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Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 08, 2008, 10:00:27 PM
Wh all has done it? i have a seat of red sport seats i want to dye black. what should i use? how expensive is it to do?

Is there any way to dye the vinyl backs?
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: CougrrrFiveO on April 08, 2008, 10:11:53 PM
I was just looking in to doing the same thing. Haven't done a lot of research yet, but I did find some stuff in the Eastwood catalog that is basically spraypaint for leather. It says it's meant to be used on seats. I'm just worried about it rubbing off onto clothing, especially in warm weather. I'm sure preparation is a huge part of it working right. I have to do a lot more reading on the subject.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Quietleaf on April 08, 2008, 10:26:34 PM
I'm supposed to be meeting with someone tomorrow night who does it for Springfield Ford. Will let you all know what I find out. So far he said that dying them the same color, as long as they aren't cracked, would run in the $80-$125 range. He also said that colors can be changed, though this seems strange to me. Will see what I can learn.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Masejoer on April 09, 2008, 12:48:50 AM
I'm curious what you find out. I would expect a certain dye would stay in as thats what needs to be done in the first place to get different colors. I'd like to dye all 4 seat pieces black for how to make them look semi-decent until I can do something/anything about the worn/dirty upholstery.

Either way, for $100+, I'd rather just put that money towards a fund for getting the things reupholstered.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Dansbirds on April 09, 2008, 06:33:39 AM
When I worked for Mercedes Benz we tried it a couple times. Never changed color though, anyways it looked pretty decent when done. But it didnt last and it did come off on the customer on her clothes. I would imagine Black would be a bit tricky if that happened
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: CougrrrFiveO on April 09, 2008, 08:34:35 AM
Yeah, if it costs over $100 I would definitely put that towards new leather. I'm just looking for something cheap, quick, and good enough to last for 6-8 months. Here's the Eastwood product I mentioned earlier.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=14623&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=400&iSubCat=409&iProductID=14623 (http://"http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=14623&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=400&iSubCat=409&iProductID=14623")
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on April 09, 2008, 08:36:11 AM
I dyed the porno red seats in my car a few years ago and it came out great. and lasted for years. I didn't change colour though, I just dyed 'em because they were faded. I used a Dupont spray-on Ricer Dye.

I'm gonna be doing the same thing with my dark blue TC seats shortly, but this time I'm changing the colour to black.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: vinnietbird on April 09, 2008, 09:11:39 AM
hey Chicken,let me know how that works and what product you use.I'm thinking of doing the same thing to my Raven seats.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: 32VFoxBird on April 09, 2008, 11:18:46 AM
i used the duplicolor stuff you can get at auto parts store. this is the before pic. ill get an after pic later. i dyed them black. they turned out really good.

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showpost.php?p=184730&postcount=193
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: vinnietbird on April 09, 2008, 12:57:12 PM
How does it work on cloth seats?
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 09, 2008, 01:00:10 PM
I'm not too worried about the vinyl back. If worse comes to worse ill have my Grams make new backs.

they are cloth seats be the way. guess it would be the same as carpet? Just don't want my clothes black too... and the girl would flip too (think i would laugh on that one though)
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: 32VFoxBird on April 09, 2008, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;213290
How does it work on cloth seats?


looks/feels like shiznit
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 10, 2008, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;213329
looks/feels like shiznit


So does anyone know of a product good for cloth seats? that is what I am really looking for?
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: CatCarMan2012 on April 10, 2008, 05:09:31 PM
I looked into this once.  The only thing that looks remotely promising is
http://www.fabricspraypaint.com/Default.asp?Folder=156&Name=_Upholstery_Fabric_Spray_Paint

I thought about taking my seat fabric off and dying it black in a tub with contemporary fabric dye.

-dz
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Quietleaf on April 10, 2008, 09:02:19 PM
What the guy told me is that it's a multi-step process:
- Treat the leather with something that opens up the pores
- Treat the leather that makes the dye adhere better to the surface
- Where changing colors, mask the area with tape and use a heat gun to make the tape expand into the seam
- Dye the leather
- Treat the surface (I think, not sure if he mentioned this or not).

I'm going to give it a go. If it doesn't work out okay I can still get new leather.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 11, 2008, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: danzajax;213452
I thought about taking my seat fabric off and dying it black in a tub with contemporary fabric dye.

-dz


I would dye it that way. If Im going to make new backs anyways then Ill have them off anyways. I just dont know anything about the whole dying process or the products and different ways to do it. all i knew was there was a spary can version that seemed easy.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: vinnietbird on April 11, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
I'll just swap seats.No biggie.I can sell the raven stuff after the swap.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 11, 2008, 06:58:52 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;213613
I'll just swap seats.No biggie.I can sell the raven stuff after the swap.


wish i could say that...
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 13, 2008, 01:10:31 PM
OK so my girls Mom told me about this stuff called Rit. Is fabric dye that they sell at walmart. Its like 1.50 a ox or something. each little box is suppose to do the about one pair of jeans so i figure i would use about 6- 8 boxes per seat. She said you just throw it in th washer but i think ill try it by hand and see haow hat works then maybe throw it in the washer with somemore to cover anything i might have missed. So about $15 a seat to dye isnt bad i dont think. We'll see.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Kitz Kat on April 27, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
I'm curious,any update on this?
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on April 27, 2008, 04:41:11 PM
No. Im suck on removing the knee rest bars so i can get the bottom covers off. I am going to try the headrest here soon.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: vinnietbird on April 27, 2008, 05:06:04 PM
Yes,updates and before and after pics if possible.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: jcassity on May 01, 2008, 08:52:09 AM
My brother in law used primer duplicolor on his cloth seats and they looked good / felt like .  They ended up feeling very rough but in many of our cases, looks is what counts.

for cloth seats,,,,,here is what i have pondered doing when i need to.

use a spray bottle with water to dampen surface only
have another spray bottle with die mix ready.
after surface is damp, spray on the die mix evenly
let dry

for carpets, the same process.

For interiior plastic parts, duplicolor
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on May 01, 2008, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: jcassity;216624
My brother in law used primer duplicolor on his cloth seats and they looked good / felt like .  They ended up feeling very rough but in many of our cases, looks is what counts.

for cloth seats,,,,,here is what i have pondered doing when i need to.

use a spray bottle with water to dampen surface only
have another spray bottle with die mix ready.
after surface is damp, spray on the die mix evenly
let dry

for carpets, the same process.

For interiior plastic parts, duplicolor


What about pulling the knee rest? that is what I'm stuck at right now
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: cougrrr302 on May 01, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
Sorry to hear about your seats....OHHH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COLOR DYE! lol.

I had mine done professionally...Look great. I would think just like jcassity said, a spray bottle and some color dye would do the trick.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on May 03, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: cougrrr302;216681
Sorry to hear about your seats....OHHH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COLOR DYE! lol.

I had mine done professionally...Look great. I would think just like jcassity said, a spray bottle and some color dye would do the trick.


I would try that but I already pulled the covers. I just cant get the bottom off because the pull out knee rest thing is in the way. I am afraid to try and pull it (i have a bad habit of breaking stuff when i;m figuring out how it works) I was hoping someone knew how to do it.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: jcassity on May 03, 2008, 09:39:50 PM
you talking about the underside of the forward part of the seat?

I had a look at that one day a long while ago feeling around and decided,,,oh hell no,, f that.  theres one long clip along the forward edge of the seat cloth that holds to the interior metal angle iron.  from there , there is a bunch of long wire clips / springs and .  I discovered all this when i pulled my seats to presure wash them.  Took a  long time to dry,, heavy mothers to.  Talk about a candidate for a weight loss program!!
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: 32VFoxBird on June 05, 2008, 11:53:31 PM
i found a couple pics of my seats...
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on June 09, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
dye.... FAILURE!

I tried it on  one of the head rest and it dyed the inside really nice, outside is still red!

There is powder and liquid an i bought both, used the powder on this one in the washing machine like directed so guess thats out.

Now I am going to use the spray idea. I put a drop a piece and it covered it pretty good even after i rubbed it around and washed it off.

To think i could have left the seats together for the most part
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on June 12, 2008, 02:04:18 AM
Update- spray= FAILURE

not giving up yet
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 12, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: cougar86_89;223188
Update- spray= FAILURE
 
not giving up yet

I tried the spray stuff to on a spare seat,wasn't impressed.
I'm starting to like red.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: DVP on June 13, 2008, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: kitzdnm;223269
I tried the spray stuff to on a spare seat,wasn't impressed.
I'm starting to like red.


This was the same dye only in a spary bottle.
Title: Dying seats?
Post by: Old_Paint on June 14, 2008, 11:24:01 AM
Most dyes are intended for natural fabric (cotton, hemp, wool), and won't adhere to synthetics unless they're VERY porous.  The fabric in our cars is little more than extruded nylon or rayon or a host of other plastic products.  Neither is porous, and NEITHER accept dyes well.  We're sorta stuck with one of two options.  A.)Replace the seats with something we like.  B.)Reupholster.
 
I'm going with Plan B when I get the outside finished, and possibly add lumbar supports if I can find a kit to build them into the seats.  I really like the one in the bench seat of my F-150, except it leaks down over time.  No biggie, though, just push the button, and it's pumped back up.  Either that, or just put a permanent one in by adding foam.