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Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: 420ttam420 on November 04, 2007, 06:54:15 PM
anyone got any good links where to find a good 5.0ho with everything i need for the swap.....no good local junkyards or good availability of a 5.0ho with low miles and not a lemon motor.......
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: vinnietbird on November 04, 2007, 07:07:57 PM
If you have a 5.0 already,just do the H.O upgrade (cam,headers,intake),if you have a 3.8,and want to swap,you can buy a used 5.0 from anything for cheap and build it up for minimal cost.Ebay always has H.O engines on there for bidding.Good luck.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: 420ttam420 on November 04, 2007, 07:18:18 PM
cant do that because the ammount of down time the car will have.....
id rather have motor outside of car for alittle while to save get some upgrades i might want to do before engine is inside of car.....
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: 5.0willgo on November 04, 2007, 07:32:42 PM
Consider something like a Jasper motor? Yeah, they aren't as cheap as a good used replacement but it is all reconditioned and what not and has a warrenty. Plus they can do performance mods to your specs.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Innes on November 04, 2007, 09:40:49 PM
http://www.corral.net and go to classifieds and part for 5.0/5.8winsor
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: thunderjet302 on November 05, 2007, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: 5.0willgo;186216
Consider something like a Jasper motor? Yeah, they aren't as cheap as a good used replacement but it is all reconditioned and what not and has a warrenty. Plus they can do performance mods to your specs.


I go with a reputable local machiene shop over Jasper. Most of the time you'll get a better quality product.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: billboehm on November 07, 2007, 08:31:15 PM
there's a junk yard here in utah that has a 5.0 HO in a 91 cougar LS. obviously not original. i could pull all the parts you want and ship them to you if you want. or the whole motor. obviously very pricy.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Carpimp1987 on November 07, 2007, 08:55:30 PM
Does it have to be a 5.0? just askin'

Find you a 460??? its not cheap but at least someone makes headers and motor mounts. Scrool down to the bottom of the page.

http://www.critesrestoration.com/mustang.htm
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: grutinator on November 07, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
Quote from: billboehm;186615
there's a junk yard here in utah that has a 5.0 HO in a 91 cougar LS. obviously not original. i could pull all the parts you want and ship them to you if you want. or the whole motor. obviously very pricy.



91-97's got the H.O. treatment
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: billboehm on November 07, 2007, 09:48:42 PM
it is a 5.0 HO and i had no idea that they would've put one in an LS.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Drewstang on November 07, 2007, 10:25:30 PM
http://www.mpsautosalvage.com

Nothing but Mustangs with HO motors.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: billboehm on November 07, 2007, 10:39:44 PM
which is better? cobra or ho?
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Drewstang on November 07, 2007, 11:17:37 PM
Cobra. Has better heads and upper/lower intake.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Johnny Cougar on November 08, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: billboehm
there's a junk yard here in utah that has a 5.0 HO in a 91 cougar LS. obviously not original. i could pull all the parts you want and ship them to you if you want. or the whole motor. obviously very pricy.


5.0 HO was an option in 91-93 Cougars, regardless of LS or XR7.  LS and XR7 were basically trim levels.

Quote from: grutinator;186629
91-97's got the H.O. treatment


Nope.  91-93 had an optional 5.0 HO.  94-97 had no 5.0.  They ran with an optional SOHC 4.6.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: grutinator on November 08, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
aw , youre right, i knew that but my brain farted. my point being, 5.0 HO was in option in cougars, just select years
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: billboehm on November 08, 2007, 08:39:18 PM
We concede to your greatness oh wise one! :bowdown:
Title: 5.0-h/o
Post by: larrycar78 on December 02, 2007, 08:49:06 PM
I bought mt 88 H/O on ebay for $650.00 + shipping.  It had 37000 original miles and runs great. I kept the speed density and up- graded to a 65 mm TB and headers. You will need to get the matching computer and wiring harness. Keep checking ebay.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: larrycar78 on December 02, 2007, 08:53:34 PM
I bought my H/O on ebay for $650. It had 37000 orig miles and runs great. Also, you will have to get the matching computer. Keep checking ebay.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: billboehm on December 04, 2007, 08:58:17 PM
quick question. was there ever a 4.6 sohc HO?
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Beau on December 04, 2007, 09:18:58 PM
no...there are the 4.6 with 2 cams, the 4 cam Cobra version, and now the 3 valve versions, but none were HO....that died along with the 5.0
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Ether947 on December 04, 2007, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: billboehm;191084
quick question. was there ever a 4.6 sohc HO?

There's a PI (Performance Improvement/Power Improved... whatever) version. It's kinda an HO... AFAIK it has intake and heads... but don't quote me on that. I'm not all that into the SOHC version. Dual cams FTW!!! :)

I decided to consult the wiki before posting. Looks like it got heads, cam and intake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang#1999.E2.80.932004

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A redesigned model came in 1999 where many of the soft lines of the previous model were gone, but the car still rode on the SN-95 platform. The Mustang GT's power increased to 260 hp (194 kW) at 5250 rpm and 302 ft·lbf (409 N•m) of torque at 4000 rpm via the new "Power Improved" (PI) heads, cams, and intake manifold. The new 16-valve SOHC 4.6 L engine exhibited characteristics associated with a performance engine when compared to the performance behavior of earlier 4.6 L engines. Mustangs now featured a returnless type fuel system utilizing a PCM-guided fuel rail pressure sensor to regulate pressure.
Title: online place to buy 5.0HO?
Post by: Beau on December 04, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
That was basically because Ford's advertised horsepower amount was wrong.
There was a recall, and these were the pieces that were put on.
Hence the term "PI"...I guess in a way, it could be said they were a "higher output"..but were not officially named as such.

"The V8 remained untouched, while the Cobra claimed 320 hp (239 kW). Ford responded to complaints by issuing a recall on the 1999 model Cobras, which were given computer, intake, and exhaust improvements, to match the original claim of 320 hp.
As a result, Cobra production was halted in 2000 (except the limited Cobra R) while the company was developing new parts for the missing power. The changes were incorporated into the 2001 Cobra, which could achieve 1/4 mile times in the mid-13 second range."

"As a "modular" family, the heads on the earlier 4.6 L SOHC motors can be exchanged with "Power Improved" heads as offered via the Ford Parts Catalog. Due to a different combustion chamber and pistons, the compression increased to over 10:1 and subsequently required premium fuel to inhibit detonation (knocking)."

This is from that same wiki link