Fox T-Bird/Cougar Forums

General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: LJS30 on October 23, 2007, 09:11:43 PM

Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 23, 2007, 09:11:43 PM
My mother wants me to restore her 83 Cougar instead of getting her something new in the late 90's.  What should I especially consider when restoring this car?  Any tips and stories to share?
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: mercury-man on October 23, 2007, 10:18:40 PM
What color is her cougar and what condition is it in now like any rust or does it need a new paint job or are talking about the interior. A little more info is needed. LOL
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: mywifeskitty on October 23, 2007, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: LJS30;184201
What should I especially consider when restoring this car? 


from what eric told me at catjam, the 83 has many year specific interior trim parts.... knee panels, dash, and center console to name a few....  he also said that the colors might be hard to match too....  most of the underhood and drivetrain parts are shared with the rest of the 4-eye foxes....  i guess it just depends on how "original" you want it to be
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: ipsd on October 24, 2007, 09:16:28 AM
I thought 83-84 had the same interior less some padding in the 83. They added padding to the knee area so the bird/coug's would do better in the crash test.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: EricCoolCats on October 24, 2007, 09:23:31 AM
I think you'd need to define "restore" a little better. Like, would you just fix it up so it appears as stock? Or are you restoring for show quality? If all the car needs is the typical rust repair/repaint and some odds and ends, then that's one thing. Digging up NOS parts, completely different scenario.

The 1983's do have unique parts all over. Hood hinges, wiper nozzles, console, dash/radio panels, door panels, front turn signal lenses, etc. Finding some of those parts used will be difficult unless you happen upon someone here that has them.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: Chuck W on October 24, 2007, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: ipsd;184305
I thought 83-84 had the same interior less some padding in the 83. They added padding to the knee area so the bird/coug's would do better in the crash test.


Are you talking about on the dashes?

Uh..both my '83's had/have the padded glove box and under-steering wheel padded dashes.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: EricCoolCats on October 24, 2007, 10:21:00 AM
There was a difference in the padding, though...my guess is the thickness, or density of the foam. I have 1984 part numbers for all my dash padding. Something definitely got revised from 1983.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 24, 2007, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: mercury-man;184221
What color is her cougar and what condition is it in now like any rust or does it need a new paint job or are talking about the interior. A little more info is needed. LOL


She wants me to get the following done:

1. Engine Rebuild
2. Tranny Rebuild
3. New Coils
4. Rebuild AC system
5. Fix broken interior parts (interior is mostly complete and in average condition for it's age.)
6. New tires
7. New Paint Job

(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1168/4007052/18148574/285027164.jpg)

(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1168/4007052/18148574/285027159.jpg)

(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1168/4007052/18148574/285027152.jpg)
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: CougarSE on October 24, 2007, 10:57:33 PM
Well for starters I would put the correct front end on the car.  Its not a Tbird.  Having owned an 83 I can attest to the little differences.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 24, 2007, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;184470
Well for starters I would put the correct front end on the car.  Its not a Tbird.  Having owned an 83 I can attest to the little differences.


I noticed that a long time ago when we purchased the car.  You mean to tell me it has been in an accident?  Someone put a T-Bird front end on the  thing?  I'm a Mark VII guy so this car is some what stange to me.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: EricCoolCats on October 24, 2007, 11:13:04 PM
Yeah, it's definitely a T-Bird front end. That doesn't necessarily mean the front end was wrecked...someone might have just liked the T-Bird's nose better. But you could look for some signs of damage up front there.

It's easiest to start with the interior parts, to be honest. Paint will probably be the last thing on the list, if things around here hold true LOL. Tires are easy to replace. So are the suspension parts. The A/C system is a great spring project. That just leaves the motor and trans. How is it running now? Any issues with the trans?
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 24, 2007, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;184474
Yeah, it's definitely a T-Bird front end. That doesn't necessarily mean the front end was wrecked...someone might have just liked the T-Bird's nose better. But you could look for some signs of damage up front there.

It's easiest to start with the interior parts, to be honest. Paint will probably be the last thing on the list, if things around here hold true LOL. Tires are easy to replace. So are the suspension parts. The A/C system is a great spring project. That just leaves the motor and trans. How is it running now? Any issues with the trans?


The interior is pretty much intact except for several components, one being critical.  That being the driver side inner door handle which I just bought off another member of this board.  The handle for the hood release is busted, while the horn cap just broke recently.  The interior is really in solid condition.  As for the motor, it leaks everywhere and has lost what little power it did have off the factory.  The transmission does well but leaks pretty good.  The front end has almost been completely rebuilt while the AC system needs a complete overhaul.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: fordman3 on October 25, 2007, 01:18:41 PM
LJS30,
I don't know how close we are geographically, but I've got an entire front cap minus hood from an '86 XR7.  It's even got the foglight cutouts.  Colors' not exact, but it is a dark red, and you're going to repaint anyway.  I've also got several odd and end red interior parts if you are looking for any.  Just thought you might be interested.

On the other hand, again if we aren't too far apart from each other, if you change your mind and decide to let the car go, I'd be interested.  Just a thought.

Fordman3
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: mywifeskitty on October 25, 2007, 08:14:13 PM
i bought all new springs for the cat last year.... i goth them from carquest....  i used the variable? rate cargo springs for the rear and regular ones up front (just be sure to state engine size)... they rid really well, and cost me about $200 for all 4....  i have a thread about it here somewhere...........


http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=8816
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: mywifeskitty on October 25, 2007, 08:17:35 PM
as for the interior..... yes , i painted a lot of mine..... i used the vinyl paint at advance and o'reillys... it's like $6 a can, and i used 3 cans for the dash, knee pad, glove box, and center console pieces.... that thread is...........


http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=10085


the interior pics start on page 3......  i used three or four coats to try to keep it thick, that's probably why i went through 3 cans.... it goes on pretty smoothe, and the only place showing wear so far is the center console cover (i keep my elbow planted there).... otherwise, after about a year the rest of it is holding up rather well.....  i used the flat black color because they don't have a grey to match
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 26, 2007, 12:06:09 AM
Quote from: fordman3;184555
LJS30,
I don't know how close we are geographically, but I've got an entire front cap minus hood from an '86 XR7.  It's even got the foglight cutouts.  Colors' not exact, but it is a dark red, and you're going to repaint anyway.  I've also got several odd and end red interior parts if you are looking for any.  Just thought you might be interested.

On the other hand, again if we aren't too far apart from each other, if you change your mind and decide to let the car go, I'd be interested.  Just a thought.

Fordman3


Well I think my mom is happy with the front cap it has currently.  However, let me see what interior parts we may need.  I live in Riverside, CA, so that gives you an idea where I am at.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 26, 2007, 12:23:10 AM
Nice links you guys.  How do those coil springs ride?  That is a very cheap price.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: atariman on October 26, 2007, 12:38:34 AM
As for advice in rebuilding....take your time (of course;)) It looks to be an easy restore so have fun with it. Do a good job and you and your mom won't regret it.
Brian
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: screaming306 on October 26, 2007, 08:50:31 AM
when i stared to restore my 84 i set out to give it what i think the car should have as an option, the v-8 4 bbl carb. option. with all the creature comforts too. i pulled out every wire and hoses and lines. detailed the underside . (you can see your face in the trans tunnel) really it is up to you as what you want, how you want the car to represnt it self. remember to us these are great cars, to everyone else, their just t-birds and cougars...blah, blah, blah...take your time and enjoy it.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on October 26, 2007, 01:50:14 PM
Excellent input up to this point guys.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: Punisher on November 12, 2007, 01:53:39 AM
hey, how far is riverside from san-diego?
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on November 12, 2007, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Punisher;187146
hey, how far is riverside from san-diego?


Sorry if I took awhile to respond.  I've been swamped at work.  I am about 1hr 1/2 from the Tijuana border.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: Punisher on November 12, 2007, 03:17:25 PM
Im in downtown san diego, so your probably about an hour away from me then.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on November 12, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Punisher;187230
Im in downtown san diego, so your probably about an hour away from me then.


Interesting, very interesting.  How was your resto on your 83?
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: Punisher on November 12, 2007, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: LJS30;187235
Interesting, very interesting.  How was your resto on your 83?




im in the process of doing that as we speak.  Its VERY hard to find parts for, lol.  but hopefully i can get it done one day.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: LJS30 on November 13, 2007, 12:34:30 AM
Quote from: Punisher;187309
im in the process of doing that as we speak.  Its VERY hard to find parts for, lol.  but hopefully i can get it done one day.


I hear you man.  I think I'm going to get the transmission rebuilt then get my mom some new leaf springs.
Title: Restoring 83 Cougar (Tips, experiences)
Post by: mcb82gt on November 23, 2007, 07:05:55 PM
I think he is talking about the T-bird grille in it.