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Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
Alo all,
 
Does anybody have or know where I could find two fuel lines for Cougar X?
 
Specifically, I am looking for the flexible line connecting the sending unit to the metal delivery line running the length of the body.  The second line is the flexible line connecting the sending unit to the metal return line running the length of the body.
 
Anybody???
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: dw43935 on April 10, 2008, 02:50:10 PM
I've never had to mess with my T-Bird's fuel line's,but hopefully I can help you out here. A couple year's ago, I had a fuel leak in a Tempo, both ends of the line were different sizes. I went to every parts store within 50 miles with no luck. The line was a discontinued part. After a week of searching, I finally had to resort top making my own. I went to Lowe's and found a brass reducer in the plumbing dept. (1/4"-5/16" I think!) With that and 2 new pieces of high pressure fuel line and 4 small hose clamps, I was on the road again. I know it lasted at least 4 years, then the car was sold. Please pay close attention to what you are doing. A homemade fuel line isn't one of the safest repairs, but sometimes we have to do what must be done, so please note that this is only a suggestion.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: dw43935;213430
so please note that this is only a suggestion.

Hey all suggestions are appreciated!
 
 
Yeah, the problem I ran into as well was "discontinued line", I've been searching the net with no success as yet...
 
I know what you mean by being very careful, that's why I am back in this position.  I made a line, that is now leaking... so I drop the tank, I and now either need to fix the existing line, buy an OEM line or get very creative.
 
And on that note, plus it's warm out.... :) I am on my way to the garage to see what I can do.
 
However, I am still looking for OEM lines if at all possible...!
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: irv on April 10, 2008, 09:43:21 PM
have your dealer do a parts search.if the flexible lines are the
same as a mustang ppi has them on their site.look under the
engine section.--[perfomancepartsinc.com]
jim dingle's the owner and who you will talk to. tell him i
told you to call[he will probably then hang up on you].
there is a picture of the lines on the site. they also come
with the high volumefuel pump in the ford motorsport
catalog--irv toms
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 08:25:42 AM
That's a great site!  Thanks Irv!
 
I will compare the numbers with Ford's 'obsolete' part with the fuel lines on that site...
 
But even if the fuel lines don't work out, I did find the Ford HO plate!!!  :D
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: irv on April 11, 2008, 08:37:25 AM
if you have a part # or a basic # i could look it up for you.
irv
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 11, 2008, 09:25:32 AM
Ron Morris Performance sells the OEM line & fittings - see here -> http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rmp&Product_Code=9130&Category_Code=Fuel_Fittings%26Fuel_Line

(http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com/images/9191.jpg)
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: irv;213540
if you have a part # or a basic # i could look it up for you.
irv
Took a trip into Ford...
The Feed/Delivery Line: E5LY-9B286-A
The Return Line: E5LY-9C318-A
 
I have decided to rebuild by own custom lines using new fittings and lines for this round anyway :hick:
 
However, I will have to do this again in the future for my other cars and if, perchance, I can get pre-fabbed OEM-type lines, it would simplify things...
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 11, 2008, 02:48:37 PM
The OEM nylon in the link I posted is put into hot water and slid over the OEM duck bill fittings - I highly doubt you will find pre-fabbed lines. Anyway, your welcome for posting exactly what you were looking for :hick:
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
:hick: Oh well,
 
Maybe irv might surprise us! ;)
 
Cougar5.0, your links were very helpful.  Thank-you.  Infact, I have arrived at the solution... the nylon repair lines are what I purchased just today, and am waiting for the 'duck bill fittings' to arrive via NAPA tomorrow morning.
 
The missing link I had in all of this was the hot water.  That simplifies things greatly.
 
But hey, I would still be very curious in finding out if some aftermarket place sells the prefabbed Cougar lines...
 
:)
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 11, 2008, 04:48:17 PM
Glad you've got it figured anyway!
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 04:55:56 PM
That's what I love about these boards.... :)
 
People helping people with Cougars!! :drink:
 
Thank-you for helping me figure it out! :banana:
 
I still would like to know if there are aftermarket prefabs out there! :cougarsmily: :cougarsmily: :cougarsmily: :burnout:
 
:hick: ; I love these icons.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: irv on April 12, 2008, 09:40:18 AM
looks like the lines above are the way to go. good info
for all of us.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: irv on April 12, 2008, 11:37:10 AM
both parts are obsolete and my dealer ran the locator.no dealers
are sitting on either of them . green sales and vintage parts
dont have them either. sorry.--irv toms
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 12, 2008, 03:22:35 PM
Thank-you for looking anyway Irv!
 
So, I have my nylon (Type 12) repair lines, and have boiled a pot of water.
The diameter of the nylon line is 5/16. I am trying to connect the 'duck-bill' to the line. I have tried heating the line, but for the life of me I cannot get the line over the barbed connector.
 
I have tried heat, like propane, my lighter, etc, but it just melts or destroys the nylon and as a result, won't sit properly.
 
Am I missing something? Or is it possible my boiled water isn't hot enough?? Doesn't water boil at 100 degrees C?
 
Any sugesstions would be greatly appreciated.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: 86T-bird on April 12, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Freeze the fitting, boil the line, and use bit of KY lube?

Having a tube of KY in the garage might look strange, but it works great for stuff like this!
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 12, 2008, 04:11:45 PM
I'll go stick the fitting into the freezer right now.
 
About how long *ideally* should the line be boiled?
I had tried pastime to boil the line in water, and was at it for 15-20mins with no success.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: vinnietbird on April 12, 2008, 04:39:56 PM
I think water boils somewhere around 212 degrees or so.100 degrees is nice bath water.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 12, 2008, 05:18:27 PM
Quote from: cougarXLS;213698
Doesn't water boil at 100 degrees C?

LOL Vinnie.... that's what my C was for.  You're right.... for those south of the border... I will have to remember to convert ;)
 
100 degrees Celsius = 212 degrees Fahrenheit
 
But more to my question... is that enough?  And for what duration?
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: daminc on April 12, 2008, 05:25:34 PM
lol
You guys and your metric system
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 12, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: daminc;213712
lol You guys and your metric system

Yeah, I never did figure everything out... I am 6' 1", I drive at 60-70MPH on the freeway (I can't afford to get caught! Darn police...), it's currenty -2degrees C outside, and I weigh 68 kilograms.
 
My parents speak in imperial and I can barely speak metric. LOL
 
BUT!!! does anyone know how long I should be keeping a Nylon Fuel Repair Line (Type 12) submerged within the boiling water pot??
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: irv on April 12, 2008, 06:24:48 PM
if the water doesnt a heat gun should do the trick. heat
without a flame. just my 2cents[not metric] worth.
--irv toms
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 12, 2008, 06:32:34 PM
A heat gun... as in a glue gun? soldering gun? something else?
 
Your patience is appreciated... I'm new at this :)
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougar1car on April 12, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
I think they mean something like this... Just a quick search didnt look for best priced one.

http://www.uline.com/Browse_Listing_2451.asp?desc=Industrial
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 12, 2008, 11:37:51 PM
This is a quote from a post I read on the Corral

Quote
Like said before put them in real hot water when I did mine I took a big pot put it on the stove got it hot not bolling but hot took some gloves and the line slid right on and then I threw it in the freezer and boom it was done took like five minutes and worked great for the last 15ooo miles but to each his own.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 13, 2008, 12:19:28 PM
So I guess it should work.
 
I will try again.
Title: OEM Fuel Lines
Post by: cougarXLS on April 15, 2008, 11:08:50 AM
Well, I finally managed to merge the nylon with the plastic connectors, and guess what!
 
I made one mistake to many, and the line wound up to short :evilgrin: !
 
So, I buy some more nylon line... I finally manage to get it!
 
Cougar X is going down the road again!!!
 
As this thread is in the Marketplace and not technical support, there is method in my madness.... or madness to my method...
 
I would still be curious if anyone has any OEM fuel lines.
 
 
Thanks everybody for your help!
 
Go :cougarsmily: Go!