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Title: Where would you stuff a 2.3T?
Post by: oldraven on February 20, 2008, 10:50:16 AM
What do you guys think? I have a spare 2.3Turbo and T5. I know I could get $1500 for the TC and Supertruck together.

(braces for impact)

http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-under-5K-datsun-roadster-convertible-1968-W0QQAdIdZ38864541

(http://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i5/04/k/000/79/23/eab4_20.JPG?set_id=1C4000)

datsun roadster convertible 1968

willing to trade for a camero,firbird, trans-am or sell outright for 1500.00$car runs good no holes but needs a paint job and there is a hole in the ler.
thanks



Yeah, it'll never happen, but it's fun to imagine.
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Post by: Blackout on February 20, 2008, 04:59:14 PM
DO IT!  that would simply TEAR with a t-5/2.3T in it.  Lots of suspension and break work would be needed though.
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Post by: t3skidoo on February 20, 2008, 07:32:50 PM
Moncton?  Isn't that a little too close to Santa's home for a convertible not pulled by reindeer? 

A 2.3T in that would rock.  And drive the nostalgic ricers mad.  I say go for it.
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Post by: Carpimp1987 on February 20, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
Do it if you know what your doing and could make it work.
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;205372
Do it if you know what your doing and could make it work.


See, that's just it. ;) This is just a thought I had (which is why I said it will never happen) when I saw this in the trader. The biggest problem with this project would be that I'd have to sell my TC and my Truck to buy it. It would still be quite a sight.

Maybe this should be another dream thread like the '10 cars' thread. 'Where would you stuff a 2.3T?" Since this was born out of boredom, I'm going to do that.

So chime in, guys. Where would you stuff a 2.3T? The V8 guys can play too. We know you'd rather have a V8 in a Fox, but what out there would you swap a 2.3T into?
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Post by: ZondaC12 on February 21, 2008, 08:59:54 AM
Dad's 1979 Spitfire sitting in the 3rd stall of our garage. He had a 1984 reynard FF and he always said "that thing would fly if we put a formula ford motor in it". He even said that over dinner once, boy did he get a LOOK from my mom!!! :giggle:.
 
I think the 1.5L 4 in it now makes about 55 horsepower. So yeah a 115 horse 1.6L pinto FF *might* pep it up a lil, LOL. Can't even imagine a 2.3T....
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 21, 2008, 09:05:35 AM
I dunno... A Pinto wagon... A mid 80's 4WD Ranger... A first-gen RX7...
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Post by: Red_LX on February 21, 2008, 09:32:54 AM
I found a 4WD Nissan pickup locally with a spun bearing for $700...I'd love to put a turbo 2.3L in that. But I don't have anywhere to undertake such a project.
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Post by: P71 on February 21, 2008, 09:59:19 AM
How about the other way around? I'd like to take the new Mazda 2.3 DOHC direct-injected Turbo motor and stick it into an 87-88 TC to make a "new" TC. Cobra IRS and 13" 5-lug brakes (with the ABS), figure out a modern ride control, etc. Seeing as how Ford owns Mazda I think it would actually turn out really cool.
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 11:05:42 AM
Quote from: P71;205413
How about the other way around? I'd like to take the new Mazda 2.3 DOHC direct-injected Turbo motor and stick it into an 87-88 TC to make a "new" TC. Cobra IRS and 13" 5-lug brakes (with the ABS), figure out a modern ride control, etc. Seeing as how Ford owns Mazda I think it would actually turn out really cool.


That would be a tough job, since it's a FWD setup. If you wanted to make it rear engined, it might work. Otherwise it would be a really expensive FWD based AWD TC.
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Post by: kingcars on February 21, 2008, 11:17:40 AM
A 2.3T Pinto would be freakin awesome!
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Post by: P71 on February 21, 2008, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: oldraven;205419
That would be a tough job, since it's a FWD setup. If you wanted to make it rear engined, it might work. Otherwise it would be a really expensive FWD based AWD TC.


They made a RWD version for the Mazdaspeed Miata ;)
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
Oh. shiznit, I had no idea they were the same engine. (I always thought the MX-5 had a 2.0L)

*edit*
We're both wrong. The Mazdaspeed MX-5 had a 1.8L turbo. I knew the MS 3 a different motor since it had Direct Injection (DISI) and was sourced from the Mazdaspeed 6.
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Post by: xjeffs on February 21, 2008, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: oldraven;205419
That would be a tough job, since it's a FWD setup. If you wanted to make it rear engined, it might work. Otherwise it would be a really expensive FWD based AWD TC.

Same engine block is in the Ranger.  Use that trans with the Mazda 2.3L turbo.  And the engine itself would cost $2.5k-4.5k.
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Post by: CougarSE on February 21, 2008, 12:52:18 PM
I don't know what I would swap a 2.3 into but I sure know what I would swap a 2.3 OUT of :hick:
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;205433
I don't know what I would swap a 2.3 into but I sure know what I would swap a 2.3 OUT of :hick:


Quote from: oldraven;205399
The V8 guys can play too. We know you'd rather have a V8 in a Fox, but what out there would you swap a 2.3T into?


:flip: You forgot to answer the question.
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Post by: P71 on February 21, 2008, 01:31:16 PM
The old MS Miata had the 1.8, I'm talking about the new MX-5 one. Or does it have yet another different one? I know they had to make something like it as there are a few RX8's running around with MS2.3T swaps.
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: P71;205439
The old MS Miata had the 1.8, I'm talking about the new MX-5 one. Or does it have yet another different one? I know they had to make something like it as there are a few RX8's running around with MS2.3T swaps.


Nope. That is the 2.0L, and it doesn't have a turbo, since there is no third gen. Mazdaspeed.

But it appears xjeffs is right. The MZR is the Duratec.
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Post by: 4bangen on February 21, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: xjeffs;205432
Same engine block is in the Ranger.  Use that trans with the Mazda 2.3L turbo.  And the engine itself would cost $2.5k-4.5k.


not for me, I work for mazda! tee hee hee!

the 2.3t was never factory in a miata. Though to play along they are talking about the next speed miata having one!:burnout:
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Post by: t3skidoo on February 21, 2008, 03:29:39 PM
I'd like to put a built 2.3T (stroker crank, volvo head, big turbo) in a G40 kit car and a new Corvette.  For the Vette, use an ol' iron head just to really make the marque people freak.
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Post by: Chuck W on February 21, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
There is a bellhousing that bolts to the Duratech 2.3 that accepts a T5....

The problem with any of the Duratech stuff...it's not cheap.
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Post by: oldraven on February 21, 2008, 03:45:23 PM
Are you kidding me? Why are people doing Volvo head swaps? There's your DOHC 2.3 turbo right there.
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Post by: gumby on February 21, 2008, 04:03:38 PM
Quote from: oldraven;205456
Are you kidding me? Why are people doing Volvo head swaps? There's your DOHC 2.3 turbo right there.


Quote from: Chuck W;205455

The problem with any of the Duratech stuff...it's not cheap.


thats why. if/when the duratech stuff starts to get less pricey, then it would be interesting. id love to loose the extra weight...
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Post by: V8Demon on February 21, 2008, 04:57:59 PM
In this:
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 21, 2008, 05:18:38 PM
...Or this :D
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Post by: Chuck W on February 21, 2008, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: gumby;205457
thats why. if/when the duratech stuff starts to get less pricey, then it would be interesting. id love to loose the extra weight...


You could spend 5 figures doing a Duratech turbo swap....it's just not that cost-effective at this point.

Those old Volvos are nice choices.
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Post by: HAVI on February 21, 2008, 06:20:15 PM
2.3T in a Nash Metropolitan.
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Post by: SR71TC on February 21, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
How about motorcycle? Or in a VW dunebuggy?
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Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on February 21, 2008, 07:14:12 PM
I have 2 extra intercooled 2.3 TC engines.

We have a 1986 Bayliner runabout boat with a Volvo 2.3 OHC carbed engine. Don't know if the belhousing is the same or not, but it would be nice to put the 2.3turbo Fuel injection in place of the Volvo engine.

Then crank it up to 18 pounds of boost and let that boat haul a--:D
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 21, 2008, 09:27:36 PM
How would you cool the exhaust? Does your Volvo inboard have wet manifolds?
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Post by: turboranger91 on February 21, 2008, 09:40:32 PM
have you thought about putting it in a mazda miata?  there's a guy in tampa/clearwater/st. pete area that did that swap and it turned out pretty badass.  i'm looking for the tread now.
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Post by: fordguy545 on February 21, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
i'd piss off the gm guys while I was at it and get a chevette;)
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Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on February 21, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;205533
How would you cool the exhaust? Does your Volvo inboard have wet manifolds?


Interesting you should ask.

I was wondering if I took the cover off (over the engine compartment) and ran the factory cast iron turbo manifold, would that keep the manifold cool enough?

I have seen guys with V-8s and headers that are not water cooled do it. And the engine would get more air than in the car.

Anyway, the sweet sound of a turbo engine under full boost would be so cool while cruising with a tube out back.:D
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Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on February 21, 2008, 10:30:03 PM
Quote from: fordguy545;205544
i'd piss off the gm guys while I was at it and get a chevette;)


Years ago I wanted to find a Chevette and put it's front subframe under the front of my '84 Lynx (same as Escort)

Then I would put a narrowed 8.8 from a Fox Stang in it on a custom full frame.

With a screaming Turbo 2.3 and around 2600 lbs with driver, that would make one fun ride, especially with stock looking wheels.
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Post by: HAVI on February 21, 2008, 10:36:26 PM
I had an '83 Chevette ....  til I rolled  it through some  smaller aspen trees several times.  Oddly enough, 2 days later at the lot, I fired it up and drove it away.  So I second the vote on a Chevette.
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Post by: Haystack on February 22, 2008, 01:28:20 AM
get a fwd tempo 2.3 with a blown engine and good tranny, then just drop the tc motor in...
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Post by: Carpimp1987 on February 22, 2008, 01:37:34 AM
I was thinking a 1st Gen RX-7 would be kind of cool and cheap to get a project car.

2nd maybe a Ford probe?

3rd fox body mustang coupe

4th mazda miata would be cool and you can also fit a five-o into it seen only 1 its been in the make-a-wish car show here 2 or 3 years

5th new ford focus
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Post by: oldraven on February 22, 2008, 07:12:23 AM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;205582
4th mazda miata would be cool and you can also fit a five-o into it seen only 1 its been in the make-a-wish car show here 2 or 3 years


There's a guy in Edmonton who has done the 302 Miata, and even had a blower on it last I'd heard. He never did race it though.

(http://www.camrosecruisers.com/pictures/2k2/images/040.jpg)
(http://www.camrosecruisers.com/pictures/2k2/images/038.jpg)

:rollin: @ TC and his wagon obsession.
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 22, 2008, 07:35:02 AM
Pinto,Pacer,1st gen. Mustang,Mustang II,Maverick,Vega.
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Post by: oldraven on February 22, 2008, 07:12:14 PM
I just thought about a car I've always wanted to own. For some reason I never put two and two together. Caterham Lotus 7.

(http://www.autoracing1.com/Images/2007/Automotive/LotusSeven2.jpg)
(http://www.kimcar.com/upload/1115271364.jpg)
(http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/seven/pictures/seven15.jpg)
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Post by: daboss351 on February 22, 2008, 07:16:26 PM
hummm golf cart on steriods.....
seen a golf cart with a 454 big block, 2.3t should be easy compared to that!
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 22, 2008, 08:34:06 PM
Oldraven: There's one of those Sevens running around in Sackville. It's powered by a 2.3, but not turbocharged. You can't appreciate how low to the ground those cars are until you pull up next to one in a T-Bird. The thing reminds me of Barny Rubble's car. Looks fun to drive tho...
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Post by: oldraven on February 22, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
Nice. I saw a review of one some time ago, and the guy said it was the only car he'd driven that he could have the palm of his hand on the asphalt, and his arse in the seat.... comfortably. I would have to drive it with a helmet. It would be like driving a bike to work, but I'd bet way more fun!
:burnout:
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Post by: wcarney on February 23, 2008, 06:37:21 PM
prolly work here  http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43931
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on February 23, 2008, 07:07:35 PM
After the "Seller's regret" thread, I was just thinking a 2.3t and a T5 would be a hell of a lot of fun in a '79 pinto. Maybe a nice baby blue enamel with a white vinyl top and granny cloth seats, 14" wheels and hubcaps, nice quiet exhaust...
 
Yeah, that'd be fun. :)
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 23, 2008, 10:33:52 PM
That's what happened to the 2.3t I sold out of my parts TC - the guy dropped it into his '78 Bobcat. He actually bought my engine as a replacement for the 2.3t he already had in the car.
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Post by: Clayton on February 23, 2008, 10:37:40 PM
(http://www.funfacts.com.au/images/george-w-bush.jpg)

:hick: