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Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 09, 2008, 11:29:11 AM
Hello all,
I've been googling/mapquesting driving directions from Ottawa to Youngstown, and have a question or two for you Americans, or those Canadians that regularly drive in the US.
In my driving directions, the list refers to some routes which are partial toll roads (Merge onto HWY-137 S , Partial toll road, Entering United States (New York)). What is partial toll road? I mean, I've heard of toll roads, but what is a partial and how does it work??
CougarXLS
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: JeremyB on April 09, 2008, 11:36:17 AM
A partial toll road designation means part of your route on that road is toll, part is not.
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 09, 2008, 11:38:39 AM
So, pretend I am driving down this partial toll road... what charges the toll? Does it depend what lane I am in? Or am I going to have to pay or find an alternative route?
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: JeremyB on April 09, 2008, 11:49:18 AM
It is either entirely a toll road or entirely not. There aren't free lanes and toll lanes concurrently in the same direction Made up example:
Mile Marker 0 to 100 is a toll road on I-666 Mile Marker 100 to 150 is free on I-666
If you plot a route that goes from mile marker 0 to 150, Google will give you the "partial toll road" description. If you plot a route from mile marker 125 to 150, you won't get any toll road descriptor. If you plot a route from 0 to 50 Google will give you "toll road" descriptor.
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 09, 2008, 08:52:49 PM
Okay.... I wish I knew how to program my google search to avoid tolls or partial toll roads....
Anyway, making good time is important for my back.... assume I would pay these toll fees....
Is a picture of my license taken and a bill sent? How does it work in the USA?
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: daminc on April 09, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
you have to pay the tolls, unless you have a EZ-pass. but I'm assuming you don't, if your asking
What bridge are you coming over?
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 11:13:50 AM
My Google Route:
1. Head southeast on CR-44/Prescott St toward Reuben St Continue to follow CR-44 4.4 km 4 mins 2. Turn left to merge onto HWY-416 S 26.4 km 17 mins 3. Take the exit onto HWY-401 W/MacDonald-Cartier Fwy toward Kingston 60.9 km 37 mins
4. Take exit 661 toward I-81/Bridge to U.S.A/Hill Island 1.4 km 4 mins
5. Merge onto HWY-137 S Partial toll road
Entering United States (New York)
3.9 km 5 mins
6. Continue on I-81 S 153 km 1 hour 30 mins
7. Take exit 25A to merge onto I-90 W
Partial toll road Passing through Pennsylvania Entering Ohio 441 km 4 hours 18 mins
8. Take exit 228 to merge onto OH-11 S toward Youngstown 78.7 km 46 mins 9. Take the I-80 E exit toward New York 0.7 km 10. Continue straight onto OH-711 S 4.6 km 3 mins
11. Take the exit onto I-680 S 5.1 km 4 mins
12. Take exit 6B to merge onto Market St toward Downtown
Points 5 and 7 are the partial toll roads...
How do I pay the toll? Is there an alternative route that wouldn't add too much more time but would avoid the toll?
How could I configure google to give me directions less the toll routes... I know I can 'avoid highways' with google, but that adds soo much time. Directions are generic... from Kemptville to Youngstown.
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: daminc on April 10, 2008, 12:22:30 PM
I see where your coming from. (mapquested it) There's really no way to go through NY quickly without going through tolls. There's 2 sections on the 90 that you have to pay tolls on, that I know about
Your really out there.
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: JeremyB on April 10, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
The toll to cross over the Thousand Islands bridge (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_Islands_Bridge") into the US is $2.50 (http://"http://www.tibridge.com/rate%20sheet.pdf"). There will be a toll plaza (http://"http://www.eriding.net/media/photos/design_tech/040629_cbrown_mp_dt_p1001438_toll_plaza.jpg") several lanes where you can pay the toll. All accept cash/coins, some accept credit cards.
The second toll road is I-90 (http://"http://www.nysthruway.gov/maps/index.html") from Syracuse to just shy of Erie. Rates are here (http://"http://www.nysthruway.gov/tolls/calc/findclass/classtree.cgi"). (You're going from exit 36 to 61). You also pay with cash (someone local on the board can tell you if they take credit) at the toll plazas on I-90. Once on the toll portion of I-90, you can only stop (http://"http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=TV_Shows&movie=South_Park/Episode_217_Gnomes"e=217_vicegrip.txt&file=217_vicegrip.mp3") at travel plazas (http://"http://www.nysthruway.gov/travelplazas/index.html"). They have gas, food, and bathrooms.
For enlightned alternative route making, buy an atlas. They have all toll roads marked in green. The Rand McNally website (http://"http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/home.jsp?cmty=0") marks toll roads on their internet maps, but it's a bit unwieldy.
Title: The Tolls
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: daminc;213411
There's really no way to go through NY quickly without going through tolls. There's 2 sections on the 90 that you have to pay tolls on, that I know about
Okay... that's fine I guess... I am driving in the USA for the first time in my life. You by chance know the current toll prices?
Quote
Your really out there.
Not really, I live for the drive. :D
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 10, 2008, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: cougarXLS;213425
You by chance know the current toll prices?
Click the hot-links in his post - he did all the work for you!
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 02:42:54 PM
Quote from: Cougar5.0;213426
He did all the work for you!
Thanks JeremyB!
Cougar5.0 --> take a look at the times of those posts. I didn't actually see JeremyB's response before I posted my question.
Thanks everyone!!
:)
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 10, 2008, 02:44:36 PM
That's no excuse - are your psychic abilities broken or something?
:hick:
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 07:16:21 PM
LOL..... :) Just my typing abilities!
Title: Watcha Talkin' Aboot eh??
Post by: cougarXLS on April 10, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
You know, I think we should sticky these two threads.... CJ Routes (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=18910") Passports? (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=18826") at least for CatJam 2008!
For us :canada: 's, it may be helpful :).
Again, thanks to JeremyB, EricCoolCats, CougarXLS:D !!!!!!!
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: JadeCat95 on April 11, 2008, 09:05:47 AM
Quote from: cougarXLS;213402
My Google Route:
1. Head southeast on CR-44/Prescott St toward Reuben St Continue to follow CR-44 4.4 km 4 mins 2. Turn left to merge onto HWY-416 S 26.4 km 17 mins 3. Take the exit onto HWY-401 W/MacDonald-Cartier Fwy toward Kingston 60.9 km 37 mins
4. Take exit 661 toward I-81/Bridge to U.S.A/Hill Island 1.4 km 4 mins
5. Merge onto HWY-137 S Partial toll road
Entering United States (New York)
3.9 km 5 mins
6. Continue on I-81 S 153 km 1 hour 30 mins
7. Take exit 25A to merge onto I-90 W
Partial toll road Passing through Pennsylvania Entering Ohio 441 km 4 hours 18 mins
8. Take exit 228 to merge onto OH-11 S toward Youngstown 78.7 km 46 mins 9. Take the I-80 E exit toward New York 0.7 km 10. Continue straight onto OH-711 S 4.6 km 3 mins
11. Take the exit onto I-680 S 5.1 km 4 mins
12. Take exit 6B to merge onto Market St toward Downtown
Points 5 and 7 are the partial toll roads...
How do I pay the toll? Is there an alternative route that wouldn't add too much more time but would avoid the toll?
How could I configure google to give me directions less the toll routes... I know I can 'avoid highways' with google, but that adds soo much time. Directions are generic... from Kemptville to Youngstown.
Couple of things to consider here, cougarXLS.
First, on Google maps you can zoom in on the portions that are toll roads and click and drag that route to another route that isn't a toll road. It will redo your entire route using the new route you asked for. It looks like you'll have to do that twice.
Second, you asked for directions into Youngstown. The actual location of the Red Roof Inn we meet at is a suburb of Y-town called Boardman (or Poland actually). Your directions take you to downtown Y-town, when you actually want to go further south down I-680.
Here's the address for RRI. Use this as your destination address;
1051 Tiffany South Poland, OH 44514
I believe it's like exit 11A, but it's the exit for US-224.
Hope this helps.
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 12:39:35 PM
Thanks Kevin...
Now that I have a better idea of the route I may change it.. but I will probably just pay the tolls, they seem reasonable.
By the way Kevin, you got a great name there! :hick:
Kevin
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: baxo on April 11, 2008, 03:32:51 PM
If you "live for the drive", why don't you just take a bit longer and go around thelake on the canadian side and cross through where I cross at the Fort Erie / Buffalo .. then all you have to worry about is a $2.67 toll :D
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 11, 2008, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: cougarXLS;213581
Now that I have a better idea of the route I may change it.. but I will probably just pay the tolls, they seem reasonable.
Quote from: baxo;213603
If you "live for the drive", why don't you just take a bit longer and go around thelake on the canadian side and cross through where I cross at the Fort Erie / Buffalo .. then all you have to worry about is a $2.67 toll :D
Truth be told, I haven't decided yet... I am just gathering information, asking questions, getting excited... :)
What is it... only 90 days until CatJam!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: mikkelsxr7 on April 13, 2008, 02:12:59 PM
It would be quite nice to have a canadian convoy heading to CJ :)
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: baxo on April 15, 2008, 03:32:06 PM
Information is for Wusses, just hit the road and let the road take you the way it wants to. :D
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: daminc on April 15, 2008, 03:38:26 PM
If you cross through buffalo/ niagara falls, I may be able to tag along the convoy
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 16, 2008, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: daminc;214119
If you cross through buffalo/ niagara falls, I may be able to tag along the convoy
We still might go that way.... haven't really decided on a route yet :)
When SaltNPepper and myself choose our route, and when time gets a little closer so people will have a better idea of their respective schedules, we will start a thread.... and maybe just set up a mini-caravan along the route!
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: DVP on April 20, 2008, 03:56:38 PM
Anyone coming from the midwest though STL? Or jumpin on 70 in between here and youngstown
Title: CJ Routes
Post by: cougarXLS on April 21, 2008, 07:27:01 PM
I am preparing my final drive plan now... I will still need to discuss this with my travel companion, my sister, aka SaltNPepper.... once that happens, I will post the final plans here on this forum.
Once we post our route, any Canadians or Americans, that see a potential to join us en route to CatJam will be more than welcome.
Once our route is planned... I will post our route in a new thread, asking anyone along our route to join us.
BUT!!! If someone beats me to the punch, feel free to list your route and maybe we'll alter ours to join yours!!
Please expect an update on this thread within the next 24-48 hours*
*Edit: Expect another 12-24 hours... SaltNPepper is working, won't see her for a while.
**Edit: I will start a new thread with our route (SaltNPepper and myself). It will be online by the end of Tomorrow (Apr 25/2008). Any Canadians and Americans wishing to join us or rendevouz with us, will be more than welcome. Maybe a Caravan all the way to Youngstown!!!
***********EDIT!!!: I have posted the thread The Ultimate Ontario Route! (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?p=215744"). Feel free to join us.