I found some Red top Injectors at the junkyard. They are identical to Bosch units but the manufacture is Siemens. There is only one number and that is 4663376.
what were they in???
Red tops were used in the '89-'94 super Coupes... Those are high impedance 30lb units... The '95-'96 got the dark blue 36lb units...
Think I'm correct on the years... Different OEM applications are various colors... Had some purple Chrysler ones at one time..
3.3l Dodge intrepid. I've been searching the net for an hour now to no avail.
89-93 got the 30lb and 94-95 got the 36lb. No 96 SC
Here they are. Got the 19lb units today and the others today too.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/CougarSE/IMAGE_042.jpg)
are you building a v-12 with an extra bank of injectors?
Somehow I thought I was screwin' up...
Unless they're from a high output engine I doubt they are more than 15/16lb inj... Also mfgrs used different fuel pressures, so can be difficult to compare...
Most Mopar applications use 43 PSI. Some use 55 PSI.
Paul I have been waiting for you to come in here! Now what size are these :hick:
I can't find any info on them yet.....Not even the great Stan Weiss has info. Only that they also came in the 2.0 liter 4 cyl. motor in the Eagle Talon.
http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tableifc.htm
**EDIT** Found some cross reference #'s here: http://www.fuelinjectorwhse.com/injectors.php?id=MP1002
I'll keep diggin'
Yeah I found that site earlier. I'm at a loss here.
Rig up a injector stand, test the flow...
Take a old fuel rail with pressure regulator, and cut off all but one opening... Then plug the open tubing, connect it to a fuel pump and start sprayin'... AHHH if it were only that easy... BUT if you use approx 8v on the injector, it will fire and not over heat the coil(assuming it's a 14 ohm coil)... You're gonna have to figure out how to hold the injector in the fuel rail...
Spray some kerosene(don't use gas) in a measuring container, after 10 min check the contents... Be a good idea to verify you setup with a known injector first... I'd do this away from any buildings you'd like to keep...
For injectors you don't really care about the test could be done with water pressure(most areas have 30-40 psi)... I washed out a set with water that were clogged with orange soda(I did hit them with WD40 after the water)... Worked fine when reinstalled...
I could do that. I think i have a 2.3 fuel rail that I could butcher down at the farm even. I could compare it too 14lb, 19lb and 24lb units. I already measured them and they are high impedance units.
without even looking, i can assure you that my past experience working with this company and thier products will tell you these injectors are of an emissions improvement capacity. This all could be solved by just calling Siemens. Your just going to have to speak to an applications engineer or a sales engineer. Thats where i would start for a spec sheet.
Im just guessing but there probably isnt much specail about them other than atomization characteristics for fuel reduction. While your at it, since it does have thier name on it, search the PTO for any new patents.
your not going to burn up the internal coil keeping power on the injector. I have energized injectors to clean them to and they really dont get too warm at all. While in use, the injectors are constantly energized / de-energized with an average of being continuously on doing the math.
the fluid you push through keeps the coil cool so you should be fine.
I did the same with a stock fuel pump vs a SC fuel pump to compare flow rates over identical time frames.
I'm wondering if these are off of a Flex Fuel vehicle. I didn't take the time to look at the junkyard but I know Chrysler had some early FF vehicles. I've read some other junkyard scrounging threads on other forums and they all point fingers at FFV's to find higher flow injectors.
This should be an electrical tech thread. If it were anyone else, i would'nt mind but since your first on board to bust out the big guns all the time,, I figure its karma.
besides, "someone would have said it anyway so im first":hick: :D
i found some info on those injectors while trolling through the voith-siemens and the siemens site. Id just call them.
I put my shiznit wherever I want it ;)
Nope.
THAT Part # is 4591085....
Still hunting.;)
I found THIS (http://"http://www.fuelinjector.citymaker.com/page/page/4782443.htm") page. Of course it has just about every flow rate but the one you're looking for.