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Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: JeremyB on October 02, 2007, 07:00:34 PM
Has anyone tried putting surface mount tweeters on the triangular plastic trim piece on the far front piece of the side windows? Just curious.

I would think it would be a better location than putting a set of tweeters in the stock dash location and having a set of 6.5" in the wall, but I am audioally retarded.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: jncocowboyx on October 02, 2007, 07:20:15 PM
i have them in mine. works really well. want me to take a pic?
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: JeremyB on October 02, 2007, 09:00:27 PM
I would appreciate it!
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: nirvanagod on October 02, 2007, 09:05:38 PM
Don't know if it would help, but some of the 96-99 Taurus's (sp?) had tweeters in the location you're wanting to put them in. They "may" be a good source for swapping parts.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: booksix on October 02, 2007, 10:03:39 PM
I was just driving home thinking this same thing...  Tweeter angle is really important (sound direction becomes less important as frequencies plumit) and in these cars it's definitely less than good...

Unfortunately, while I DID have this thought, I don't have much money to buy all the toys...
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: jncocowboyx on October 02, 2007, 10:31:19 PM
(http://usera.imagecave.com/jncocowboyx/19september07001.jpg)
sooo dirty... :hick:
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: ipsd on October 03, 2007, 08:22:24 PM
I put some there in the 93 tempo I had. I sunk them into the plastic piece. The tempo ones are thicker than the bird/coug ones.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: JeremyB on October 03, 2007, 09:07:26 PM
Looks like I'd have to make a fiberglass housing to make it look good.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: Carpimp1987 on October 05, 2007, 02:42:28 PM
i got 2 sets of compnets heres where i mounted mine.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: nirvanagod on October 06, 2007, 08:10:33 PM
I took a couple pics of the tweeter setup that I suggested from the Taurus. Also got some measurements of approximately 6 3/4" wide and 6 1/2" tall. Hopefully this would help in deciding whether or not this would work for an all-in-one, clean install solution.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: booksix on October 07, 2007, 12:13:13 AM
Taurus tweeters look good because they have atleast some angle...  fitment thought, who knows.  I'd like to see it though...

not to dis, but I wouldn't recommend carpimps setup if you want to get the most/best sound quality out of your components.  it's very important that the tweeters point right at you (in the studio, we always make sure the tweeters in our monitors are at ear level and that each side points right at the corresponding ear to maximize the 'sweet spot')  If you want best sound imaging for BOTH seats, I'd get a tweeter that has an 'eyeball' type setup so you can change the angle and point them so their line of sound would meet at average ear level above the center console...  best for drivers seat only (passenger would still be fine), point each tweeter at the corresponding ear...
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: daboss351 on October 07, 2007, 12:48:21 AM
what about the mach series tweeters like in my moms cobra?
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: booksix on October 07, 2007, 10:51:24 AM
that'd be sweet...  I'm big into factory looking stuff (but upgraded) and I've always wanted to put a mach 460 system in my 'bird.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: daboss351 on October 07, 2007, 11:26:27 AM
I got to thinking when this topic came up, they are in generally the same shape as the access covers for the mirrors, and possibly could be made to work but I'm not sure, but I am sure my mom wouldn't let me try ahaha.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: booksix on October 07, 2007, 05:23:13 PM
bummer...  that would have been a good experiment.  Maybe some day, if I see these at a JY I'll pick them up - and a set of junk tbird covers.  It'd actually be pretty easy to combine the two - some cutting, custom abs molding, sanding and paint...  maybe I could sell a couple on here as well....?  :banana:
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: capitlj on October 10, 2007, 10:39:40 PM
I got the eyeball one mounted in my dash in place of the factory speakers and they sound fantastic.
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on October 11, 2007, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;180350
Has anyone tried putting surface mount tweeters on the triangular plastic trim piece on the far front piece of the side windows? Just curious.

I would think it would be a better location than putting a set of tweeters in the stock dash location and having a set of 6.5" in the wall, but I am audioally retarded.


I did this in my wife's Acura several years ago and they are still holding up.  I used a hole saw bit to cut the triangle piece and I had to take the tweeter housing apart to achieve an almost flush mount.

There is very little space between that plastic trim and the mirror bolts and wires.  Rockford Fosgate packaged three different bezels or mounting methods with those tweeters.  I didn't use any of them because they all looked hideous and bulbous.  So I ended up removing some of the plastic housing trim from the tweeter (which wasn't one of the options) and it turned out like you see in the pictures below.  I thought about putting speaker cloth over the whole triangle piece or at least starting from the triangular mold line but never got around to it.  It could be done though and it would look factory.

Thing is, I would never do this again.  Way, way too much brightness/treble, even when turned all the way down with some recordings.  Some CDs sound ok but some were recorded with the higher frequencies over-amplified and the tweeters mounted high bring it out too much.  The only way that I could make this work would be to buy an aftermarket EQ capable of taking the treble down lower than her current source unit.

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(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1773/tweeterln7.th.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tweeterln7.jpg)

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6696/tweeter2kx1.th.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tweeter2kx1.jpg)
Title: Surface mount tweeters up front?
Post by: flipnbird on October 12, 2007, 07:54:08 AM
good spot for me was in the window pillar, nice set of polk audio's sittin ear level