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Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 19, 2007, 06:53:28 PM
i picked up a couple new gauges to finish off my panel, and im feelin somewhat motivated once again to work on my car.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00694.jpg)

i havent turned a wrench on this pile since probly september....its so close to runnin again its ridiculous that i havent finished it up, but life happens. here i sit winter time again; almost 2008. time to make resolutions, right?
i resolve to get this car on the road again over this winter so i can drive it in the spring, and i will  drive it to CJ08! :burnout:


to make this a true progress thread, here are some of the highlights(1.5yrs worth :hick: ) of my project so far:
IRS (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=9299")
Kmember (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=9399")
Kmember plus (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=10208")
front suspension (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=10402")
more IRS (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13081")
SFCs (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13523")
roll bar (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13707")
brakes (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13987")

this is how she looks right now
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/d829a00e.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on December 19, 2007, 07:17:34 PM
Good work, nice to see progress.  I'd like to put yours next to mine sometime and compare up close.

Does the car need an alignment, looks like the rears are cambered in a little too much?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 19, 2007, 07:31:18 PM
its not drivable, so no it hasnt been aligned just yet.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on December 19, 2007, 08:50:53 PM
What's the weight difference between the new and old K-members?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 19, 2007, 09:04:25 PM
i didnt weigh them myself, so i dont really know. sorry.


when was your cardomain last updated?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on December 19, 2007, 09:11:41 PM
That K-member is sweet.  Is it a one-off or production?  If only someone would make a strong, light K for the 83-86s.

My cardomain?  Not for a while.  I'm about ready to add some more as I'm getting close on the motor, and I've got new wheels coming, maybe won't need to mod the fenders.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 19, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
it was a production piece at one time. they are no longer produced to the best of my knowledge. its a mustang part, doesnt take much to make em fit a tbird.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daminc on December 19, 2007, 10:11:15 PM
I like the gauge setup. Are you going to brush the (aluminum, I'm guessing) to match the dash?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 19, 2007, 10:16:37 PM
thanks, yeah its .050" aluminum.
it probly wont match exactly, but yeah im thinkin about brushin it up with a scotchbrite wheel.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daminc on December 19, 2007, 10:21:12 PM
that will look cool.
If you can bevel the edge and paint it charcoal. It'll look real close.
don't forget to clear coat it  so it doesn't dull
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: jlewis05 on December 21, 2007, 01:13:59 AM
Hurry up.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: CougarSE on December 21, 2007, 09:31:18 PM
I've seen this car in person.  I've sat in this car.  I sat in it and made vroom vroom noises while shifting gears and gripping the steering wheel.  Its so cool.!  Keep up the good work Gumby!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 29, 2007, 06:58:57 PM
got some work done on the gauges this afternoon

before:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00716.jpg)

makin room for gauges:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00714.jpg)

one advantage of not runnin a radio in the car is that i can wire all my gauges up to a spare plug from some old stereo install and plug the new gauge harness into the factory radio harness.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00719.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00722.jpg)

i removed a couple extra wires from the OEM radio harness, and added a ground to the plug. there are three wires in it now, 12V switched, illumination, and chassis ground. when i need to work in the dash later, i dont need to worry about all the wires on the gauges, jus one plug

im hopin to get back out tonight to get everything plumbed at least thru the firewall so i can close up the dash.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 29, 2007, 10:08:47 PM
dash and underhood portions of the gauges are done! gotta drop the diff, install the temp sender, and string one more wire, then all the gauges will be complete.

from my seat:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00723.jpg)

from the backseat:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00726.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00724.jpg)


:birdsmily:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on December 30, 2007, 12:27:35 AM
Good work.  I'm encouraged by what you're doing, I'm moving in the same direction.  I can't wait to show how my dash is going to look, very similar to yours but a little different.

Nice call on the wiring.  Adding all those gauges can be a real wiring nightmare.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Carl on December 30, 2007, 07:32:20 AM
Quote from: gumby;194949
dash and underhood portions of the gauges are done! gotta drop the diff, install the temp sender, and string one more wire, then all the gauges will be complete.

from my seat:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00723.jpg)

from the backseat:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00726.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00724.jpg)


:birdsmily:


I gotta hand it to ya man that looks sick!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Ether947 on December 30, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
Hey that looks pretty sweet. What kinda steering wheel is that? Looks familar... but I can't put my finger on it.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on December 30, 2007, 11:01:50 AM
Nice to see some progress.

I imagine I'll be wandering down a similar path with the '83 eventually myself.

You think you'll be running come this summer?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on December 30, 2007, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Ether947;194991
What kinda steering wheel is that? Looks familar... but I can't put my finger on it.

its a cheap APC wheel i grabbed off ebay; hence no center button :hick:
i wanted a non-cruise TC wheel, but that didnt work out; twice. so i fell back to old thoughts of a D-shaped wheel, and decided to go for it. im sure its a knock-off of a grant or momo or sumthin.....

Quote from: Chuck W;194994

You think you'll be running come this summer?


thats the plan!  :burnout:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on December 30, 2007, 01:12:22 PM
 good work man!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: FLSTCI71 on December 31, 2007, 12:42:03 PM
Hey Gumby, lookin' cool!! I've seen the car in person too, but I didn't get to sit in it and make vroom vroom noises. Maybe next time. Until then, keep up the good work!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 03, 2008, 09:49:22 PM
drilled a hole in my diff tonight

3/16" pilot hole
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00730.jpg)

11/32" hole
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00731.jpg)

1/8 NPT tap
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00732.jpg)

sender installed
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00733.jpg)


i also snagged a couple pics of my relocated battery/starter relay. need to build a tie down for the battery to finish it all up.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00734.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSC00735.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Carpimp1987 on January 04, 2008, 04:03:18 AM
That will be nice to get it running again only thing i don't like the 1 gauge by it self looks lost should of cut up around the shifter pastic panel other than that i can't see a single thing that looks bad or out of place.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 04, 2008, 06:30:39 AM
huh? sentence structure, punctuation?
id like to respond to your post, but i cant understand what your sayin.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Clayton on January 04, 2008, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;195696
That will be nice to get it running again. Only thing i don't like the 1 gauge by itself it looks lost. You should of cut up around the shifter pastic panel, other than that i can't see a single thing that looks bad or out of place.


FIXED!!!!!!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 04, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: Carpimp1987; interpreted by BlackJack;195696
Only thing i don't like the 1 gauge by itself it looks lost. You should of cut up around the shifter pastic panel

why would i want to look at the shifter to see my gauges?



i made the lower gauge panel larger than my current needs demand so i would not hafta go back and make another panel later. the extra space will be used for any other instrumentation and control switches i may need later on.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Beau on January 04, 2008, 07:13:27 PM
Judging by his paint, I'd venture he doesn't need to worry about where gauges are at...

Man that's gonna be an awesome car. more pics!! lol
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 04, 2008, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;195803
more pics!!


all my pics are here. (http://"http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/") knock yourself out!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: V8Demon on January 04, 2008, 07:53:22 PM
Am I seein' those seat right?!  They have cloth halos that appear to match?!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 04, 2008, 08:16:11 PM
correct sir.

the seats are recaros from an 87 saleen. grey on grey cloth w/red piping.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Sduneman3 on January 08, 2008, 01:28:28 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/42c328f9.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/1d067193.jpg)
Are those Explorer Rims?  What size tires are you running on those?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 08, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
yup. 17" explorer wheels. that was a test fit, i didnt keep them. tires were 235/45/17 IIRC.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: CougarSE on January 08, 2008, 10:37:44 AM
I'll check the tire size.  They are in my garage now :hick:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Sduneman3 on January 08, 2008, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;196423
I'll check the tire size.  They are in my garage now :hick:


Well, personally, I think that they look pretty good!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: ~AC on January 08, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
:bowdown:  Gumby nice mods :D
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daminc on January 08, 2008, 08:54:12 PM
gumby,
did you take your headliner out when you were welding inside your car?
If not, how did you protect it from spark burns.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 08, 2008, 09:00:48 PM
i didnt do any welding close enough to the headliner to worry about it. the roll bar is bolt in, and the SFC's didnt cause any problems.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 22, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
a'ight been workin on a few things, trying to get some loose ends tied up on the rest of the car so i can start on finishin up the engine bay.

finished up the wiring for the diff temp gauge.
ditched my door lock actuators(frozen), and swapped all the locks in the car. i now have a complete, workin, set of turbo keys for it.
removed the ABS and PRC computers from the trunk area. all the wiring is still there. parring the harness will probly be next winters project along with swappin out my horribly cracked dash.
started on a few more aluminum panels for various places around the car.

the PO wrecked the steel ring around the inner shifter boot and cut a hole in the top of the tranny tunnel, so i made a new panel for that area
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/fe5f19b7.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/d470765f.jpg)

also started on my door panel filler plates. the PO strikes again; when i got the car one of the arm rest pads was missing, both arm rests were busted, and half the screws were missing. since i am not retainin the power locks, i jus threw the armrests in the dumpster. hopefuly i can finish up my filler plates and get some pics of them tomorrow.

playin with an idea for the hood as well. since im not runnin a TMIC, i dont want the TC scoops in the hood. i was thinkin about findin a smooth hood for it, still might later on. but in the mean time, i built these plates for the openings. not quite finished yet....
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/debc3dcd.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/05389248.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/18813543.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 23, 2008, 05:40:14 PM
as promised, here are a couple shots of my arm rest delete filler panels. a lil more file work in one corner so it fits just so, and this one is done. the other side is not far behind. attach them to the door panels, and done! reassemble the interior, and move on to other projects with the car.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/70177abf.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/42206367.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on January 23, 2008, 05:54:39 PM
 thats not bad looking!!
Good work!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: thunderjet302 on January 24, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: gumby;199532
as promised, here are a couple shots of my arm rest delete filler panels. a lil more file work in one corner so it fits just so, and this one is done. the other side is not far behind. attach them to the door panels, and done! reassemble the interior, and move on to other projects with the car.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/70177abf.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/42206367.jpg)


Why no arm rests?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 24, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;199713
Why no arm rests?
Quote from: gumby;199385
when i got the car one of the arm rest pads was missing, both arm rests were busted, and half the screws were missing. since i am not retainin the power locks, i jus threw the armrests in the dumpster.

i didnt wanna hunt down new arm rests, pay money for them, restore them if needed......
since im not using the power locks, i dont see a need to keep the buttons in the doors....
im left handed so i drive with at least my left hand on the wheel, no arm rests needed on the door....

etc. etc.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 25, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
Quote from: gumby;199728

im left handed


ANOTHER LEFTY?! jesus christ. you guys are everywhere.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: thunderjet302 on January 26, 2008, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: gumby;199728
i didnt wanna hunt down new arm rests, pay money for them, restore them if needed......
since im not using the power locks, i dont see a need to keep the buttons in the doors....
im left handed so i drive with at least my left hand on the wheel, no arm rests needed on the door....

etc. etc.


Geesh I had two raven ones sitting that I gave to a guy in the Chicagoland T-bird club. I didn't know you need some or I would had let you have 'em for free:hick:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 26, 2008, 02:27:44 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;199995
Geesh I had two raven ones sitting that I gave to a guy in the Chicagoland T-bird club. I didn't know you need some or I would had let you have 'em for free:hick:

well im glad they went to someone who wanted them and will use them.

i wouldnt have.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: booksix on January 26, 2008, 08:51:12 PM
Gumby, I first have to say all your different projects for your 'bird are amazing!!  Especially that IRS.  SO jealous.

But everyone keeps saying how great the gauges look and I just can't disagree more.  It's functional and you did a good job for what it is, but I just have to wonder why you spent time simply screwing some aluminum to your dash when you could have spent slightly more time filling the same openings with ABS plastic sheets and then cutting your gauge holes out for a super clean and pro looking interior.  I guess it's not all that common for people to do plastic work but it's really easy, you should look into it...  I think it'd pull you gauge clusters up to the level you have everything else for that beautiful car at!  :D :burnout: :D

Oh, and if this is just the way you like it ignore me!!  I've just been playing with some ABS work lately and thought I'd share...  I think it's really cool how easy it is to work with!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 26, 2008, 09:35:38 PM
after you finish buildin your ABS panels, what do you do to make them look pretty? filler/paint? vinyl decals?
i could mold the aluminum in and do the same to make it look all pretty if i wanted. i dont.

i built the panels this way for a few reasons. i have access to the tools and materials, it works, its simple, and i think it looks good.

my car is not beautiful, it is functional; these panels follow the theme.

oh, and there arent any screws in them ;)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: booksix on January 27, 2008, 12:10:50 PM
That's cool, if that's how your taste more power to you!!  :D  I didn't mean to trash it or anything.  I just noticed people on here are usually very blunt with there opinions and I like that.

I actually think (from what I've seen) your car IS beautiful!  Maybe not 100% in the normal sense, but the time you have in it and the way it's going to function is beautiful!

I guess I'm just more of a "make it look like it was put there by Ford" guy.  As far as the finishing, I'm still playing with it.  Faux finish painting, overlays (Aerobird says he's got some good materials for that)... idk, we'll see...  maybe I won't even pull it off!  LOL  that would suck!


Oh, hahaha...  rivets! My bad!  :punchballs:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 27, 2008, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: booksix;200231
I guess I'm just more of a "make it look like it was put there by Ford" guy.


ive built a few vehicles that way as well. the effort to build this car that way wouldnt make it any faster or handle any better, since those are the primary goals of this build.
Title: maybe I missed it?
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2008, 01:52:34 PM
Gumby, what material are you using for the delete panels?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 27, 2008, 01:53:15 PM
.060" T6 aluminum
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2008, 02:19:10 PM
Nice cuts, very clean.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on January 27, 2008, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;200260
Nice cuts, very clean.

thanks

proper tools make it fairly simple. stomp shear, beverly shear, rotex punch, and a good selection of files.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Ether947 on January 27, 2008, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;199885
ANOTHER LEFTY?! jesus christ. you guys are everywhere.

Yes! Yes we are.
Title: lemme see...
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: gumby;200261

proper tools make it fairly simple. stomp shear, beverly shear, rotex punch, and a good selection of files.


I think I've got all that.  Which is to say, the guys at the CNC shop, where I spend loads of money,  have that.  The closest I personally get to that level of work is in my imagination.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: booksix on January 27, 2008, 10:41:05 PM
Yeah, and I definitely have NONE of those!  LOL  I guess it is also somewhat true you tend to work with what you can work with!

I was just looking at your battery pics.  Did you get a hold down on it?  I was curious what you used...
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 02, 2008, 03:33:59 PM
booksix, the tie down is just an old "H" top from a summit battery box kit and some j-hooks thru the trunk floor. ill snag some pics of it when i have it all installed.

the interior is comin back together halfway decent
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/9eb6fb2c.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/02798f88.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/7debe6a8.jpg)

and my car has HEADLIGHTS!! kinda....
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/e1855763.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/696fe071.jpg)

i propped my new lenses up in the holes with some wal*mart sacks jus to see what it looked like, as i dont have my housings to put them on yet. the corners and lenses are miles better than what i got with the car
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/ade1faa1.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/DSCF1742.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on February 02, 2008, 07:43:03 PM
The doors look sweet.  Only problem I see is there's too much sheet metal on the center dash and console area, you need some more gauges.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 04, 2008, 07:35:31 PM
lil bits at a time. pulled the drivers kick panel back out today so i could install a dead pedal.
while i was messin with the parkin brake lever to make sure i didnt get in my own way, i remembered that i hadnt hooked the cables up to the calipers yet. i popped the rear wheels off and pulled on each cable to make sure they werent frozen, then hooked em up to the calipers. test and everything worked, but when i released the pedal the drivers cable didnt release. got a slow cable on that side i guess. gonna try to lube it up see if that helps...
while the wheels were off i measured for my rear sway bar endlinks, gonna build those tomorrow.

heres a pic of my new dead pedal. i was gonna try to pull it a lil further from the floor, more even with the clutch pedal, but there is really only one good place to mount it under the panel. two holes, a lil tpuppies of the kick panel, and done!
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/67e14546.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 07, 2008, 08:31:55 PM
picture update. i picked up my new intercooler tonight

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/c1b5c6b6.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/7ef722ab.jpg)

the core is 10.5"x 17.75"x 2"
i will be moddin the inlet tank to replace the duals with a singe that matches the outlet side. then i will mount it up in the bumper, over the top of the openings in the bumper cover.

also finished up my rear sway bar endlinks last night. cute lil things....

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/7027fbd8.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 13, 2008, 07:43:10 PM
Quote from: booksix;200370
I was just looking at your battery pics.  Did you get a hold down on it?  I was curious what you used...

here ya go.

built a tray to set the battery in
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/6de27cdf.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/7d1b9a6e.jpg)

the jury is still out on the current tie down. i will probly be re-engineering this part of my setup before the car ever goes on track. the summit piece is not up to the task, IMO.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/76c6c157.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 28, 2008, 09:41:02 PM
can you feel the motivation??!!!?!?!?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/10c56998.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/13f704c1.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/10d9da31.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/08509bec.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/86bfd880.jpg)

should be gettin some tubing delivered tomorrow to go with the couplers and clamps. :D
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: fordguy545 on February 28, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
nice work!!  I love the way it looks dropped down that far.  I may end up doing that to mine, but it bottoms out enough as it is.  What is your plan for this car?  Also what turbo you running or planning on. j/w
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 28, 2008, 10:15:16 PM
mine would not be this low w/o correctin the geometry. one cure for bottomin out is higher spring rates.
the car will be used for a summer beater, autoX, and open track.
gonna shake everything down with the IHI for now, swap to a junkyard hybrid, after that...who knows...
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daminc on February 28, 2008, 10:27:38 PM
Gumby, get rid of that rust while your in there. Its freaking me out.
I have nightmares of that stuff now. lol
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: YouAreABus on February 29, 2008, 05:04:39 PM
Gumby, I like what you're doing with the intercooler.  I had that idea as well and was wondering anyone if else had tried it.  I also thought about doing a v-mount set up with the intercooler and the rad, like this: http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/power-enterprise-wrx-sti-vmount-intercooler-pi-2580.html?image=0&osCsid=55545498ea9db8992ab4c2fe7d01fb8c or this http://www.knightsports.co.jp/catalog/pict/v-mout-003.jpg
  I'm also digging how you're using the hood scoop holes as heat extractors.  Keep up the good work, and keep the progress pics comming!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on February 29, 2008, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: YouAreABus;207008
I'm also digging how you're using the hood scoop holes as heat extractors.
i was wonderin if anyone caught that ;) i hope they work....wont know till i get to drive it



found a couple boxes on the porch today

3" exhaust tubing
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/2aeb648b.jpg)

2.5" IC tubing
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/8891d094.jpg)

4" elbow for my custom upper intake
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/8f2c3a2a.jpg)

modded my IC to single inlet this afternoon as well
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/4fd8d92e.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/380afb9a.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/acaea4d8.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on February 29, 2008, 10:43:18 PM
You sir are a artist, and that is one of the baddest TC's ever!! I'm glad to have contributed a very small part to that car!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on March 13, 2008, 06:28:35 PM
modded my steering wheel adapter cause it put the wheel too close to me. while i was buildin i went ahead and offset the wheel similar to the stock TC offset.
before, to show how deep the supplied adapter was:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/9eb6fb2c.jpg)
new adapter:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/841a2cfa.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/84457bed.jpg)

got the brackets roughed out and the IC mounted, just need to add a couple gussets, a bridge to mount the secondary latch for the hood, then finish weld it
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/bbd36ea0.jpg)

and here is the progress on the exhaust:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/34a65075.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/2439e336.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/91273e09.jpg)

:burnout:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: V8Demon on March 13, 2008, 06:45:50 PM
Did your car have cruise control and are you planning on keeping it?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on March 13, 2008, 06:50:06 PM
most of my cruise components found the trash can a long time ago
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 21, 2008, 06:28:41 PM
progress has been a lil slow, but i am still progressing.

one IC pipe is finished
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170002.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170003.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170006.jpg)

the other side is half done; waitin on me to finish the new upper intake.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170003-1.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170002-1.jpg)

tacked up and test fit
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4210001.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4210002.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4210005.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4210003.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on April 21, 2008, 07:16:16 PM
Wow, that's alot of IC tubing.

You mounting the TB out on the end of that elbow?  I guess getting back a bit of plenum volume?


Work faster ;)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 21, 2008, 07:22:41 PM
yeah, with the IC bottom mounted, it takes a bit more tube to get out there than my last FMIC setup. i hope my BOV is up to the task...

i am gonna cut the intake back a bit, the TB will be pretty much over top the p/s pump. yes, im tryin to regain a bit of volume i lost due to the height of the STB. that is a 4" elbow.
if i had to do it again, id probly go with 3.5"; tighter CLR and would match the  a lil nicer.


Quote from: Chuck W;215097
Work faster ;)
im tryin, im tryin. :crazy:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on April 21, 2008, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: gumby;215085

the other side is half done; waitin on me to finish the new upper intake.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170003-1.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4170002-1.jpg)


Ha, that is a helluva interpretation of a rotated upper.  :burnout: Have you considered using two sections of pipe, one tee'd into the other, so that you've got a vertical pipe feeding the lower intake? 

I don't know enough about fluid dynamics.  Shoulda paid more attention in school.

Are you planning on discharging the IC coolant flow through the hood scoops?  If so, do you have something planned to help ejection?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 21, 2008, 10:11:08 PM
if i tee'd two sections of tube together the air would hafta make a hard 90. from what i understand, air doesnt like that. my short radius is pretty hard as it is right now, not that i know anything manifold design....im just building to my packaging restraints for the time being.

i wont know if the wickers i built over the scoops do anything until i can drive it.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on April 21, 2008, 10:23:44 PM
Quote from: gumby;215142
if i tee'd two sections of tube together the air would hafta make a hard 90. from what i understand, air doesnt like that. my short radius is pretty hard as it is right now, not that i know anything manifold design....im just building to my packaging restraints for the time being.


Like I mentioned earlier, I'm certainly not an expert on aerodynamics, but I've read and have been told that air has a way of sometimes smoothing out the bumps.  For example, a closed tailgate doesn't create drag for the pickup truck.  I didn't know if there's method behind the madness or madness behind the method.

Quote
i wont know if the wickers i built over the scoops do anything until i can drive it.


Have you posted pics of those?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 21, 2008, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;215143

Have you posted pics of those?


yup (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showpost.php?p=199385&postcount=38") :shakeass:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on April 21, 2008, 10:44:12 PM
Yeah, okay, the idea is for the lip on each piece to cause a venturi effect? 

Are you planning on building a anything to route the air to them, or is the idea to clear the engine compartment?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 21, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
the lip(wicker) should produce a low pressure over the opening if the aero from the nose/hood doesnt push the air right past the wickers to begin with. no ducting, just lookin for alternate uses of the holes in the hood from the TMIC.

if they work, so be it. if not ill find a smooth hood.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on April 21, 2008, 11:06:09 PM
Okay, thanks. 

Are you planning on building anything around the IC?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 22, 2008, 06:23:08 AM
not right now. gonna see how this setup works first.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on April 22, 2008, 05:21:00 PM
Well hurry up dammit! 

Seriously though, looks good.  I'm excited to see what you're doing.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 22, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
here is some more intake work. welded the bottom  on and tacked on the TB  for another test fit.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4220001.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4220002.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4220013.jpg)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4220010.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4220009.jpg)

it is comin along nicely. i am thinkin about runnin a bead along the inside edge so i can sand it all smooth. still need to finish weld the TB , add some vacuum ports, and weld on a couple tabs before i can call it done.

and heres a couple shots of my youngest gear head, he turned one last month.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/Rachel%20and%20Joshua/P4220003.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/Rachel%20and%20Joshua/P4220004.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/Rachel%20and%20Joshua/P4220005.jpg)
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 27, 2008, 09:42:40 PM
ok, for the first time in 1yr 10mos, i put all six lights in the header panel!!
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4270006.jpg)

foglights??
we dont need no stinkin foglights....how bout some nice brake duct scoops instead?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4270003.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4270002.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4270001.jpg)

also finished up my hood vents
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4270008.jpg)

intake is all welded up. gonna add a couple vacuum ports this week and bolt it on so i can finish the other IC pipe.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on April 28, 2008, 08:10:35 AM
It'll be cool to see this thing finally running around.

I like the cooling ducts.  I need to look at something along those lines as well...eventually :p
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on April 29, 2008, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;216115
It'll be cool to see this thing finally running around.

youre tellin me! its gettin soooo close...

intake is DONE! installed and plumbed. all i need to do is get a couple 5/32" t's for a couple vacuum lines and extend the TPS and IAC wires.
i think i will add an additional throttle return spring; the cruise lever looks like a perfect spot to attach it.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4290006.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4290005.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P4290008.jpg)

next up, IC to TB tube...the list is shrinking. :mullet:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 06, 2008, 09:54:18 PM
IC to TB tube is finished, and BOV installed.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P5060005.jpg)


workin on lots of lil things here and there to get all the loose ends tied up
ball joint cotter pins installed
fuel filter changed
speedo gear ordered
one belt in hand, other on order
found the heater hose i need
etc. etc.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on May 06, 2008, 10:01:44 PM
No upgrade to bigger TB??
looks  good man!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 06, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: daboss351;217566
No upgrade to bigger TB??


nope. ive got three of these, and none others. at least until i get my head ported, i see no need to change the TB.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on May 06, 2008, 10:09:11 PM
makes sense! that car is gonna be sooo freaking sweet
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: HAVI on May 06, 2008, 10:16:24 PM
I see I'm not the only Guinness fanatic!!  Keep up the good work.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daminc on May 06, 2008, 10:32:11 PM
That is some nice plumbing you've made there.
Very impressive I must say.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: SillyMan on May 09, 2008, 12:32:32 AM
Wow That is one awesomley ambitious project!  I really love the IRS!
Cant' wait to see it finished!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 09, 2008, 01:11:30 AM
For some reason, and I have no idea why, I had it in my mind you were doing a 4.6 swap.  Can I interest you in a swedish accent for that four pot?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 09, 2008, 06:34:53 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;218004
For some reason, and I have no idea why, I had it in my mind you were doing a 4.6 swap.
1badbird has an IRS and is doing a 4.6 swap....maybe you were thinkin of him? have you driven your car with the IRS swap yet?

Quote from: t3skidoo;218004
Can I interest you in a swedish accent for that four pot?
the thought has crossed my mind, and it may be a possibility in the future.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 09, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Technically, yes I've driven it but not enough to get a feel for it beyond knowing the MM spring choice is too stiff for me.

The last of of the suspension work is getting done today - w00t! -  SFCs, Chuck's crossbraces, pads to the rear subframe, torque boxes, and misc detail work. 

They're also going to verify the brake master cylinder is functioning properly.    It's either that or the adj rod is too long, in either case, the car should be drivable next week.  I'll keep you posted.

As for the Volvo stuff, one of the guys on the list lives near me and we've been working on some things for the swap.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 09, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
very cool. definitely keep me updated on both!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 10, 2008, 09:37:49 PM
the exhaust system routing is finalized, and the tubes are all welded up.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P5100002.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P5100004.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/P5100001.jpg)

i built the hangers tonight, and marked them out on the tubing. all that left to finish the exhaust is to pull everything back off, weld the hangers on, and paint the welded areas.

where did i put that list.....
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: HAVI on May 10, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
boy, it doesn't leave ya much room for exhaust does it?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 10, 2008, 09:46:51 PM
3" pipe take up quite a bit of space :mullet:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 10, 2008, 09:48:00 PM
Is that as far as you're going with the exhaust pipe(s)?  I might have to copy you on that.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 10, 2008, 09:55:38 PM
yup, thats the end. i dont generally run tailpipes on my stuff.

if you are gonna copy it, all i bought new was 4 mandrel 45's w/5" legs, and that was enough to get from the turbo to the swedged transition you see in the pics.
recycled parts included a 2.5" inlet to 3" adapter ball  at the turbo(thanks chuck), about 18" of straight 3" pipe and a dynomax ultraflow 6" round ler, plus the turndown.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 10, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
Sweet!  Less is more, esp when it comes to weight and cost.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 15, 2008, 05:23:36 PM
heres another lil part i fabbed up today. "cold air" inlet pipe.

its a simple 3" mandrel 90 poked thru, and bolted to, the inner fender placing the filter outside the engine bay.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/1b1682c2.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/1fd49c82.jpg)

the exhaust is 100% complete and on the car
the drivers side fender liner has been installed for the first time in nearly two years
if i could manage to remember to bring home the rivet gun....i could put my antenna block off plate on the passenger fender, and now that the air inlet is done i can reinstall that fender liner as well.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: DVP on May 15, 2008, 05:35:15 PM
Vary Niice!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 17, 2008, 11:19:21 PM
it lives.




that is all. :shakeass:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on May 17, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
no vids!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 17, 2008, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: daboss351;219495
no vids!!


Yeah, you could at least run a mic from the computer to the tailpipe and give us a listen.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on May 18, 2008, 12:09:51 AM
Yay!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Tbird232ci on May 18, 2008, 07:48:28 AM
F'in right!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: V8Demon on May 18, 2008, 09:27:02 AM
:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :roxor: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 22, 2008, 07:15:54 AM
scaled and aligned the car lastnight. i must say, i am in love with the results of this build. feels great to be in a tbird again, and a turboford to boot. :burnout:

car weighs 3369 with 170lbs of ballast in the drivers seat and half a tank of gas. f/r was 52/48 IIRC, and we got the cross perfect at 50% with one small tweak of the front coils.

the alignment went fairly easily using a set of strings and a machinist rule. for some reason i seem to be a bit short on neg. camber in the front. one side is -.75 and the other is -1.0 and they are both maxed out.....i expected more than that with this setup. front toe is 0. rear camber is set to -1.5, and rear toe is 1/16th in.

drives awesome! now i can start tweakin all the lil things; brake bias, boost level, etc. things i couldnt adjust w/o being able to get some real drive time with it.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on May 22, 2008, 07:51:05 AM
Pretty good weight and distribution numbers for a street-driven Tbird.  Mine weighs about the same and the F/R is slightly better than mine.  I bet the IRS weight helps you there.

Did the brake issue pop up again after we talked?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 22, 2008, 12:24:21 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;220194
Pretty good weight and distribution numbers for a street-driven Tbird.  Mine weighs about the same and the F/R is slightly better than mine.  I bet the IRS weight helps you there.

3199 just met my goal of 3200 for this stage of the project. i was happy to see that. the two biggest changes i made wrt the f/r ratio were the IRS and the tubular kmember, so it was nice to see that prove out as well.
Quote from: Chuck W;220194

Did the brake issue pop up again after we talked?

it did. i drove it again with the same result, got it home and gutted the MC. cleaned everything up, and put it back together. ran great all day yesterday w/o issue, then late last night it stuck again. freed it up, then it went no pedal on me......time for a new MC. rolled the dice and lost. ;)


any ideas on my front camber, or lack thereof?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on May 22, 2008, 01:48:31 PM
awesome!!! vids!!
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: Chuck W on May 22, 2008, 04:04:02 PM
I'm at 53/47 currently.  I don't think it would take much to swing it further.

Sucks about the MC, but at least it's good to know that's what the problem is and you don't have to chase it around any more.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 23, 2008, 12:51:47 AM
Excellent job on the weight.  Yours appears to be about 50lb lighter than mine, but I haven't scaled it yet.

What spring rates are you running, and are those stock a/s bars?

Last question (for now), any clue as to how the I/C setup is working?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: gumby on May 23, 2008, 06:33:19 AM
400lb c/o in front on cobra bilsteins
cobraR conventional rears(750lb) with cobra bilsteins
TC front bar
stock cobra rear bar

the motor stays nice and cool, so i ASSuME the IC is workin good too, but i currently havent collected any hard data to back that up.
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: t3skidoo on May 23, 2008, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: gumby;220346
400lb c/o in front on cobra bilsteins
cobraR conventional rears(750lb) with cobra bilsteins
TC front bar
stock cobra rear bar

the motor stays nice and cool, so i ASSuME the IC is workin good too, but i currently havent collected any hard data to back that up.


Thanks.  I know you've posted that previously, but couldn't find it when browsing. 

How do the spring rates match up? 

Do you have something to measure the I/C temps?
Title: winter resurrection progression
Post by: daboss351 on December 13, 2009, 06:42:18 PM
What happened with this build??? Gumby still around??