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Title: Police Interceptor?
Post by: P71 on December 04, 2007, 10:58:01 AM
I found a line on a 01 CV PI patrol car (unmarked) for $2500.

Worth taking a shot at it? Then my DD could tow...
Title: Police Interceptor?
Post by: capitlj on December 04, 2007, 11:53:05 AM
They are fun to flog thats not a bad price and you know it was well mainatined.  Finding parts can be a pain sometimes.
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Post by: oldraven on December 04, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
You're better off finding a nice old granny's Crown Vic. There was nothing special about PI's, other than an oil cooler, and they have the hardest miles you can imagine on them. I can't see how buying an ex cop car is ever a good idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Interceptor#Comparison_with_civilian_counterpart
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Post by: Beau on December 04, 2007, 01:36:42 PM
Also comes with a 120mph speedo, and recalibrated shift points, and an aluminum driveshaft.

Really nothing fancy, or anything that can't be added to any other CV-GM-TC.

With that being said, I'd like one. Tinted windows, add a couple of antennas to the trunk, and some personalized plates, and you'd have "respect" on the roads lol.

Except for the rear gearing, they're not very much faster than a civvie CV.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 04, 2007, 01:53:46 PM
I'd rather find a Crown Vic LX or Sport. Nicer interior and wouldn't have been beat on like cop cars. As you know, I'm a cop car mechanic, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that when those cars are decommissioned they're well and truly used up.
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Post by: V8Demon on December 04, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
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Also comes with a 120mph speedo, and recalibrated shift points, and an aluminum driveshaft.


Ours have a 140 speedo...  Also the 06+ models have the electronic throttle.

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Problems and criticism
Following the criticism of fires following rear-end collisions, 2005 and later model Police Interceptors now come with an optional automatic fire suppression system and special "trunk packs" designed to help prevent trunk contents from piercing the fuel tank in a collision. Each agency must pay an additional $150 for the trunk packs. For a more detailed discussion of the fuel tank leakage concerns that prompted these changes, see Ford Crown Victoria.

There were also some problems with early 2003 Police Interceptors. The newly designed steel wheels would rust prematurely, and the rack and pinion steering units would fail early (sub-10k miles). This was not limited to the Police Interceptor; some 2004 Mercury Marauders were also affected. A recent recall (04M05) affects the steel wheels used on 2003-2005 Police Interceptors.


Other areas of concern are th u-joints.  They go.  Often.  Also the window and power seat switches.
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Post by: P71 on December 04, 2007, 04:16:57 PM
Well it's $2500 vs. $5000+ for a civvie CV with similar miles.

I'm quickly running out of car options...
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Post by: P71 on December 04, 2007, 04:35:28 PM
Did I mention that I have permanent Military plates? Might add to the "mystique" of it...

:hick:
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Post by: Beau on December 04, 2007, 06:01:11 PM
Myself, I'd go for it..not the least of which you'll be saving 2500 over the other one.

A rebuild of the engine and trans and slap a super on it...then you could have a one-of-none military pursuit special. lol :hick:
(you know ya wanna!)
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Post by: 5.0 tbird on December 04, 2007, 06:05:22 PM
2001 was the first year for the PI heads on Crown vics so that would be a good thing.
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Post by: Sick88Tbird on December 04, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: capitlj;191038
...and you know it was well mainatined...



Not always true...I worked at a reputable shop that maintained two different township's police vehicles...the one only had the oil on their cars changed every 15,000 miles...the were wondering why they were losing motors in cars that were only 2yrs old.  The other was pretty decent on oil changes but didn't give a  about any other problems with the cars.
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Post by: P71 on December 04, 2007, 08:31:48 PM
Found a Sgt or Detective one for $2500. 2001, power seats, cruise, dark blue, p71, 119K miles.

Going to go look at it Thursday...
Title: Police Interceptor?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 04, 2007, 08:36:00 PM
A detective car might not be so bad. Contrary to popular belief, the highway cars are the worst. People think that highway cars are better because in any other used car that would be true (they're always advertised as "highway miles"), but with a highway police car it spends its life either idling or at full throttle. A detective car is less likely to be full of holes from equipment mounting, too.
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Post by: billboehm on December 04, 2007, 08:40:50 PM
so... there's no factory cop cars with nitrous and a supercharger like on black sheep???  :punchballs:
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Post by: Carpimp1987 on December 04, 2007, 09:19:39 PM
Holes=weight reduction right? Might look good with a chrome set of Cobra Rs and get a 2001 and up if its got the PI heads.
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Post by: P71 on December 04, 2007, 10:59:47 PM
Yeah Carm, definitely a "light usage" car. No spotlight (or hole), has the full-width seats (so no center radio stack), no light bar, no nothing really. And it has some of the hard-to-find on a P71 options, like the power seats and cruise on the steering wheel. Came out of a small township in Oregon, but in OSP colors (Dark Blue on Blue).

I'm looking at it tomorrow or Thursday dependent on my finals...
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Post by: cougarcragar on December 04, 2007, 11:24:23 PM
I would never buy a decommissioned police car.
Aside from the mechanical wear, could you imagine everybody slowing down to the speed limit when you got behind them?
That would drive me up the wall.

I agree with Carm - find one of the Sport model Crown Vics with the cool wheels, monochromatic paint scheme, etc.
Turn 'er into a sleeper.
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Post by: capitlj on December 05, 2007, 12:19:41 AM
There is a guy in town here that has one put a set of lers, chrome wheels, and tinted the windows, on it and i love it.  Do it especially since you dont have to plug that hole in the A pillar.
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Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on December 05, 2007, 12:40:43 AM
One of the funnest cars I ever owned was a ex-police car.  A 1969 Dodge (or maybe a Fury?) 440, with 3.55 gears and four doors.  That thing would burn rubber for a block.  It would not be in a straight line either, go back and forth over both lanes with two tires burning.  Smoke everywhere.

The best part was that I got it for $95 because it was running bad, pinged like crazy.  But after pouring a gallon of water down the intake and doing a bunch of burn-offs it came right back to life and ran great.  After I ran the hell out of it I sold it for $600.  Kind of wished I had it today.

I would doubt that the 2001 Vic would be quite the same.

My co-worker purchased a Vic but he could not get over how big it was.  Ended up selling it and buying a Volvo. :mad:

TED
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 05, 2007, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;191114
Yeah Carm, definitely a "light usage" car. No spotlight (or hole), has the full-width seats (so no center radio stack), no light bar, no nothing really. And it has some of the hard-to-find on a P71 options, like the power seats and cruise on the steering wheel. Came out of a small township in Oregon, but in OSP colors (Dark Blue on Blue).

I'm looking at it tomorrow or Thursday dependent on my finals...

Cruise and power seats are found in all RCMP Crown Vics. I had always thought they were standard in the P71's. Very few RCMP cars have the spotlight, too - RCMP is all about safety, and if at some point some officer was injured by something it isn't used again, even if it wasn't the true cause of the injury. We actually had to start removing the armrests from the equipment consoles because an officer had his hip injured in a major crash. That was not a popular policy among the mounties...
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Post by: Innes on December 05, 2007, 05:24:03 PM
Not to mention the ant my car theory how many times these cars aren’t warmed up maybe even on a cold day and a priority comes up they don’t exactly let the car warm up. Get in it start it and floor it I just cringe what that does to a motor actually they entire drive line.

Now to bring up the obvious, good advice don’t buy one from a city have you scene the NYPD cars.

I believe theses munilities poorly maintain them because if it breaks its under warranty and after 2-4 years they get replaced anyway.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on December 05, 2007, 05:27:45 PM
Quote from: Innes;191221
Not to mention the ant my car theory how many times these cars aren’t warmed up maybe even on a cold day and a priority comes up they don’t exactly let the car warm up. Get in it start it and floor it I just cringe what that does to a motor actually they entire drive line.

Now to bring up the obvious, good advice don’t buy one from a city have you scene the NYPD cars.

I believe theses munilities poorly maintain them because if it breaks its under warranty and after 2-4 years they get replaced anyway.



You should see the Chicago Police Vics :hick:
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Post by: Innes on December 05, 2007, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;191223
You should see the Chicago Police Vics :hick:



Probably the same I remember a few years ago some had bullet holes in them. You don’t see that any more. Not that they don’t get shot at but they actually fix that now.

What else oh heres some;
 Wire ties holding bumpers on
  Fenders completely bashed in
  Bumpers partially cut to make the car operational
  Hubcaps what’s that
  Before the cages on the caprices the seats would break and a milk create would hold it up
  The caprices would rot out holes in the floor don’t know how that happen w/a car only a few years old
  Forgot this one graffiti
  I could go on and on but I’m sure any major big city drives the same junk.
Title: Police Interceptor?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 05, 2007, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: Innes;191236
Probably the same I remember a few years ago some had bullet holes in them. You don’t see that any more. Not that they don’t get shot at but they actually fix that now.

What else oh heres some;
 Wire ties holding bumpers on
  Fenders completely bashed in
  Bumpers partially cut to make the car operational
  Hubcaps what’s that
  Before the cages on the caprices the seats would break and a milk create would hold it up
  The caprices would rot out holes in the floor don’t know how that happen w/a car only a few years old
  Forgot this one graffiti
  I could go on and on but I’m sure any major big city drives the same junk.

You think that's bad, you should see how the cars look before going to auction :hick: While stripping cars down I've found crack, crack pipes, hash, weed, a full marijuana plant in the trunk of one, bottles of pills, knives, bullets, a gun (mounties were quite happy to get that one back!) and just about everything else you could imagine being hastily stuffed under the back seat by a nervous criminal...

Oh, and Carpimp - when I said they're full of holes I didn't mean speed holes. I meant screw holes from mounting radios, light bars, antennas, radar units, etc...
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Post by: thunderjet302 on December 05, 2007, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: Innes;191236
Probably the same I remember a few years ago some had bullet holes in them. You don’t see that any more. Not that they don’t get shot at but they actually fix that now.

What else oh heres some;
 Wire ties holding bumpers on
  Fenders completely bashed in
  Bumpers partially cut to make the car operational
  Hubcaps what’s that
  Before the cages on the caprices the seats would break and a milk create would hold it up
  The caprices would rot out holes in the floor don’t know how that happen w/a car only a few years old
  Forgot this one graffiti
  I could go on and on but I’m sure any major big city drives the same junk.


They aren't that bad. Atleast fleet management gets rid of the dents, bullet holes, and replaces bumpers before they let the cars out again:hick:  Oh and Chicago buys all it's Vics with the little chrome center caps, no full wheel covers.
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Post by: Sick88Tbird on December 05, 2007, 09:20:40 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;191252
...Oh and Chicago buys all it's Vics with the little chrome center caps, no full wheel covers.



I'm tempted to do a 5-lug conversion so I can run those giant heavy 16" steel wheels with those dog-dish center caps! lol....hell, my Sport looks black in most lighting anyway...badass!
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Post by: Sduneman3 on December 06, 2007, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: Sick88Tbird;191276
I'm tempted to do a 5-lug conversion so I can run those giant heavy 16" steel wheels with those dog-dish center caps! lol....hell, my Sport looks black in most lighting anyway...badass!



I was actually thinking about doing that with my car.