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Technical => Misc Tech => Topic started by: V8Demon on September 12, 2007, 09:03:58 PM

Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 12, 2007, 09:03:58 PM
My buddy got the car up on his lift today and began the process of swapping my torque converer.  He called me shortly after he started and told me I needed to see this.....

Turns out my transmission crossmember is on it's death bed.  It's cracked about 2 inches to the right of the right hand bolthole going to the trans.  The crack starts at the backside and goes forward about 2/3rds of the way.  Okay.  Next problem.  My headers are DONE.  One of the primaries on the right side rotted clean through and has a hole about 2 inches long by a half an inch wide.  Keep in mind I was under the car about 2 weeks ago for an oil change.  THe header MAY have rotted through before that, but the crossmember's deadly wound is new.

My friend is pretty sure he has the same exact set of headers laying in a garage he rents and that if he still has them, they are in great condition.  He's not 100% though.  If they are not there anymore, then it's time to fab up another custom H-pipe. 

This doesn't upset me too much as I've wanted to quiet the car down some.  I was thinking of the bullet style fiberglass core Magnaflows.....

Another option on the headers.....Someone else I know has Mac shortys and an X-pipe for an SN-95.....other than possible shift linkage problems, are there any other fitment issues as far as those go?
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: nirvanagod on September 12, 2007, 09:59:16 PM
You most likely already know this, but Summit sells new FRPP double hump crossmembers.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 12, 2007, 10:51:00 PM
I run FRPP stainless shorties and a 2.5" Summit H-pipe on mine with no interference so you should be ok.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: 84 Fila on September 13, 2007, 12:03:29 AM
I have the Mac equal lgenth shorties and the 2.5" summit H with no issues. I will say the shifter linkage for a coloum shift is  close though
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: 5.0willgo on September 13, 2007, 08:51:18 AM
I have a double hump crossmember from the '86. I'll be pulling it this weekend so let me know if you want it.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 13, 2007, 03:21:43 PM
Already got the crossmember.  Incidently, my plan exhaust-wise was Mac equal-length shorthies into a Mac H-pipe with lers and then dumps.  Upon fitting the Macs into place the driverside has TONS of room.  The passenger side hits.....I need another 3/4 of an inch to clear and not rub with engine vibrations.  Will the motor mounts brackets and mount points allow me to move over that far or should I just stick on the unequal lengths I have laying around?
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: CougarSE on September 13, 2007, 04:51:40 PM
What exactly ishiznitting?
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 13, 2007, 05:05:34 PM
We got them in.  The #3 tube washiznitting the frame rail.  We unbolted the motor mounts and centered everything.  Looks real nice now!  Now I just have to make a ler decision. 

BTW, once I got the old passenger side header out, I noticed not one, but TWO of the primary tubes were rotted through.
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Post by: Innes on September 13, 2007, 05:49:10 PM
Paul I have a BBK X-pipe brand new in box for long tube headers. If you interested
I still haven’t returned to summit make offer
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=12121
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Post by: V8Demon on September 13, 2007, 06:45:40 PM
Thanks Bill, but no need the shorties and H-pipe are in.  Just need lers and dumps
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: Innes on September 13, 2007, 06:51:51 PM
i have a set of glasspacks w/dumps both 3" built for 90 stang paid $40. at Englishtown last year if you want to look at them.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 13, 2007, 07:24:04 PM
Sounds like a feasible idea........I want the car to be much quieter than before though.  Do you remember how loud it was.  I'm looking for half that volume.  Oh, and absolutely NO FLOWMASTERS!!!!!
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: Innes on September 13, 2007, 08:17:54 PM
Yea your right the only less led it will be is because of the dumps are under the car instead of out the side.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on September 13, 2007, 11:57:49 PM
Flowtech Afterburners. That's what I run. They have a nice tone but are fairly quiet at idle and cruise (nothing that's really annoying). Here's some clips of my car. My car has a cam but it's not as radical as yours so that may affect the sound a bit:hick:

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa33/thunderjet302/?action=view¤t=Tbird.flv

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa33/thunderjet302/?action=view¤t=DCFC0001.flv
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: 84 Fila on September 14, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;176024
We got them in. The #3 tube washiznitting the frame rail. We unbolted the motor mounts and centered everything. Looks real nice now! Now I just have to make a ler decision.
 
BTW, once I got the old passenger side header out, I noticed not one, but TWO of the primary tubes were rotted through.
Here is them installed on mine. my #3 doesn't hit but close
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/Fila/000_2418-1.jpg)
 
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/Fila/000_2352.jpg)
 
Do you have a pic of how bad the last ones were, I'm curious
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 14, 2007, 08:03:40 AM
If you want quiet,install tailpipes.I was running without tails for a couple of months,and the drone was killing me.After I installed the Mustang tails,Nice and quiet,until I mash the gas pedal,then things start to happen.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 14, 2007, 01:21:51 PM
Everything clears now without issue.  Had to cut the right side tab on the motor mount.  Other than that, after we centered the motor there is plenty of room.

I picked up a set of Borla XR1 center inlet/outlet 2.5" lers.  Should sound nice.  Even without them on I must say it sounds good.  The converter is noticeably looser than the one I took out.  I wasn't able to get on the car too hard, but she spins much more freely down low. 

One issue with the H-pipe.  The driver side O2 sensor bung is situated so it would interfere with the shifter linkage.  I'm gonna plug it and put a new one in that doesn't get in the way of anything.
Title: When it rains, it pours.....And now it's a Sun-Shiny Day
Post by: V8Demon on September 18, 2007, 03:10:23 PM
Car Is All Back Together:D

I must say I'm VERY happy with the way it sounds and drives.  A noted improvement.  I can brake stall the converter to 2800 so everything is spot on!  She launches nicely!  Pictures and a sound clip to come a little later tonight!
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Post by: P71 on September 27, 2007, 07:08:24 PM
Excellent! Glad you got it all worked out. I'm especially excited to hear a sound clip.
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Post by: V8Demon on September 27, 2007, 08:59:46 PM
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I'm especially excited to hear a sound clip.


Still aint done that yet.....The wife has decided she needs the camera at work [COLOR="Red"]EVERY  DAY[/COLOR][/I][/U] in case she can put something that happens in her portfolio.