Just yesterday, I had my Stinger exhaust hung. Have a Hooker MaxFlow ler, Magnaflow high flow cat, and a DMH electric cutout.
I took the car down to Tyson at Performance Auto Fabrication in Finksburg Maryland. He did all of the cutting, hacking, welding, tucking, and everything to make the exhaust fit exactly how I wanted.
First off, the Stinger system fit like . The only thing he didn't modify was the downpipe. He hung the downpipe, then the intermediate pipe. Once he got it close, he chopped it for the cat. When he cut the pipe for the cat, he was able to get the pipe tucked as tight as he could, while keeping clearance around the transmission vibration damper on the tailshaft. From there, he welded the hangers onto the ler, and got it into position, and cut and welded the pipe from between the cat to the ler, keeping the ler exactly where it belongs. From there, the fun began. The tailpipe came no where near fitting with the ler tucked nicely. He spent more time on the tailpipe than the entire exhaust. He finally got it tucked exactly how I wanted it, and set up a new hanger and the turndown. From there, he hacked up the flowtech cutout and welded the cutout portion directly to the downpipe. The exhaust setup is tucked very well, and you cant even tell I have a tailpipe on the car.
All in all, I'd say that if you need some custom fabrication, or anything that requires a hint of creativity, take it down to Tyson, he does some great work.
Now onto the pictures:
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The tailpipe is actually tucked very high, and you can't see it at all unless you poke your head under the car.
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These two shots show it going over the axle. This is where the most time was spent making sure clearance was good. He had to chop the tailpipe all up, and use another 90* bend to get it all to clear.
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These two shots show the intermediate pipe, with the cat, and how much clearance there is.
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And these two are probably the coolest parts of the exhaust. He cut the flowtech cutout apart, and grafted it onto the downpipe, exactly where I wanted it.
All in all, I'm very happy with the exhaust. Surprisingly, it's also VERY quiet.
nice work
nice work shawn... I like it.
lets see a low side shot of the car... looks like you will really be able to see the cat though...
Looks like you need longer bolts on that cutout.
sweet set up!!
Do those clamps work as good as they are said to?
I have one of those band clamps on my car and a couple on my truck...
They're not bad. Definitely better than regular clamps. They will still leak a little bit though.
edit: It looks like a couple of those are "stepped" clamps...those ones kinda suck. I'm not fond of them, I had one and when I cranked it down there was a huge gap where it would have leaked.
Looks good now make a video of it and post it up soon.
Yes.
Shawn, I would call Stinger and maybe have him read this thread AND send him some pics. It may possibly get them to fix their issues for future customers. It may get you some money back for your troubles as well. If it wasn't what you expected then they should be gracious and professional enough to work something out with you.
My tailpipe sits up like that too. It's a Stinger one. I had to chop mine up, but it was more due to the way my ler is mounted than anything.
I have some of those stepped clamps, and they suck. Only one of the 2 or 3 I had worked properly, so I just tacked the pipes in place at the moment. Looking at them, the pipes can't have ANY offset or deflection for them to work. I need to get some other clamps.
Now do you get them from like summit, or did you go to a trucker place and grab some? Ive heard the ones sold from the trucker parts supply places work good.
Ill grab one in a little bit. Really, you have to get down low to see anything. It does hang lower than the frame rail, but what do you expect when you have a 3" diameter pipe in place of a 2.5".
Actually, the nuts provided protrude down into the cutout, and seat against a lip inside of the oval hole. It looks as if there isn't much thread engagement, but there is plenty.
Yes. I use them nearly every day being a truck mechanic. When torqued down properly, they do not leak. I've used them on rusty pipe and junk flex pipe and never had one leak.
There are two different styles. One that uses aluminum blocks where they clamp, and one that uses some goo. The ones with goo are junk.
I'm not concerned with getting money back at all. I think a good bit of it had to do with Tyson being a major perfectionist, and making it fit better than it was really intended. If Stinger had many of the overly complex bends to make it fit perfectly, it would drive the cost up.
I'll still contact him and give him the heads up. As of right now, I'm not very worried about it, considering everything is exactly how I want.
Mine wouldn't fit at all until Tyson chopped the living hell out of it. Stinger sets the ler up to sit at an angle, and Tyson straightened it, making the tail not even come close to fitting. It wouldn't come close because it hit the body, the upper control arm, and then wouldn't make it to the ler. He chopped pretty much the entire over-the-axle section up into pieces and pieced it back together with some other stuff to make it fit.
They're all the same. Most of the ones you buy from summit or jegs are called TorcTite made by Torca. Just make sure you get the ones with the aluminum blocks, and nuts and bolts, not the ones with goo.
These are the ones: http://www.torcausa.com/Torctite.htm
Mine have the AL blocks, and didn't work for poo.
Interesting, we use them all-day-every-day at work, and never have an issue.
Also, I went out to take a picture from the side, and you can hardly see the exhaust. I took a picture, and you can't even tell what is what under there. I didn't realize how well he tucked it.
I'd be interested in a dyno comparison of the exhaust.
My previous exhaust setup was a Stinger downpipe, intermediate pipe, and a Dynomax Ultraflow.
Between that exhaust, and this, it feels like I lost a significant amount of horsepower with the new setup, but gained a good deal of torque. I'm able to shift earlier without lugging, car gets up from a light with less throttle and clutch, and seems a bit more smooth.
No big deal on the horsepower loss, just flip a switch and I'm good to go!
Dude that is sharp. Nicely done again, Shawn.
Looks good. How loud is it with the cut out open?
I couldn't tell you really. I haven't had a chance to wire it up.
I will tell you that it's going to be very loud. It's probably about 2' away from the turbo.
Thanks for the heads up on the clamps!!
Have access to a decibel meter?
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Yeah, that cutout right there, pointing right at the ground. Its gonna be nauseating.
Well, I have the cutout wired up. I made sure that this is going to be a very safe wiring job, because the motor is only a few inches from the ground basically. I used a bosch 30amp relay and a fuse.
Anyways, with the cutout open, obviously its loud, but it isn't nearly as loud inside the car as you'd think. Obviously, it sounds like an angry John Deere, but the turbo spool is more than worth it.
In one of these cars, with all of the extra sound deadening they came with, it's very tolerable.
The only people who have those are the MVA. If I go to them, they'd give me a repair citation in a heartbeat.
I'm not too terribly surprised at your results...as you said the sound deadening. I guess these really DO have a lot. My mom yells at me CONSTANTLY, warning me that i'm drawing way too much attention to myself and that it's "terribly excessive" and if I'm just cruising along, no load, I actually don't hear anything above what I did stock up to about 35 maybe 40 mph. (its an O/R h pipe with flowmaster 40s).
Its great ya get to show off but not have your eardrums blown out while driving it :D :evilgrin:.
While the 40's and no cats is loud, with the cutout open, I have maybe 18" of exhaust with no ling. I think I'm a good bit louder ;)
Oh I'm sure of THAT! Just talking re: the deadener. I STILL haven't gotten a friend to drive it so I can hear it take off from the outside. Being in the car it honestly doesn't sound like a huge ruckus. Im NOT unhappy but it hardly seems totally obscene, so I wanna see what all this fuss about it being so excessive is.
She even said last week "What did you do? That got louder I swear it got louder." Im like "I haven't touched the exhaust in over a year." :hick:
I have access to one:shakeass:
Are you going to be at Carlisle? If so, bring it along. I'll have the TC there.
Zonda: Just before I had the exhaust put on my car, I had my girlfriend drive it around the parking lot, and it really is amazing how different it sounds. I suggest finding someone just to run it around the parking lot. You look at your own car a bit differently.
My father is scared to drive my car now :hick:
nice setup. I use the exact same band clamps for my test tube and cat and never had a leak. They work great!!
Frank M.