So on my first post I commented on how bad the winter salt was in the western NY area. Most of you were quite surprised at how much salt gets used, and how many months out of the year it's on the road.
To make a long story short. I was driving to Cleveland on saturday to meet up with flstci71 on his parts transport. when I realized that the roads were recently paved in NY. and you'll never guess what color they were. You got it. WHITE
Thats the official start of NY cars starting to rust for the season.
So, if its like any other year, and 7 out of 10 years it snows on mother's day, that would make the official salt count at 6 months out of the year. So if you think about it. My car shouldn't look as good as it does for being a daily driver in Buffalo NY
Yes, as some of you figured. I had a little to much time on my hands to write about salt. :cougarsmily:
Have you guys already started to get snow? Or are they just "pre-salting" or something for whenever it starts?
I have serious thoughts about moving south when Im older, or finding out which state in this area of the country doesnt dump so much you hear it crunching under the tires! :mad:
Snow on Mother's Day, huh? Well thats a problem as you said 6 months out of the year, salt on the road for that long is gonna be hell on any car. People must keep cars for 5 or 6 years out there!
ZondaC12 are you still driving the 20th as a DD? You NEED to get it off the road if they salt that much in NY.:hick: In Chicago the roads go white in the begining of December and stay that way till about mid March. Then we get a good rain and it washes all the salt away. Sometimes it's nice to have a big lake next to you moderating the temps in th spring time:D
Oh ZondaC12 you need to get an MN-12 Cougar as a DD. That way you can still drive a Cat but it's not a FOX so who cares if winter fvcks it up :hick: (That's why I got a 95 Bird).
Well thats why the last 2 winters have SUCKED for me. I used it as a DD for all of my senior year of hs. I swore that would be the last winter. It was alright, just a little perforation in the lower right rear qtr panel. Had my cousin whos runnin a bodyshop take care of that recently.
Last winter I took it out probably on somewhere between 5 and 10 occassions when I was home from school for the weekend. 2 MAYBE 3 of which there was actual snow on the ground. That was enough to make the qtr panel significantly worse and start some very visible bubbling on the top of the front left fender, where the metal is straight up and down. This surface was perfect the fall before.
Mom wont let me get a beater. Too many cars at the house. It just wont happen. She has however agreed to let me use her '02 explorer (got an 07 civic in june to save on gas, looks like a good move!) when she doesnt need it, this winter. So last winter SHOULD be THE last winter it will ever see. Maybe by next winter I can convince her to let me get something else, take this off the road for the winter and put that on.
The underside of my car is pretty good. From maybe the driver's door forward its great. In back the usual brown axle and frame members but nothing beyond surface. At some point Ill post up pics of the latest find which is BAD. About 1/2" at its widest, 3" long, HOLE in my floorpan, right below the driver's right heel. I wanted to smash somehting when I found this recently. Ive decided Im going to try and patch it up. Ive got sheetmetal, and my cousin told me to get some urethane glue, which is exactly what he used with the qtr panel. Apparently a lot of new car panels are assembled that way he says.
So the thing will be alright, but it cant be used in the winter ANYmore. I see the other fenders starting, and not to mention yet ANOTHER issue...drivers door bottom lookin bad. No perforation but on its way. Gonna clean that up soon.
Somehow Im guessing this car has not seen 20 winters. Maybe half that. Dad always borrowed my grandparents' chevy conversion van for somewhat decent traction. :hick:
Yeah as we all know salt is HELL on these things, Ive found that out firsthand. I almost wish I hadn't found out the production numbers of this car and that I could speed up my 5.0. At one time I did NOT care about this car, I wanted only the '38 to be in my possession for my entire life. So its a bad situation, but I can't help it. I now love it way too much so I gotta figure something out so I can keep this car from needing a full restoration someday when it's not a DD. :(
There was snow fri near the PA. border and a little in Niagara falls but nothing accumulated in the falls. Pa. had enough snow to plow parking lots and the roofs were covered with a couple inches. But theres no salt in PA. the roads were black when I crossed the line.
My E-250 and Monte are both 2003s. and theres rust on the frame of my van and rear wheel wells of my wife's Monte already. I'll have to fix that before it gets worse.
My cougar started rusting real bad from the mud flaps. and spread like a fever from there. If you look at my pics you can see a rust pattern from the flaps out across the panels.
I live on long island they use more sand then salt though in NYC they use to much salt sounds the same as by you, thank god it don’t snow that much.
When I go upstate not that far (by you) but I noticed it was mostly sand I guess by you its different.
No salt here yet but it's coming soon.
I'm surprised it hasn't snowed here yet but I figure it's not too far off.
-funny, down here we use salt on our food.....:hick:
Buffalo and Niagara falls are bad for salt. most of the neighboring towns use sand mixed with salt. The I-90 from PA. to NYC is heavily salted also.
Its even worse for me. because I live right in front of the town garage. A salter goes past my house every 10 min. But my road is always clear, even during the worst storms.
You should see Michigan. They don't know what plows are, all they can spell is s-a-l-t.
What in the world is a snow plow????? why do you put salt on the roads???? why do your winters last longer than 2 1/2 months?????? LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL, sorry guys love it down here......
Right. Ill never spend more than $300 on a car from michigan for that reason. Im sooo lucky my TC has no frame rot that I can tell but the shadow has been a detroit car its whole life and the frame rail in the rear is rusted through nasty. Its an 80,000 mile car with no body rust. The underbody actually looks really clean except theres a few spots of rust.
No snow?--- EVER--What do you use to make a snowman?
There's nothing like leaving the house in the morning. Taking a good breath of air when its -10 out and feeling the hair in your nose shatter from the cold. lol.
And then you proceed to find your car in the driveway (it's somewhere, you remember getting out of it last night) so you grab your trusty shovel and head to the big snow hill in the driveway and you start to dig.
DiG DiG DiG DiG DiG and dig (there's the door)
you crawl in and pray the battery isn't dead. You turn the key and hear RRRRR RRRRRR RRRRR and it just has enough charge to start the car.----VICTORY you scream. But thats just the start, because you now have to dig the car out. But thats OK because it will take the same amount of time for the car to warm up.
1 car battery a year $59.99
Winter in Buffalo ---Priceless.
daminc, what the hell makes you think that is fun ?????? the worst winter we had was some snow flurries that melted as soon as they hit the ground. now that is cold for us.
keep it up your g people off:beatyoass:
That's the reason I moved back to Texas, screw the cold and the snow and the salt and the stupid snow plow drivers that knock over your mail box, Oh the X-wife too. If I see another snowman, I'm knocking it's head off....sorry for the rant, feel better now....Going outside now, can you say shorts and T-shirt?...hahahahahaha.
Yeah dammit!!! I'd kill for a winter like that.
Yeah but if it snows where you live you learn to become a drift car driver, know how to drive out of a skid, and you can do doughnuts in a front wheel drive car :hick:
Yea, specially when you have huge parking lots to play in, specially if you work 2nd shift :burnout:
It's kinda nice here in Iowa, it's a mix of salt on the highways and sand in town. Plus, I live down the street from the hospital, so my street is always clean.
I suppose this is the case for more than just myself, but I remember the days when the snow was a lot more fun than it is now. Living in Wyoming, there is always the jokes about walking to school in 5 feet of snow (uphill both ways, of course!), white-out conditions, 40 below zero being a warm day...lol.
One of my favorite snow activities when I was a teen was when a bunch of us would get some old hood off a car, attach it with a tow rope to somebody's truck, and take of thru the fields of snow with anywhere from 4-6 of us riding on the upside down hood. Yes...we're all "red" here too...even in the nasty North, lol. A regular sled just wouldn't do, we had to put our own twist on it.
Back to the original post, we don't use salt here, thankfully. But we use a lot...and I mean A LOT of sand. Which is good, but has it's bad points too. With how the wind blows here at times, the windshields start looking pretty sandblasted.
Believe me. after a month of snow, It gets old fast. Esp. when you work outside in it. winter is great if you like the snow. a lot of my friends and family have moved south because of the weather. personally me and my wife like the snow and the seasons.
We also have an advantage living here. My wife works from home and i'm self employed. so i don't have to go to work if the weather is bad. We could stay in the house for weeks if we wanted.
Christmas would never be right without snow. thats how we were raised. a lot of you never get to experience things like that in life. like when i go to arizona and my shoes stick to the road. What's so great about that. It's too fricken hot (but it's a dry heat I hear).
Its all about where your raised. I can deal with snow.
I couldn't deal with hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, flooding, droughts.
I have to say, that if you don't live in NY than you have more balls than me to deal with that stuff. My biggest worry is where to pile my snow in winter
When my buddy from AZ teases me about MN winters, I always tell him, "We have 3 months of the year when it's too cold and you have 8 months of the year when it's too hot, do the math!." Over 80 is bad for me, over 90 is unbearable and a 100, well, that's just crazy. I could never live down south. I spent a summer in Atlanta and I'll take a MN winter over a southern summer ANY time. Like daminc said, it's all what you're used to....
well now there are good and bads to the winter. like all our theme parks down south florida are open year round, our dragstrips are too. as a technician i couldn't handle all the rust on the cars. i did some snooping around , i think most of all the members are northerners !!!!! yet the car condition section is better down here. only surface rust on most of them.
In keeping with the original post ---NY ROAD SALT--
the salt will be flying tonight
We're getting lake effect snow tonight
Lake Effect Snow ?????? the salt will be flying ????? huh ???? must be a yankee thing. oh yeah is it true that most places up there don't serve sweet tea ???? do you mix your runny eggs and sauage with grits all together then use the toast to soak up the yoke, and ketsup on hashbrowns.. now i'm hungry for denny's or waffle house.
what's a grit?
Haven't you heard about the ongoing cholesterol problem in the US? lol
lol,lol,lol, well okay so there are some differences....
One of my favorite movies.
Yor honna tha 2 yuetts-
Excuse me but what’s a yuet.
A wait daminc wants to keep it on the original post NY road salt
na this is getting fun
lol lol lol lol
I couldn't help myself. that setup was too good to be true
Bad news. It didn't snow. now i have to put up the christmas lights. no excuses now. anyone want to help? its only 26 feet up.
when your done show us some pics
Last Year's winter =:/
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/Vantage08/dirty.jpg)
Vantage08-- thats bird abuse, you must be closer to NY.
It looks like you have fun winters too.
We should all post some pics of what winter looks like where we all live. I'm kinda interested to see winter across the U.S. is like.
Jan. and feb. would be good months to compare.
Yah i'm about 45 min NW of Philly..it's gets nipy here lol.
Hey it looks like Chicago in Jan :hick:
Salt is EVIL :evilgrin:
My 88 T-bird is sitting in a garage under a car cover till April so it doesn't look like you salt flavored T-bird ;)
Well, it was our first official snow of the year.
----------Pics are under winter 2007-------------
Also there are bad pics of my christmas lights. the camera doesn't pick up good in low lighting situations. it was the first Canon powershot ever made. almost 7 years old now. back when 2 megapixels were out of everyones grasp.
anyway got snow covered pics of the back, side yard and house.
Pics were taken 7:00 am sunday, before it melted
I can't link the pictures from my site to this post because there flash.
I'll putting them on my ftp server also from now on so i can link them
As usual here's the site link.
http://www.daminc.myjalbum.net/ (http://"http://www.daminc.myjalbum.net/")
I think this is it Guys
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_2963.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_2962.jpg)
Tonight is supposed to be our real first snow into tomorrow and more on Tues..should be fun! I get to test out the FWD lol.
Freezing rain and brisk winds are what I woke up to this morning.
When I let my dog out to go do her thing, she almost busted her butt on the porch.
Usually we have one or 2 good heavy snows, and several rounds of ice/freezing rain.
Tornadoes aren't so bad, if one becomes educated on safety, and takes a few spotter classes.
Although I generally like the weather here, the humidity in the summer can be pretty suffocating, all in all, it's not that bad.
I remember one time when I was with my dad in Minnesota, the fuel in the tanks of his semi gelled up, had to have a tow to a shop where we spent roughly 3 days while they pumped the tanks, purged lines, injectors, etc. Was an unplanned trip, and didn't get winterized fuel, blah blah.
They dump enough salt on the roads here to preserve mummies, but it causes cancer for Birds and Cats :hick:
Myself...give me the salt on my fries!
Salt is coming to Long Island tomorrow night. The freezing mix is coming...
It looks like we're just going to skate by with freezing rain/rain (or **ice**), but it's like always--north and west of the city, snow, south and east of the city, mix/rain. In my case I'm southwest along the river, so it's a shoot. The best forecast for me is usually to look at both Philly and Wilmington and split the difference.
This morning we got about 5" of snow It's time to break out the old 1982 toro. Can't believe it still runs. Still starts on the first pull. I'll get some pics later