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Title: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 25, 2005, 11:20:45 PM
Hey guys, i just installed an msd tfi coil, and after installing it, i started the car and i hear a electrical sound much like a generator coil sound "if you know aht i mean" , i cant really describe it, im pretty sure its coming out of the new msd coil, is this normal, is it becoz i m using a higher voltage coil......the sound is not too low or too high.....just kinda annoying when you dont listen to anything on the stereo...! is it possible to get rid of this sound?.....
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: CougarSE on February 25, 2005, 11:35:22 PM
You must have got the Impulse Plasma Drive version Captian Kirk.

I've never heard of one doing that before honestly.  Could the alternator be working harder?  I'm shooting in the dark here!
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 25, 2005, 11:42:50 PM
A whata whatta what?.... :)

the alternator is new.......it is fine.......the coil is making the noise, like a high output electronic item ........lets say you buy an electric heater "high output" , when u plug it in your home, it makes a high pitch noise....electrical noise....you know what i mean right?......well i just wanted to know whether its normal or not....and whether i can hookup something to it or do something to make that sound go away!
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: amooset on February 26, 2005, 12:18:52 AM
Quote from: blackwidow
A whata whatta what?.... :)

the alternator is new.......it is fine.......the coil is making the noise, like a high output electronic item ........lets say you buy an electric heater "high output" , when u plug it in your home, it makes a high pitch noise....electrical noise....you know what i mean right?......well i just wanted to know whether its normal or not....and whether i can hookup something to it or do something to make that sound go away!


You mean like the power supply on a computer?
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 26, 2005, 12:25:21 AM
well thats usually the sound of a fan.......i guess......its more like a surge!
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 26, 2005, 12:26:11 AM
you know when current flows through a high voltage cable, you can hear a sound right?........that is it
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: V8Demon on February 26, 2005, 03:24:18 AM
You mean you put in an ignition coil made by MSD, correct?  Yes they make noise. I don't think you can make the noise go away.  Mine's been doing the same thing for 3 years now...
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: 5.0willgo on February 26, 2005, 08:36:20 AM
It is an annoying sound but soon you will tune it out. Mine drove me nuts for the first month or two after I put it on but now I'm so used to hearing it that it doesn't bother me anymore.
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: nirvanagod on February 26, 2005, 07:10:47 PM
Ah, the the good ol msd buzzing noise. Mine does it as well. What it is, is the the coil actually vibrating. Normal coils do it to, but since they're not as high of an output you don't hear it. Try putting your finger on it while the car is running, you'll feel what i'm talking about (and no it's not the car). Anyway's it's normal, just give it a while like others have said. You'll tune it out and won't hear it unless you try.
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: CougarSE on February 26, 2005, 08:46:05 PM
Well Capacitors buzz when they charge.  Like camera's and power supply's from Pc's!

I guess a coil is a capacitor isn't it?
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: jcassity on February 26, 2005, 11:48:29 PM
Someone with an msd should try this.

add a capacitor from the frame ground to the metal frame of the coil.  same type of filter you see hooked up to a 351w engine where the coil has a noise filter.

Id like to see if someone could rob or copy the 351w filter onto an msd coil.  ive heard about this before but im surprised no one has tried common audio system filter parts yet.

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nevermind,, there's already a tech bulletin on it

http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/tech%20bulletins/tb_radio_noise.pdf

or..............

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22msd+noise%22
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: jcassity on February 27, 2005, 12:00:54 AM
Quote from: CougarSE
Well Capacitors buzz when they charge.  Like camera's and power supply's from Pc's!

I guess a coil is a capacitor isn't it?


no to both

but...... a coil is a wire wound up but the distance between the windings produces and effect of a cap.  thats a bit deep than what we're talking about like air core caps and such.
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: nirvanagod on February 27, 2005, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: jcassity
nevermind,, there's already a tech bulletin on it


Yeah, msd actually makes a specific filter for their product. I think it's like 14 bucks or so. Guess I shoulda mentioned that. Sorry!
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 27, 2005, 08:54:38 PM
has anybody tried the filter rfi.....also how do u hook it up?
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: nirvanagod on February 27, 2005, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: blackwidow
has anybody tried the filter rfi.....also how do u hook it up?


I assume your talking about the msd branded filter? I haven't used the branded one, but when I installed my headunit I hardwired a metra noise filter into the harness adapter and it works great. However I intend to put in the msd one in do to the fact that my mp3 player pulls it's power outta the cig lighter and I get white noise and hiss when i'm on it's source input.
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: blackwidow on February 27, 2005, 09:18:45 PM
yah i was talking about the msd rfi noise filter ! :)
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: jcassity on February 27, 2005, 10:54:41 PM
if you guys go to a bone yard and see an old dizzy that has points,, snag the condensor. (round thing with a single wire.
Title: Re: Some noise coming from engine?.....help pls
Post by: fastbird86 on February 28, 2005, 01:57:51 AM
I can vhough for that!

All MSD coils make that noise! My car, My buddies Mustang, My brothers Camaro IROC with the HEI system.

They all make noise, guess that means their workin :D

I know they shock the s**t out of you though, My hand was numb for at least 2 hours when I accidently shocked myself after installing it.