Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: thunderjet302 on January 03, 2008, 10:45:18 PM
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: thunderjet302 on January 03, 2008, 10:45:18 PM
This is how my car sounds now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLPbIbuKE0
So I want to replace the current 2.25" tail pipes and 2.25" Flowtech Afterburner lers with 2.5" tails and lers (the car already has a 2.5" catless H pipe). So my question is what is the loudest ler I can run that doesn't sound like ass? The car isn't a daily driver so I'm not concerned about it driving me nuts. Also I'm NOT running the car with out lers ;) . Or should I just get another set of Flowtech Afterburners (2.5")? Any input would be great.
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on January 03, 2008, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;195673
This is how my car sounds now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLPbIbuKE0
So I want to replace the current 2.25" tail pipes and 2.25" Flowtech Afterburner lers with 2.5" tails and lers (the car already has a 2.5" catless H pipe). So my question is what is the loudest ler I can run that doesn't sound like ass? The car isn't a daily driver so I'm not concerned about it driving me nuts. Also I'm NOT running the car with out lers ;) . Or should I just get another set of Flowtech Afterburners (2.5")? Any input would be great.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=criWhTr_L0s
flowmaster 1 chambers
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: Clayton on January 03, 2008, 11:23:15 PM
warlocks. borla. cherry bombs new cased ler sounds pretty nice too
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Post by: 87badbird2613 on January 04, 2008, 12:39:20 AM
Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87;195674
http://youtube.com/watch?v=criWhTr_L0s
flowmaster 1 chambers
i was gonna say the same thing mine sounds awesome !!!
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Post by: Carpimp1987 on January 04, 2008, 03:38:43 AM
Cherry bombs for V8 anyone got a cherry bomb on their 2.3Liter?
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Post by: V8Demon on January 04, 2008, 07:30:46 AM
dumps!
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Post by: bhazard on January 04, 2008, 07:32:27 AM
loud lers? no lers!
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Post by: slamedcat on January 04, 2008, 07:51:02 AM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;195679
warlocks.
+1 and then get a set of electric cut outs for the dumps.
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Post by: chri85tc on January 04, 2008, 05:12:49 PM
I have a Cherry Bomb Vortex on my 2.3L.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=goR9wKyTnCU
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: thunderjet302 on January 04, 2008, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;195699
dumps!
Quote from: bhazard;195700
loud lers? no lers!
I think both those are illegal:hick: Then again dumps might not be but I still want tail pipes :hick:
As it stands right now the car is pretty loud (ie it sets off some car alarms:D ). I'm wondering if I keep the same lers (in a 2.5" size) if it'll be stupid loud. I know the Flowtech Afterburners I use are louder than regular 40 serries Flowmasters. I've been looking at the Cheryy Bomb Extream ler though. It is a little ler with one chamber and that's it. Similar to the 10 serries flowmaster race lers but it comes in a 2.5" offset in/offset out configuration;)
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Post by: Tbird232ci on January 04, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
Meh for chambered lers. Dynomax ultraflows.
Chris, do you have a cat on it?
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Post by: chri85tc on January 04, 2008, 06:34:36 PM
Visually I do :)
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Post by: Sduneman3 on January 08, 2008, 01:21:39 AM
Quote from: chri85tc;195795
Visually I do :)
LOL, Always a good thing!!
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Post by: 1WLD BRD on January 08, 2008, 04:28:27 AM
SLP's Loud mouth, systems are THE loudest, but I would go with 1 5/8's BBK headers, 2.5" offroad H-pipe, 2.5" Flowmaster 40 series and 2.5" tails.... that is the exhuast setup I ran on all my stangs, and It would set off car alarms just cruising past them...
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Post by: V8Demon on January 08, 2008, 04:07:55 PM
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SLP's Loud mouth, systems are THE loudest
Aren't those just basically straight pipe though?
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Post by: ~AC on January 08, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
This may help i got it from a miata forum (go figure, but some of those guys actually put 302s in their miatas)
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This list from article gives some info on loudness and horsepower for various brands but the test bed was a ford 302 so it may not apply.
LER SHOOTOUT:
Results based on 5.0 Mustang Magazine December 2002 issue (page 55). Test car is a ’90 Coupe with 370 HP and 11 second potential. A number of 66 pulls were made to compile this information. Where does your ler stack up?
1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT. 2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT. 3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT. 4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT. 5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT. 6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT. 7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT. 8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT. 9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT. 10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db). 11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT. 12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT. 13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT. 14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT. 15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT. 16.No ler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: Dogcharmer on January 08, 2008, 04:46:37 PM
I love the way the Magnaflows sound on my 87. I'd buy those again in a heartbeat.
I think your car sounds great in that vid. Hell, you've got me thinking about getting an off road H-Pipe (again).
BTW, this is off topic but what rpm does your XE266 kick in at?
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: V8Demon on January 08, 2008, 04:58:27 PM
1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT. 2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT. 3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT. 4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT. 5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT. 6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT. 7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT. 8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT. 9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT. 10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db). 11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT. 12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT. 13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT. 14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT. 15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT. 16.No ler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
HP #'s mean nothing if other things in the exhaust system are changed to accomodate certain lers. I've never seen the article so I couln't tell if this test holds any substance. More info is needed. Header type and size, pipe diameter size, collector length and diameter..... I'm sure different exhaust setups will affect ler ouptput and which ones output the most as well. If the rest of the exhaust system was left unchanged for each run on these particular tests, it would seem the exhaust system was optimized to be used with a ler and not wihout as evidenced by no ler showing the lowest HP rating.
Show me how many CFM's a ler is capable of flowing on a flow bench with no other piping involved. It would convince me a little more than these numbers without how they came upon them.
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Post by: ~AC on January 08, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
i think they used a stock 302 mustang. all that was changed on the car was the lers.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on January 08, 2008, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: Dogcharmer;196515
BTW, this is off topic but what rpm does your XE266 kick in at?
Actually it's a Magnum 266HR ;) The cam kicks in at about 2,000 rpm and pulls like a mofookie up to the 5,000 rpm shift point. Really it doesn't feel like power drops off untill it's in 3rd gear over 5,000 rpms with my foot to the floor;) Cam has an operating range of 1,200-5,200 rpm.
You can hear the cam in my car a bit at idle though can't you?;)
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: V8Demon on January 08, 2008, 11:32:07 PM
So what stock 5.0 Mustang puts out 370 HP?
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Post by: Dogcharmer on January 08, 2008, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;196600
Actually it's a Magnum 266HR ;) The cam kicks in at about 2,000 rpm and pulls like a mofookie up to the 5,000 rpm shift point. Really it doesn't feel like power drops off untill it's in 3rd gear over 5,000 rpms with my foot to the floor;) Cam has an operating range of 1,200-5,200 rpm.
You can hear the cam in my car a bit at idle though can't you?;)
Nice!
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: ~AC on January 09, 2008, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;196605
So what stock 5.0 Mustang puts out 370 HP?
hmmm check mate sir, i didnt even read them i just copied and pasted and went from word of mouth. but its the same car, prolly with the goodies to make 370.
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Post by: V8Demon on January 09, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
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but its the same car, prolly with the goodies to make 370.
Yes, but what exhaust components besides the lers were changed from dyno run to dyno run? Some lers are built specifically for certain h/x-pipes and cannot be used with other systems. One would hope the lers use for this test could all bolt up to the same piping and that this was in fact done. Until I know for sure, I'll remain skeptical.
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Post by: ~AC on January 09, 2008, 12:42:46 AM
i just say be skeptical, but it does kind of give you an idea of the performance. an *IDEA* of how they are.
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Post by: Innes on January 09, 2008, 07:10:21 AM
no s took last place
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Post by: slamedcat on January 09, 2008, 08:07:00 AM
I see they listed the spin tech lers. I have always been curious about them.
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Post by: superpinto on January 13, 2008, 08:06:47 PM
how about spiral flows.
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Post by: V8Demon on January 13, 2008, 08:11:12 PM
Sorry to hijack.....I just sent out an e-mail to se if these http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/product_info.php?cPath=380_316_403_421&products_id=1432&osCsid=e799740318504a9b3614ad43ac294d63 will clear an AOD, and if so whether or not they need modification to do so.
Title: Loud lers?
Post by: daboss351 on January 14, 2008, 12:15:37 PM
slp loud mouths sound freaking INSANE on 5.0's. Seen one on dyno with them at a local mustang shop. Holy shiznit it was awesome!
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Post by: daboss351 on January 14, 2008, 12:21:40 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8OH8dKA6SQ 85 5.0 stang slp system
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Post by: Sick88Tbird on January 17, 2008, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: superpinto;197576
how about spiral flows.
+1 for the Moroso Spiral Flows...I freakin' hate SLP, sounds like ass. A buddy of mine replaced his flowmaster 40's on his old '72 Maverick with 2.5" spiral flows...such an amazing difference...no gay cackle or crackling sounds either....guys were asking him if he had put a big block in it....lol. If my car looked like it should be fast, I would have spiral flows on it.
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Post by: daboss351 on January 17, 2008, 03:02:36 PM