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Title: Sicko
Post by: Carl on January 13, 2008, 06:28:48 AM
Watch this.

http://www.seedownload.com/megavideo.php?id=6GLO6VSV

What a  shame....

I knew health care was bad but this is horrifying
Title: Sicko
Post by: jcassity on January 13, 2008, 09:44:27 AM
it stinks being on dial up. I see alot of these threads with vidios but know better.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 13, 2008, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: jcassity;197462
it stinks being on dial up. I see alot of these threads with vidios but know better.
I know exactly how you feel. Dialup sucks.
Title: Sicko
Post by: *MAYHEM* on January 13, 2008, 11:32:56 AM
Didn't watch the whole thing, just the first three stories, that was enough.
 
I am one of those without health insurance. I have stitched myself up a dozen times. I've lived with broken bones when (collar bones, knee caps, fingers, ribs) knowing that an emergency room visit would cost a fortune that I didn't have and all they would do is wrap them up and tell me not to move. I already knew that, why did I need a Pakistani who can't even speak english to tell me that?
 
I'm 45 years old and I know I have some health issues that need to be dealt with. I can't afford to to do it. So I have a different attitude about these things. I no longer worry about what I might die of. I'm going to die, some day, one way or another. I refuse to live my life in fear of when I'm going to die and what I will die of.
 
And I will be remembered for my life, not my death.
Title: Sicko
Post by: blknredcougar on January 13, 2008, 12:29:44 PM
very interesting,  but long. I need to start looking of a job in Canada
Title: Sicko
Post by: BCA on January 13, 2008, 12:48:49 PM
I'm not going to deny that our health care system needs to be looked at in order to curb the continually escalating costs, but in my opinion Michael Moore is the real "sicko" for making movies that are nothing more than propaganda to get rich. :disappoin

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: Sicko
Post by: ZondaC12 on January 13, 2008, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: BCA;197493
I'm not going to deny that our health care system needs to be looked at in order to curb the continually escalating costs, but in my opinion Michael Moore is the real "sicko" for making movies that are nothing more than propaganda to get rich. :disappoin
 
Brent
:cougarsmily:

 
x2  Big fat windbag.
Title: Sicko
Post by: JKATHRE on January 13, 2008, 01:18:28 PM
Doctors in this country take on tremendous debt from school to learn their trade.  Medical supply companies charge huge amounts for equipment....lawsuits...go figure why health care costs soo much. No surprise at all.  Insurance companies get put in the middle of this.  The truth is that the system sucks.  No one in the US should be without health care- period.  I admire Michael Moore for bringing this to the attention of the public in a movie.  His movie "SICKO" got yanked from the theatres here quickly because around here, they don't want the public at large to give much thought to the subject--if one should get seriously sick.  The truth is, insurance health policies today do not have the same unlimited coverage that they had when my parents collected 40 years ago.  If you think you could be immune to this mess, pray it never happens to you---for one thing, don't plan on losing your job, especially if you are over 40 because your health care will go with it--if you had any.  That never happens in the US these days, right?
Title: Sicko
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 13, 2008, 01:18:40 PM
X3. I've always been somewhat of a liberal thinker, but even I can't stand Michael Moore. Still, he had a pretty good fart-off with Peter Griffin...
Title: Sicko
Post by: V8Demon on January 13, 2008, 01:28:03 PM
It's amazing the things we will do when faced with no health insurance.  I was without for about 2 1/2 years just before 2003.
MANY broken fingers, popped fingernails, dislocated knee.

One time I whacked my right middle finger with a 28oz. framing hammer.  Blood pooled under the nail causing pressure in turn causing imense pain.  I actually drilled 2 holes in the fingernail to let the blood run out to relieve the pressure.

Electrical tape was for small cuts, duct tape was for those which really should have gotten stitches....
Title: Sicko
Post by: JKATHRE on January 13, 2008, 04:04:25 PM
V8--  After some guy at work told me to drill the nail--I thought he was nutso.  After 2 days of pain, I drilled it.  Instant relief.  After that, no pain.  The nail fell off, but got a new one in its place.  Maybe that's why doctors cut open the skull to reduce pressure in the brain after brain injury. The brain cut probably has saved a lot of lives.

Mr. Moore was in a movie called "Lucky Numbers" with John Travolta.  It remains one of the funnier movies I have seen.  He plays Lisa Kudrow's cousin I believe.  If you liked "Fargo", Lucky Numbers follows somewhat a similar type of plot.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 13, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
I've got free health care, and I've drilled my nails as well :hick: I figured "What the hell, that's what the doctor would do anyway"...

...and once when I was about 12 years old I cut myself very deep, in the leg, with a boxcutter while trying to cut the back off a speaker box (knife slipped, came down across my leg). It went in just between two major veins, but did not bleed. A bunch of white stuff that I'm assuming was fat was hanging out, though. Not wanting to tell my mother that I was cutting my stereo speakers apart, I tucked the white stuff back in the hole and sealed it up with clear plastic packing tape. Never bled a drop, but it did leave a rather large scar...
Title: Sicko
Post by: xjeffs on January 13, 2008, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;197501
X3. I've always been somewhat of a liberal thinker, but even I can't stand Michael Moore. Still, he had a pretty good fart-off with Peter Griffin...


LOL.  I missed that.  Family Guy while excessive is hilarious.
Title: Sicko
Post by: blu84302 on January 13, 2008, 06:12:33 PM
That was an awesome video.  It wasn't full of propaganda or anything.  At the end when they took Americans to Cuba to be treated was the best.

5 cent inhalers, compared to our 120.oo inhalers...  That's just insane.

Still don't think I'll vote for Hilary. :D
Title: Sicko
Post by: stuntmannick on January 13, 2008, 06:44:11 PM
http://www.stopfda.org/ (http://"http://www.stopfda.org/")
Title: Sicko
Post by: Carl on January 13, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: blu84302;197555
That was an awesome video.  It wasn't full of propaganda or anything.  At the end when they took Americans to Cuba to be treated was the best.

5 cent inhalers, compared to our 120.oo inhalers...  That's just insane.

Still don't think I'll vote for Hilary. :D

Blu is right, the movie had no propaganda whatsoever just true stories about a terrible mess. My mom does not have health care right now and its really scary. Skip to the end to see how he helped his biggest rival. :D
Title: Sicko
Post by: JeremyB on January 13, 2008, 07:35:40 PM
They didn't show my story. Health insurance saved my ass, literally - quickly, promptly, with no fuss.

Wait a minute, that wouldn't make for a good movie...
Title: Sicko
Post by: nirvanagod on January 13, 2008, 08:29:11 PM
I don't know what to think of my country right now.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Carl on January 13, 2008, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;197573
They didn't show my story. Health insurance saved my ass, literally - quickly, promptly, with no fuss.

Wait a minute, that wouldn't make for a good movie...


Congrats you are one of the few.
Title: Sicko
Post by: JeremyB on January 13, 2008, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: Carl;197598
Congrats you are one of the few.

Maybe I live a charmed life, but most everyone I know has had the same experience.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 13, 2008, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;197573
They didn't show my story. Health insurance saved my ass, literally - quickly, promptly, with no fuss.

Wait a minute, that wouldn't make for a good movie...

Of course it saved your ass because you were lucky enough to have it...;)
Title: Sicko
Post by: Carl on January 13, 2008, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;197605
Maybe I live a charmed life, but most everyone I know has had the same experience.


Well like I said I a Fortunate enough to be in the Military. I know most of my friends and family back home do not unless they are on some kind of Government program and even that does not cover nearly all of them.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Blown306Cougar on January 14, 2008, 12:31:31 AM
Quote from: Carl;197449
Watch this.

http://www.seedownload.com/megavideo.php?id=6GLO6VSV

What a  shame....

I knew health care was bad but this is horrifying


i'm going down that road right now.. with the deductable each year.. "$500.00" and the out of pocket each year of "$3000.00" and the copay each infusion and check up.. $40.00 each time which equels about $1000.00 a year.. gran total is about $4500.00 each year for the rest of my life!!! if the price for everything does'nt go up each year..this year the copay went up $10.00 a visit..

and i only make just over $12.00 and hour.. oh and on top of what i allready pay i allso pay $150.00 a month for the insurance.. which equals $1800.00 a year which brings the gran total to $6300.00

my gross pay for the year for 40 hours a week is $25833.60 thats is gross :yuck: :barf: my net pay after taxes is about $ 19891.60 minus the $6300.00 equels
$13591.60 is what i'm left out of my pay..oops i forgot something the 401k which is about $1200.00 a year the new gran total left from my pay for me is $12391.60 then i have to pay all my regular bills... :mad: do you really want to know whats left after that about :2c: :disappoin

i'm not going to be able to watch that whole video tonight ..

from what i watched sofar got my attention was at 14.31 into the video where they name all the diseases that insurance companies will not cover. "funny starwars spoof" mine was named i guess it was a good thing i had insurance before i diagnosed:rolleyes:

but i don't see it being covered for ever since it cost about $540,000.00 a year for the rest of my life..just for the treatment alone..


Nick.
Title: Sicko
Post by: jcassity on January 14, 2008, 01:03:03 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;197505


Electrical tape was for small cuts, duct tape was for those which really should have gotten stitches....


ive recently discovered super glue. maybe the rest of you already know about it but hey,, it does stop the bleeding.
Title: Sicko
Post by: Ductape91 on January 14, 2008, 03:31:58 AM
with the cost of healthcare and being broke and not being insured(my whole life) the only time i ever seen a doctor is when coming out of the back of an ambulance.
my philosiphy is if i can stand up and walk home it aint worth going to the hospital over.