the vehicle it's destined to be installed... Mostly they are torn off and just trashed, but a few(especially in seat springs) remain with the car and probably will stay in place for the life of the car...

Having kept registry info for the 428 Cobra Jet Torinos I found in '68-'69 they were usually n the same place but varied by assembly plant(BTW ALL Cougs & Birds were built in Lorain)... The Atlanta cars usually had one in the back seat spring(often bottom and back)... The Lorain cars had one usually under the carpet, and Kansas City cars usually had one in the front seat springs...
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Post by: daminc on May 07, 2008, 11:36:52 PM
Pass. seat on mine
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Post by: Beau on May 07, 2008, 11:44:02 PM
Out of the 3 cars, I've never found any of mine.
And I've completely taken out the interiors from all 3, too.
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Post by: EricCoolCats on May 08, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
Sometimes on older cars (1960s-70s) the build sheet was placed on the top side of the gas tank. That's where it was on my brother's 1973 Trans Am. Now I've never heard of one being in that spot on our cars but it's another possible location. Otherwise it's also possible that it's under the carpeting somewhere. But in most instances the build sheet for these cars has been either on the underside of the passenger seat or behind the rear interior panel.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on May 08, 2008, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;217833
Sometimes on older cars (1960s-70s) the build sheet was placed on the top side of the gas tank. That's where it was on my brother's 1973 Trans Am. Now I've never heard of one being in that spot on our cars but it's another possible location.


Common location for a GM, yet to see any Ford product with one on top of the tank...
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Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on May 08, 2008, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;217778
Out of the 3 cars, I've never found any of mine.
And I've completely taken out the interiors from all 3, too.


x2

never seen one


my old 70 torino's was under the rear seat springs
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Post by: 88FoxBird on May 08, 2008, 10:32:53 AM
My blue 88 was under the pass. seat, well most of it was lol. The 87 only had about 1/8 of it left.
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Post by: Loaded87IROC on May 14, 2008, 11:00:12 PM
My 86 XR7 had it on top of the gas tank.
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Post by: jpc647 on May 14, 2008, 11:30:20 PM
I found both of mine, the 1988 and the 1987 under the passenger seat springs. They were both trashed, I waqs hoping to scan them into the computer to reprouce, but now some pieces are missing. Anyone have a build sheet in good condition they could scan into the comp?

john
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Post by: 87badbird2613 on May 15, 2008, 12:49:40 AM
i do  just give me like a day to find it  kinda busy ill scan it for ya!
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Post by: 5.0willgo on May 15, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
I found the one on the '86 under the passenger seat in shreds. The bits and pieces are now safely stored in a zip loc bag.
I'd love to find the one on the '88.
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Post by: silvercv2002 on May 15, 2008, 12:06:51 PM
Now-a-days we have to pull ALL the build sheets out of the vehicle.  Not sure why they want us to, but it is what it is...
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Post by: cougarXLS on May 15, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
Forgive my ignorance.... but what exactly is a build sheet?  What kind of information would one expect to find?
 
Someone once told me that there is no such thing as a stupid question... we'll see if this holds true :hick:
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Post by: silvercv2002 on May 15, 2008, 04:52:46 PM
It tells us what parts to use when the vehicle goes down the line.  Most of the parts are already sorted as to when it gets put on, but the sheets are there to help double-check..
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Post by: HAVI on May 15, 2008, 11:37:30 PM
Mine are found in various places around the yard..... mice!!
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Post by: cougarXLS on May 16, 2008, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: silvercv2002;219096
It tells us what parts to use when the vehicle goes down the line. Most of the parts are already sorted as to when it gets put on, but the sheets are there to help double-check..

So basically the build sheet is a prioritized to-do list for the workers on the assembly line?
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Post by: V8Demon on May 16, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
Passenger seat on the Black car.  Unreadable brown paper by hte time I got to taking it out.  The Mustang still has it's build sheet in place.  I shall have to remedy that.
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Post by: BCA on May 16, 2008, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: silvercv2002;219029
Now-a-days we have to pull ALL the build sheets out of the vehicle.  Not sure why they want us to, but it is what it is...


I would guess that it's because of the reason for this thread.
For the people that know what they are, and the collectors that want to find them it's like the Holy Grail of the factory paperwork to have.
So if "Joe car buyer" finds one in his, and "Bob car collector" doesn't, he may do anything he can to try and bug the factory to reproduce another one for him.
It's probably better to just get all of them out of the cars just to try and minimize any possible wierd scenarios that might arise later by leaving them in.

Speaking of build sheets:
A friend of mine that collect Mopars, owns a 1993 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T in a pretty rare color combo, red with red leather which makes it something like 1 of 5 cars built that way.
Anyway, at a Mopar show, he ran into the guy asking him about his car and it turns out this guy worked on the production line and he was the person who printed out the build sheets and stuck them in the car as they when down the line. At the time, the IROC R/T was a significant car and he figured someday a collector would be looking for the build sheet. So during his shift, when an IROC R/T came along, he printed out multiple copies of them and placed them in several different places throughout the car so that there would be a better chance of one or more of them surviving later on.
A few weeks later, my friend received a package in the mail from this guy that was a dot-matrix print out of all 1993 IROC R/T’s showing the production numbers, with a breakdown of all the options and how many cars were built with each one.

Now wouldn’t it be cool to find someone like that could provide that kind information for our cars?

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: build sheet ?
Post by: silvercv2002 on May 16, 2008, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: cougarXLS;219235
So basically the build sheet is a prioritized to-do list for the workers on the assembly line?
Basically.  Just tells us what parts go on that particular vehicle...
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Post by: Loaded87IROC on May 16, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
Here is a pic of mine from on top of the gas tank.  The bottom edge was not completley covered by the tank as got alot more damage.  The build sheet in my other 86 Cougar was under the passenger seat and was trashed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/IMG_0106.jpg)
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Post by: daminc on May 16, 2008, 05:06:36 PM
Here's a quick pic of mine under the pass. seat
It's mostly there.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/cougar%20build%20sheet/IMG_3581.jpg)
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 16, 2008, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: daminc;219298
Here's a quick pic of mine under the pass. seat
It's mostly there.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/cougar%20build%20sheet/IMG_3581.jpg)

That's pretty much how mine looks. I carefully pulled it out when I reupholstered the seats, and put it in a Ziploc. Some day I'll piece it back together, though it doesn't really apply to the car anymore (I've changed the whole suspension, brakes, rear end, interior type, interior colour, stereo system, window trim, and front clip)
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Post by: cougarXLS on May 17, 2008, 11:01:02 AM
You learn something new everyday.
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Post by: CoogarXR on September 14, 2009, 09:58:01 PM
I figured I would ressurect this old thread in celebration of finding my build sheet! I pulled the driver's seat out and pulled the carpet up to have a friend weld the floorpan, and there it was! Between the carpet and the floorpan.

I scanned it for anybody who has never seen one. Mine is actually pretty readable. The tape on the top is where it was taped to the floor.

http://www.midohiovideo.com/coogarxr/buildsheet.jpg

If that doesn't work, try this one:

http://midohiovideo.redirectme.net/coogarxr/buildsheet.jpg
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Post by: Masejoer on September 14, 2009, 10:31:38 PM
Linky no worky
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Post by: CoogarXR on September 14, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
Try it now, I added another link.
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Post by: Masejoer on September 14, 2009, 10:51:30 PM
That one's pretty  intact. I wish I have found, or find, mine if there is one.
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Post by: TheEskimo on September 15, 2009, 04:41:04 AM
Found mine on Sunday, or what is left of it. It was on top of the fuel tank, found it when I was replacing the fuel pump in the '85. Many years and miles were not kind to it, and not much remains. Going to try and brush off some of the dried mud next week and see whats there, but I don't think even half remains. Was still a cool find for me, I was happy all day.
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Post by: 87DailyDriver on September 15, 2009, 07:18:10 AM
Ok, thats it... I gotta look for mine! So, on top of the fuel tank or under the front seats right? I'll use a mirror and a flashlight for the hard to reach areas and hopefully(crossing fingers) I can find it somewhat intact. Although, with everything going at work it may be Sunday before I can spend time looking. However, if it's on top of the fuel tank... can you even get it with the fuel tank mounted in place?
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Post by: hwy73 on September 15, 2009, 08:21:50 AM
Found the build sheet for my car under the rear seat when it was brand new, been in the folder for the car's paperwork ever since.
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Post by: RoyLPita on September 15, 2009, 10:02:30 AM
I'll have to look for it when I get the '88 XR7 that I want.
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Post by: TheEskimo on September 15, 2009, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: 87DailyDriver;291289
However, if it's on top of the fuel tank... can you even get it with the fuel tank mounted in place?


Mine was a little more then halfway back on top of the tank, so I wouldn't have been able to. But my cars has a lot of miles driven in just about every weather you can think of, including down a lot of muddy roads(10% of city streets are paved here :hick:) It could have worked it's way back with the nasty stuff shoving it all those years, but I dunno.

Nice to see some of them made it into the cars interiors, and that they survived.