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Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: V8Demon on January 24, 2008, 04:33:15 PM
http://www.retro-solutions.com/hid.html

Custom jobs....Expensivo however....
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: vinnietbird on January 25, 2008, 12:18:40 AM
I wonder how much.I have no idea which projector,or bulb,or ballast to decide what I want.It's all foreign to me.any idea on cast for a typical job on T-Bird lights?
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: V8Demon on January 25, 2008, 11:11:18 AM
I priced sending a set of my own headlamps in for an HID conversion with angel eyes...It was $700+.  I've seen some of his work...Top notch, but that's a custom cam and the 3.45's and drag radials...
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: ~AC on January 25, 2008, 12:59:30 PM
one thng about retrofitting our headlights with true HID's from my understanding of them, our entire headlight bucket/lens assembly would melt under the temp loads that HID is responsible.  if there was a way to make the headlight buckets out of glass and retro fit HID's within the housings, it'd be pretty pricey.  High Intensity Discharge, if you didnt already know.  now it may be different on some headlights b/c i seem to remember some using plastic, but im pretty sure the plastic even the NOS headlights are made out of seem they would melt.  They're not just projector headlights like aftermarket WANNA BE HID headlights.

Dont hold it to me with this info, b/c this is what i've been told by a couple friends that are into cars with factory HID's.  They could be wrong, but i trust them since i dont have 700+ to give it a shot myself.  also most of the HID kits dont come with 100% of the parts a standard HID system would stock..  heard of stuff like they need a balast per HID and the retro cheapo kits come with 1 per system type of stuff.  also i've noticed true "retrofits" go into glass housings on lexus and nissan/infinities.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: Cougar8775 on January 25, 2008, 01:35:54 PM
i emailed the company with a few questions that were brought up here and i can post what is said.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 25, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Problem with HID conversion in these cars: Kiss your high beams goodbye. HID headlights do not have provisions for dual-beams, and can only be installed in cars with four headlights so that two can be used for high beams and two for low beams (or more common, two for low beams and two regular bulbs for high beams).
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: baxo on January 25, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
Yep, so they would work great for the 83 - 86's ;)
Title: Not a good idea
Post by: Robert Camp on February 22, 2008, 01:02:47 AM
The light source (arc) in HID lamps is not at the same position nor of the same orientation as that used in our older lamps. HID requires lenses and reflectors designed for the light source characteristics to be  properly focused. At best you would get a light that would not be as good as a properly designed lamp and likely not better than what you have, and at worst, a beam that will be glaring to oncoming traffic. If you can't get an HID assembly designed as a unit, it's going to be subpar and likely dangerous to other drivers!

Of possibly minor concern, it's also against Federal and State lighting regulations.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 22, 2008, 06:09:00 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;199863
Problem with HID conversion in these cars: Kiss your high beams goodbye. HID headlights do not have provisions for dual-beams, and can only be installed in cars with four headlights so that two can be used for high beams and two for low beams (or more common, two for low beams and two regular bulbs for high beams).


Actually, there are kits that now have provisions for high beams. They work by having a solenoid that angles the bulb itself.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: BEARMAX on February 23, 2008, 12:09:30 AM
Quote from: baxo;199864
Yep, so they would work great for the 83 - 86's ;)


thats right beeoches 4 eyed pride.......woop woop:shakeass:
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: 32VFoxBird on February 23, 2008, 12:20:26 AM
there also illegal in most areas, due to them not being DOT approved.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: V8Demon on February 23, 2008, 07:28:32 AM
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HID headlights do not have provisions for dual-beams, and can only be installed in cars with four headlights


How is it done in the '08 Mustang then?
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: Quietleaf on February 23, 2008, 11:19:41 PM
The H3 HID kit looks tempting. My H3 fog lamp bulbs don't give off squat for light.
Title: Perhaps a headlight option....
Post by: V8Demon on February 28, 2008, 12:11:28 AM
Behold:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/hid-dual-beam-kit-9004.html

http://www.retro-solutions.com/DIGITAL.html