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Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 24, 2007, 01:55:08 PM
Incase anyone wnats to know the best head for their combo. Sticky maybe?


(http://sbftech.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34.0;attach=5;image)
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: Innes on September 24, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
very good better and easy to read and alot of heads
i like the over stock %
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: JeremyB on September 24, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
Here's a harder to read, not ready for prime time spreadsheet I created a few months ago.

Most of the data is taken from manufacturer websites, so take them with a grain of salt.

http://griffshp.com/belchja/forums/heads.xls (http://"http://griffshp.com/belchja/forums/heads.xls")
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: 347Thunder on September 24, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
185 AFR all the way
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: Carpimp1987 on September 24, 2007, 05:17:15 PM
i agree with the AFR 185s what would be a nice Cam to go with it?

I could get a used set of 165s installed for $1000 which those also have good flow #'s so not 100% sure if i will get 185s or 165s but i have made up my mind to get AFR heads.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on September 25, 2007, 07:29:36 AM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;178336
i agree with the AFR 185s what would be a nice Cam to go with it?

I could get a used set of 165s installed for $1000 which those also have good flow #'s so not 100% sure if i will get 185s or 165s but i have made up my mind to get AFR heads.


The better heads are all going to be approx the same THROUGH A EXHAUST SYSTEM... Exactly the reason I decided to keep my TFs...
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 19, 2007, 11:51:23 AM
Linkey is not working now so I uploaded the chart :D
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: V8Demon on December 19, 2007, 12:30:23 PM
SBF is making many of their threads so that you have to log in to view them.  A shame for those who do not wish to sign up on yet another forum because the place is a goldmine of information.  If I'm not mistaken those Canfields they have listed aren't even the big ones.....

The intake/exhaust ratio is avg. flow not peak or valve size...
Seems there would be great benefit on the exhaust side of the Twisted Wedge with some porting.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: JeremyB on December 19, 2007, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;193552
Linkey is not working now so I uploaded the chart :D

The E7TE flows are a little low. The others look good.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: EricCoolCats on December 19, 2007, 04:02:20 PM
Quote from: JeremyB
The E7TE flows are a little low. The others look good.

You think maybe the bumps in the E7 exhaust ports restrict them that much? Would be interesting to see the same heads before the bumps and after.

The AFR's are killer indeed. For the money (and yes, I might be a little biased but with good reason...see below) it seems the Canfield heads are perhaps the best bargain, if you're looking purely at airflow. Once you start thinking about $1200+ US for heads, you're in it for the numbers, not the cost. ;)
http://www.canfieldheads.com/sbf_cncc.html

Canfield is about 25 minutes from where I live. When I'm cylinder head shopping I'm definitely going to try to support my local economy (which for me could be Canfield, or TFS, or anything from Summit Racing LOL). Plus, if something ever happens with them, they're just a short drive away. Still...even if you're not local to them, they're a ed good company to deal with.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: Kitz Kat on December 19, 2007, 04:28:53 PM
Thats good info!!!,I'm more than happy with my afr's,over my ported E-7's.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: V8Demon on December 19, 2007, 04:34:11 PM
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it seems the Canfield heads are perhaps the best bargain, if you're looking purely at airflow. Once you start thinking about $1200+ US for heads, you're in it for the numbers, not the cost.
http://www.canfieldheads.com/sbf_cncc.html


The big heads are here:

http://www.canfieldheads.com/sbf_cncp.html

Quote
Racer's Pricing
Bare Cylinder heads with as cast 54/58/65 c.c. combustion chambers, 212/225 c.c. intake runners, Manganese bronze valve guides and cast alloy valve seats. Push rod guide plates included.
 STARTING PRICE:

$ 1,660.00/pair
 

Assembled Cylinder heads with as cast 54/58/65 c.c. combustion chambers, 212/225 c.c. intake runners, Manganese bronze valve guides and cast alloy valve seats, 2.02 stainless steel intake valves, 1.60 stainless steel exhaust valves and 1.44 dia. valve springs. Push rod guide plates included. STARTING PRICE:

$ 2,079.00/pair
 


Keep in mind, those prices are for the 212s not the 225s.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: JeremyB on December 19, 2007, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats;193565
You think maybe the bumps in the E7 exhaust ports restrict them that much? Would be interesting to see the same heads before the bumps and after.

Low compared to other flow results I've seen from the E7TEs on the internets. Using the same sources as that chart, I get an average about 10% higher. Not a huge difference, but as every other case if referenced to it as "% over stock", I thought it was worth mentioning. I can't speak to the E5 flow specs,as I haven't searched for any.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: Kitz Kat on December 19, 2007, 06:25:06 PM
What are the the E-7 flowed thru,stock or after market intakes.
It all makes a difference.Just my intake on it.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: EricCoolCats on December 19, 2007, 08:50:29 PM
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Keep in mind, those prices are for the 212s not the 225s.

Let's just say I have a few connections there. Pricing and specs won't be an issue. ;)
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: JeremyB on December 20, 2007, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: kitzdnm;193579
What are the the E-7 flowed thru,stock or after market intakes.

All of the flows are sans intakes - head only.
Title: 5.0 cylinder head flow chart
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 21, 2007, 02:48:30 PM
What surprised me is how close the flow is between the GT40P head and the Windsor Jr. head. I was originally going to use Windsor Jr. heads on my engine but when I found out the GT40P heads flowed almost the same (and could be brought up with a bit of porting) I went with the 40Ps. I got brand new GT40P heads (never bolted to an engine) for far less than brand new Windsor Jr.s would have cost me:D