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General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: Thor Power on February 25, 2008, 12:33:48 PM

Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 25, 2008, 12:33:48 PM
Just a general question. Has anyone, or better yet, how far has anyone taken their T-Bird in rebuilding the whole car. I think we have a unibody, so I have taken everything off the car except the doors and main body. Has anyone taken the body, or shell off the frame? Would it be necessary?

Oh yea, I have a 1988 T-Bird and the body is in above average condition.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: CougarSE on February 25, 2008, 12:46:45 PM
Yes actually there is a guy on here who went so far to put his car on a rotisserie.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Beau on February 25, 2008, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;206183
Yes actually there is a guy on here who went so far to put his car on a rotisserie.

But he didn't exactly..."restore"... his. ;)

But still, would be a great help.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 25, 2008, 01:49:01 PM
I had just about everything off:

(http://www.coolcats.net/eric/86convertible/images/2001_conv01.jpg)

(http://www.coolcats.net/eric/86convertible/images/2001_conv02.jpg)

Those photos were taken before door and fender and hood removal. We had to get the paint scheme taped off and the doors lined up first (new pins and bushings). The painter did have a rotisserie but there was another car already on it so we had to do things the hard way (plus it would have been too heavy for it anyway). The drivetrain remained, though, so I guess it wasn't a true strip-down restoration at that time; however, the drivetrain parts did previously get changed. Actually...the only original, untouched part on the entire car is the windshield. ;)

A full restoration is something that has to be carefully weighed with these cars. A majority of the time, all that's needed is exterior work (rust hole patches, etc.) and new paint. Interior work can all be redone in one form or another. Ditto for engine/trans/rear end work, and suspension. The only reason you'd really need to put the car on a rotisserie is to patch floorpans from the underside, or rustproof/paint. I guess it just depends on where you live and how bad your floorpans are. In my experience, most of my cars have been rock solid in those areas.

The same guy that painted my car is now working on my brother's 1973 Trans Am. They custom built a rotisserie for it; got to see the car painted the other night. The entire car got media blasted first. They had multiple floor pan patches, plus a new trunk pan. So in that case, yeah, working on the underside via a rotisserie was a godsend. But you have to remember, there's nothing in the car so it's fairly light. Once you have a drivetrain installed then the car gets so heavy that you can't use a rotisserie. It's only made for rotating a shell of a car.

For the record, our cars are unibody...there is no subframe to unbolt. My bro's T/A has a front subframe that we had to move the other night with the newly assembled suspension, brakes and steering components. That wasn't fun. It's kind of cool the way his car comes apart like that, but I've always felt that it was at the sacrifice of rigidity. Our cars have MUCH less cowl shake and front end jounce in that respect, because everything is welded together and not just bolted on.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Chuck W on February 25, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Pretty much everything on the '83 has been "restored" at some point, just not all at once.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: BCA on February 25, 2008, 04:12:42 PM
Currently my car is pretty well disassembled. The engine & transmission are out of the car, and the interior is gutted. When Mother Nature decides to get back into the 50° range and higher I will start putting the interior back together.
Then the front clip will be coming off to get the engine compartment painted and get that all put back together.
While swapping out the 7.5 for an 8.8 disc brake rear; I dropped the gas tank and thoroughly cleaned and detailed it and the undercarriage . A rotisserie would have come in very handy at that time.  :punchballs:
Had the entire car re-painted and all of the body side moldings, bushings, nameplates, and several interior parts that wear with use (door lock buttons, console plates, shift , etc.) were re-placed with new ones. All replacement items used were NOS Ford pieces. 
Hopefully it will be whole again this summer.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: daminc on February 25, 2008, 04:21:49 PM
I've taken a few things off myself. the only thing that will be original when I'm done, is going to be the roof and trunk lid and of course structural stuff. (most)
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: 1BadBird on February 25, 2008, 05:56:56 PM
Mine is pretty well gutted as well. I would call it a Resto-Mod instead of a full restoration though.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: daminc on February 25, 2008, 06:02:10 PM
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Just a general question. Has anyone, or better yet, how far has anyone taken their T-Bird in rebuilding the whole car. I think we have a unibody, so I have taken everything off the car except the doors and main body. Has anyone taken the body, or shell off the frame? Would it be necessary?

Oh yea, I have a 1988 T-Bird and the body is in above average condition.

What are you restoring or repairing?
Got any pics
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 25, 2008, 06:59:37 PM
Sorry about that, let me show you the pictures of before and now during....Thanks for the reply. I think I'll go for the Resto-Mod!!
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 25, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
Oh yea, I'm kinda of new....where's the thread for putting pictures in here?
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 25, 2008, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Thor Power;206180
Has anyone taken the body, or shell off the frame? Would it be necessary?

Oh yea, I have a 1988 T-Bird and the body is in above average condition.

Ain't possible on a unibody structure such as these cars ,there is NO frame... Now if you want to use a torch...
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: daminc on February 25, 2008, 08:16:24 PM
couldn't imagine drilling out all those spot welds to remove 4 small pieces of subframe.
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Put the pics in the post. Do you have a picture storage host like photobucket or something like that?
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 26, 2008, 10:42:01 AM
Click or cut and paste link. Photobucket password is thunderbird

http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n126/thorpower/?action=guestlogin

First set of pictures are of Thor in 2006. The engine removal and start of my resto-mods are in Feb 2008

Let me know if that worked
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: xjeffs on February 26, 2008, 11:42:24 AM
It worked.  Looks nice.  5.0 TC conversion?
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 26, 2008, 07:04:51 PM
Actually it's the 5.0 sport model, but I changed the exterior to match the TC's
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: 5.8fastcat on February 26, 2008, 11:03:06 PM
Check out this thread.

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=11024&page=3
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Thor Power on February 27, 2008, 09:39:29 AM
Impressive! I think I better stick with resto-mod and take my car down to removing front end body parts, rear end body part and STOP!
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: daminc on February 27, 2008, 06:34:58 PM
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Impressive! I think I better stick with resto-mod and take my car down to removing front end body parts, rear end body part and STOP!

Its not that bad.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Vbelisle on February 27, 2008, 06:58:24 PM
I like those headlight covers car looks good, good luck with your project
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: tc² on February 27, 2008, 11:28:52 PM
My car's been torn down pretty low.

[Not by me]

Previous owner installed new (or  close to new) almost everything.

Fenders, bumper cover, shocks, struts, springs, tie rod ends, ball joints, valvetrain, transmission, turbo, radiator, fans, fuel system, etc.  Anything he couldn't find new, he replaced with the best parts he could find.  He kept all the reciepts.  When I added them up it came out to be over 9k.
Title: Full Restoration?
Post by: Chris1987LX on March 02, 2008, 09:32:09 AM
Lots of fantastic work everyone is doing.

I'd love to get a hold of new gaskets for the quarter windows, the trim for around the back window, the body side moulding, and some NOS Bird emblems.

I can't have the car repainted until I have these items.

Chris