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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: Crusher on October 16, 2007, 11:07:23 PM

Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 16, 2007, 11:07:23 PM
Hey guys,


 My stock exhaust just fell off...  They want over 200 bucks for a new stock exhaust.  I'm not gonna put out the money if I can get a nice exhaust system so..

I'm looking what will fit on my 1986 Mercury Cougar LS * Switched to a full consule + floor shifter for exhaust room *.

THe kind of set-up I want...

Long tube headers to cats to x-pipe to lers

By law u have to have cats in my state so I want to know if they make a sport cat or something nice..

Could someone link me to the parts which would fit on my cougar so I could buy it and get this back on the road.


Thank you
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: vinnietbird on October 17, 2007, 06:53:50 AM
For ease of installation and still have a good function,I'd use a set of shorty headers,then finish up the exhaust with cats,etc.You can purchase X-pipes with built in cats (etter flowing than a factory piece)from different companies.My X-Pipe (off road,no cats) came from Pypes (they make them with cats as well),and went on perfectly the first time,and weighed nothing compared to the factory Mark VII H-Pipe I was using.The mid pipes will have to be lengthened a little due to the length of our cars as opposed to the Mustangs (Use Mustang exhaust parts).My tailpipes are also made for a 5.0 Stang.Had to add a few inches to them as well,but the fit was great.Good luck.
Title: Exhuast
Post by: screaming306 on October 17, 2007, 08:36:05 AM
i bought the h-pipe from jegs for 178.00 asked for the one that fits the 87-93 5.0 lx stang.  when i got it....NO PROBLEMS at all fit first time, NO cats either .
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Innes on October 17, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
Go w/shortys headers there just easier and less of a headache and less problems especially w/your auto trans besides though long tubes are better its not that significant to be bothered all mustang exhaust parts should fit. Your only issue should be extending the tail tips about a foot.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: bhazard on October 17, 2007, 12:00:27 PM
Shorty vs Long Tube, I dont think the difference would be much on an SO 5.0.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 17, 2007, 09:21:50 PM
engine is gonna be HOed in Spring after winter, So Should I go long or short tubed?
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: daboss351 on October 17, 2007, 09:30:14 PM
short
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 18, 2007, 12:49:38 AM
Thought everyone told  me to go with long :S Whats the advantage with short or long?
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Haystack on October 18, 2007, 01:23:04 AM
short ones will clear the colum shift and steering linkages easier and you'll only see a couple of hp more with long tubes, along with a $100 or more larger bill...
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: vinnietbird on October 18, 2007, 06:54:33 AM
Like I said above,shorties.They can be had for cheap on Ebay.Factory Stang headers are really cheap.I'm using BBK's.They have been great.no problems,no fitment problems.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 18, 2007, 07:02:35 AM
alright but I changed my column to a floor shifter, so that that linkage isn't in the way :S.  Right now its getto styled with a TC Floor shifter tho, going to get the AOD shifter soon..
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Innes on October 18, 2007, 08:33:35 AM
For a street setup its not worth the aggravation of long tubes another ex. (bottom out hit header) guys can go on. My opinion if you’re looking for HP which every one is put you time and money other place on the veh. You’re only going to miss about 10-15HP and its all on the top end. Street light to street light don’t worry about it.
If its driving you crazy try and fit equal length shortys in but even they might be a problem don’t know anyone on here running them with the AOD
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Sick88Tbird on October 18, 2007, 02:21:14 PM
Longtubes aren't just for top-end...they help boost the torque curve all around...the cheap and easy way is factory HO shorties...I also have a set of those HO shorty headers...if you want them over my long-tubes, they're yours for $20 next time you come down.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: DVP on October 18, 2007, 05:19:33 PM
long tube will not fit without major modding to them and its not worth it from what i have heard.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 18, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
alright then I will just switch to shorties..
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Sick88Tbird on October 19, 2007, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: cougar86_89;183223
long tube will not fit without major modding to them and its not worth it from what i have heard.


Long-tubes fit just fine as long as you don't have column shift...the flowtech headers that I ran on my t-bird just needed a slight dent in the cyl #5 primary where it passed over the stock style motor mounts....the Mac 1 3/4" longtubes on my cougar needed no modifications...the passenger side was a pain in the balls, but it went in...if you need to do "major modification" to a pair of long tube headers to make them fit, then you're doing something wrong.  Both long and short tube headers have their pro's and con's.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: slamedcat on October 19, 2007, 01:05:25 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/slamedcat/S4010074.jpg)

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HED%2D88360&N=700+4294839039+4294908331+4294907842+4294840126+115&autoview=sku

These are designed for our cars and arn't too exspensive.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: cougarman on October 19, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: slamedcat;183347
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/slamedcat/S4010074.jpg)

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HED%2D88360&N=700+4294839039+4294908331+4294907842+4294840126+115&autoview=sku

These are designed for our cars and arn't too exspensive.


Those are the ones I used before, they fit great.:D  :burnout:
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: blu84302 on October 19, 2007, 01:38:28 PM
Yeah I gotta set going on my project.  Haven't got the motor in yet but I'll let you know if they fit.  I got mine from jegs for 100 bucks.

(http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13251&stc=1&d=1190814505.jpg)
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Sick88Tbird on October 19, 2007, 05:35:52 PM
They're so cheap because they're tightly bend 1 1/2" primaries...good for an SO or maybe a stone stock HO, but not much else.  The flowtech's I had on the 'bird were only $149 from advance auto parts and had 1 5/8" primaries...you definitely get what you pay for when it comes to headers.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 19, 2007, 07:15:33 PM
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG9030&N=700+115&autoview=sku these will fit right.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Innes on October 20, 2007, 07:49:31 AM
Quote from: Crusher;183392
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG9030&N=700+115&autoview=sku these will fit right.

That’s what I have and could not get them in I heard there the same as flowtech but not sure I still have them in box some scratch’s and minor rust from long term storage never returned them. If Sick88Tbird saying he got the flowtech in maybe they will fit I think some one else here said they got them to fit a while ago too. Good luck
Other good advice buy some of ChuckW motor Mounts they will help.
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: V8Demon on October 22, 2007, 02:50:44 PM
According to Summit's application chart:
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Automatic Transmission Column Shift = No


I know you went to a floor shifter.  The linkage is all good?  No issues or anything like that?
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Crusher on October 22, 2007, 06:20:10 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;183911
According to Summit's application chart:


I know you went to a floor shifter.  The linkage is all good?  No issues or anything lie that?



Nope i removed all the column shifter linkage.. its ready for the floor linkage and has a lot of room now..
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: Cougar5.0 on October 22, 2007, 07:12:15 PM
What's the fascination with long tubes?
Title: Exhaust Question, Please help
Post by: CougarSE on October 22, 2007, 07:32:11 PM
The jegs long tubes do not fit at all..  I'm pretty sure John got 5 speed ones, they just didn't list them that way.  Go with shorties. 

Also you will have to relocate your fuel filter on the passenger side so a ler will clear.  Its easy and the tubes don't need to be cut.