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Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: BCA on October 22, 2007, 05:53:01 PM
Ford Australia will reportedly not be producing a left-hand-drive version of the next-generation Falcon...

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6219331/australia/no-falconry-for-us-ford-kills-left-hand-drive-falcon/index.html

Brent
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Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: xjeffs on October 22, 2007, 06:08:07 PM
I was drooling over the G8 just today.  If Ford ignores me, I'll ignore them.

The G8 is EXACTLY what I'm looking for.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: V8Demon on October 22, 2007, 10:19:41 PM
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$100 million Australian was invested by the government of Australia and the state of Victoria, but the money was instead spent on setting up production of the Focus for export sales.


If Ford REALLY wants to compete in the compact market, then why isn't this sold in North America?

http://www.ford.co.za/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1163400671887&pagename=FMCSA%2FDFYPage%2FDefault&c=DFYPage


222 HP / 236 TQ  out of a 2.5 Duratec (the same motor that started life in the Mystique)
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: daboss351 on October 22, 2007, 10:22:41 PM
I dont know those look way better then our focus though!
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: jncocowboyx on October 22, 2007, 10:29:05 PM
ford is being gay.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 22, 2007, 11:41:55 PM
Read the rest of the article. Ford is not spending any money modifying the new Falcon for LHD, but the NEXT replacement for the Falcon, due in 2012 (which is only four model years away) is being engineered for LHD. Ford has bigger fish to fry right now than a limited-market high performance four-doors. Like making money. The economics just don't add up right now: Expensive gas, looming CAFE increases, weak US dollar, a tanking US economy...

Perhaps when Ford rights their ship they'll make niche vehicles, but right now they've got to focus (no pun intended) on the bread and butter. Remember: Even with the 300, Magnum, and Charger, DC still lost a buttload of money last year because their mainstream offerings were ...
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: xr7cat on October 22, 2007, 11:41:57 PM
I think I will just import a left handed version.

That would make everyone jealous.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: BCA on October 23, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;184020
If Ford REALLY wants to compete in the compact market, then why isn't this sold in North America?

http://www.ford.co.za/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1163400671887&pagename=FMCSA%2FDFYPage%2FDefault&c=DFYPage


I think their Focus is far and away a better looking car than the "new" one we have here even in their base trim.
It looks like a newer cleaner version of our "old" Focus styling wise.
I just can't get my arms around the new Focus' styling, it looks like they went backwards instead of forwards in the design.

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222 HP / 236 TQ  out of a 2.5 Duratec (the same motor that started life in the Mystique)


Do you think they started with the 2.0L and added a cylinder to it?

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: bhazard on October 23, 2007, 11:41:34 AM
Yeah that focus has a 5 cyl.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: stuntmannick on October 23, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
in the direction they are going right now (not just their lineup) they are screwed.  But then again, the future of this economy is very questionable.

In 2002 you could buy an ounce of gold for $310.  Guess what you'd have to pay today for that ounce?  $763 - and that number is skyrocketing by the day.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: BCA on October 23, 2007, 02:36:11 PM
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Yeah that focus has a 5 cyl.


While eating my lunch and thinking about this Focus ST having a Turbocharged 2.5L inline 5 and thinking that it seemed very familiar...I had a light bulb moment. I couldn't see Ford spending the necessary cash needed to make one specific 5 cylinder turbocharged engine just for use in one specialty car and sure enough:

Focus ST
In 2005 Ford unveiled a hot hatch version of the Mk 2 Focus. Called Focus ST, and available in either three or five door hatchback variant, the car uses the same T5 engine from the Volvo S40/V50 T5 models, a turbocharged 2.5 L 5-cylinder engine producing 225 hp. The Ford Focus Mk 2 ST is also known as the XR5 Turbo in the Australian and New Zealand market, but is sold as a five door hatchback only.


So it uses an existing Volvo powerplant which also makes sense because after some more digging, I found that it shares the same platform as Volvo C30 which is also powered by the 2.5 turbo 5.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on October 23, 2007, 05:16:13 PM
That focus is ass ugly and if they wanted to do anything about the looming SRT4's,Colbolt ss's and R32 PolksBritish cigarettegens and such they should have released the 300 horse 2.0 i4 turbocharged focus that never made it past prototyping.

i have a motortrend that said this (http://"http://www.fantasycars.com/1/News/FordFocus/fordfocus.html") was set for the united states as well.Also the motor trend said that it was going to be an awd. Not that that focus looks any aesthetically better.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: x3117 on October 24, 2007, 05:25:53 PM
I'm pretty disappointed that the Falcon isn't coming stateside. I love the look of the car, and Ford could definitely use more rwd cars here.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on October 24, 2007, 06:49:19 PM
LOL finally signed up Nick. Now get the  supercoupe fixed!!!!!!

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I'm pretty disappointed that the Falcon isn't coming stateside. I love the look of the car, and Ford could definitely use more rwd cars here.

If you look at it from an Industry stand point its a poor choice to bring a RWD falcon stateside the only vehicles left that are RWD are sports cars. Hell if i remember correctly even the Vics were changed over to FWD at some point after 2000.
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 24, 2007, 07:11:07 PM
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LOL finally signed up Nick. Now get the  supercoupe fixed!!!!!!



If you look at it from an Industry stand point its a poor choice to bring a RWD falcon stateside the only vehicles left that are RWD are sports cars. Hell if i remember correctly even the Vics were changed over to FWD at some point after 2000.
FWD Vics? That'd be something to see...

No, the Vic is RWD. Always was. RWD is making a comeback, not just in sports cars, but Ford has got to get the bread-and-butter selling before playing around in less lucrative markets. As we all know that V6 Mustangs pay for the development of V8 models, so do the bread-and-butter cars finance everything else. For a long time the F-150 was that bread-and-butter, but times are changing with $3 gas..
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on October 24, 2007, 09:33:22 PM
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So it uses an existing Volvo powerplant which also makes sense because after some more digging, I found that it shares the same platform as Volvo C30 which is also powered by the 2.5 turbo 5.

Brent
:cougarsmily:

as a side note volvo had a focusish hatch at last years Detroit NAINAS i personally liked it. yea the c30 is exactly what i saw. I know the Vic always was but ford was talking about a possibility of a FWD vic after 2000, i was just not sure if they did it.

(http://media.paultan.org/paris2006/c30paris1.jpg)
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: V8Demon on October 25, 2007, 07:33:23 AM
I actually saw my first C30 last week. A little old lady with blue hair was at the helm of the black steed.

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In 2002 you could buy an ounce of gold for $310. Guess what you'd have to pay today for that ounce? $763


Which is still less than it was at it's height in the '80's
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: BCA on October 25, 2007, 09:15:41 AM
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as a side note volvo had a focusish hatch at last years Detroit NAINAS i personally liked it. yea the c30 is exactly what i saw.


I don't think the C30 looks too bad either...from the front and side view. The rear end on the other hand...I think they could have done much better.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: stuntmannick on October 25, 2007, 10:45:02 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;184517

Which is still less than it was at it's height in the '80's


If it was oil that caused it in the early '80's, what is driving the price up this time?

http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html (http://"http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html")
Title: No G8 challenger from Ford afterall.
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 25, 2007, 01:48:48 PM
It isn't oil, it's inflation. It takes more dollars to buy an ounce of gold because the dollar isn't worth as much. You'll notice in those charts that during the first oil crunch of the mid 70's gold hardly moved at all. In the late 70's and early 80's inflation was sky-high, and so was the price of gold. Perhaps as a coincidence, it was also during that time that the Canadian dollar was worth more than the US dollar. History really does have a way of repeating itself....