General => User Rides => Topic started by: grutinator on September 03, 2007, 09:07:52 PM
Poll
Question: which would u do?
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Post by: grutinator on September 03, 2007, 09:07:52 PM
i just bought another fox! a bird this time. 1988 ford thunderbird sport. only 68,xxx miles on it. the body is nice, no rust that i saw, paint only really had one spot that should buff out, and no dents. needs front tires and allignment, the headlights arent the clearest either. its not as well optioned as the cougar, and its blue with blue cloth and it has snowflakes on it. no major flaws, pass side window doesnt go down(i think its the regulator, i can hear the motor run), the oil, fuel, and temp gauges work but 'cant be trusted' according to the previous owner. the worst part is i heard a slight lifter knock, nothing major, hopefully i can run some trans fluid through the oil and change it with a little thicker grade and that knock will clear up. all in all im very happy with it. im gonna pick it up on wedsnday so ill be sure to have lots and lots of pictures up then.
heres my biggest question, its just a matter of opinion if u were in my shoes. if u had a 88 xr-7 (more info in sig if u can read it) that has 200,xxx miles on it, both fenders dented and an inner fender/(subframe?) crumpled pretty good, but still plenty of life left in her(driven everyday, plenty of power and shows no signs of breaking) and a bird matching the discription above. which would u drive everyday, and which would u fix up and make into a lil hotrod? im partial to having a badass cat...but im curious as to everyone elses opinions cus im pretty much torn 50-50
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Post by: kingcars on September 03, 2007, 09:11:08 PM
I'd say use the Cat as the DD since it already has dents and dings. If you use the Tbird as a DD, theres a chance of it getting damage too. Sounds like the Tbird's engine could use a going-through anyway. I vote Cat as DD and Tbird as project.
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Post by: Prototype Services on September 03, 2007, 09:13:12 PM
I agree.
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Post by: 84 Fila on September 03, 2007, 09:22:28 PM
x3
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Post by: atariman on September 03, 2007, 10:01:06 PM
Yeah, I voted wrong. Hooray for me. Drive the cat, fix the Bird. brain
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Post by: 1WLD BRD on September 03, 2007, 10:04:32 PM
um yeah, what they said. Lifters "tick", bearings "Knock" Either one is un-desirable. TRUST ME. ;)
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Post by: Clayton on September 03, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
yu. trust me! rod bearings suck and lifters do too. [end sarcasm]
the window deal sounds like the problem I just fixed on my cat. The gear stripped a couple teeth... changed it and re-greased the tracks and it works fine.
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Post by: grutinator on September 03, 2007, 10:35:58 PM
wow, i dint realize it was gonna be so one-sided. i kno it isnt a good thing by any means, but its not a loud tap at all, i isnt even noticble when the hoods down, my father whos been a mechanic for 25 years now said that it can probably be fixed with a good flush and thicker oil because we've caught it in such an early stage.
and to clarify, the damage to the cougar's inner fender is all before the strut towers, alignment angles, motor mounts, and any other major things were not affected, i forgot to say that in the first post.
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Post by: cougrrr302 on September 03, 2007, 11:39:52 PM
Screw you guys. Fix the tick. Then drive it and fix the Cougar, if it has damage in the subframe tear it down fix it and mod that .
Everyone mods Birds, Someone do another Cougar.
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Post by: 88turbo on September 03, 2007, 11:41:51 PM
drive the cat and fix the bird cause birds are so much better than cats *runs and hides*
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Post by: atariman on September 03, 2007, 11:52:48 PM
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Everyone mods Birds, Someone do another Cougar.
he he he he he he
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Post by: grutinator on September 04, 2007, 12:47:52 AM
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Screw you guys. Fix the tick. Then drive it and fix the Cougar, if it has damage in the subframe tear it down fix it and mod that .
Everyone mods Birds, Someone do another Cougar.
that was sorta my dream, but i dont know how fixable the subframe is, i should probably take it to a body shop and see what they have to say. it seems like everybody fix's up mustangs...but it kinda seems everyone picked the same car to be different with, the t-birds. hotrod cougars seems more scarce, especially in my parts of town.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on September 04, 2007, 09:53:57 AM
Bird... Yeah you knew I'd say that...
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 04, 2007, 11:49:17 AM
Bird's the word...
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Post by: thunderjet302 on September 04, 2007, 08:35:08 PM
Bird.................and some pics please:D
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Post by: grutinator on September 04, 2007, 08:47:23 PM
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Bird.................and some pics please:D
i pick it up tomorrow after work. ill take lots-o-pics for ya. im so excited!:D
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Post by: grutinator on September 05, 2007, 09:19:09 PM
its too late to take pics tonight, but man is that car nice. i love it... i mean, its no cougar, but its still nice. :flip: rode fine, brake'd fine, turned fine. and btw, coming from 15's on the cougar to driving this bird with 16's, it does make a big difference in handling. pics tomorrow for sure. man, i am one happy dude!
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Post by: ZondaC12 on September 05, 2007, 09:22:46 PM
AIGHT BINZATCHS!!!!! Im here to represent the Cougahhs y0!!!!!
Do the cat up. Or I swear.....I will beat you.
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Post by: kingcars on September 05, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
I was never aware that either birds or cats had a leg up as far as popularity. Around here, I see an equal number of each (very few), but mine is the only actually modded one. Every time a cet vs bird topic comes up, all I see is a few of the cat guys whining about Tbirds being popular. WHAT!?
And it's not about which one is more uncommon or whatever, it should simply be the right choice. The Tbird is the better candidate. Why damage a perfectly good car?
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Post by: 5.0willgo on September 06, 2007, 09:20:18 AM
Sweet, congrats on the purchase. I saw that bird online somewhere. I would have loved to pick it up for myself as it is a very nice car.
Drive the Cougar daily and preserve the bird. Since the Cougar already has battle scars from daily driving, it's silly to take that chance of destroying a perfectly good Bird.
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Post by: 302 PWR on September 06, 2007, 11:52:53 AM
Buy another Fox and fix both up. Congrats on your purchase.
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Post by: ZondaC12 on September 06, 2007, 12:10:17 PM
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I was never aware that either birds or cats had a leg up as far as popularity. Around here, I see an equal number of each (very few), but mine is the only actually modded one. Every time a cet vs bird topic comes up, all I see is a few of the cat guys whining about Tbirds being popular. WHAT!?
And it's not about which one is more uncommon or whatever, it should simply be the right choice. The Tbird is the better candidate. Why damage a perfectly good car?
C'MON man!!! Of course you know its not about which is actually better, it's just which side makes more noise and violent threats!!!! :2gunsfiri
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Post by: jncocowboyx on September 06, 2007, 12:29:37 PM
in the name of practicality, fix the bird and drive the cat, only because of the imperfections in it already. it would suck to put dings and such on the bird as well and have 2 dented-up cars instead of just 1. just get a dd beater later on and fix the cat at a later time. ;)
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Post by: grutinator on September 06, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
here they are! sorry the pics are so big, i have no idea how to make em smaller.
the seats look kinda faded in that pic, but trust me, thier like brand new. other then the yellow headlights, this car really doesnt show the signs of being 20 years old
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Post by: mercury-man on September 06, 2007, 03:28:02 PM
:drink: here's to the happy couple :birdsmily: :cougarsmily:
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Post by: Clayton on September 06, 2007, 03:30:43 PM
I retract my previous statement. Fix the cat guy. that bird looks pristine. make your cat look like that.
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Post by: grutinator on September 06, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
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Sweet, congrats on the purchase. I saw that bird online somewhere. I would have loved to pick it up for myself as it is a very nice car.
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correct, this tbird was on ebay, thats how i found out about it. i didnt bother with the actual bidding, i just asked the guy for his phone number and did everything directly with him. the thing is...the bidding started off at 1,000 and no one bidded on it till the last hour where only 1 person put out a bid(and they bidded exactly $1000). for a car this clean with that low of mile, i couldnt belive pretty much no one bid on it. thier loss is my gain. the tapping stopped, i just think it had to be driven, it was sitting for a while. i think i am gonna make the bird my project tho, its nice tostart with so its really gonna be nice when its done! i wanna drive it around so bad, but with my luck, itll wind up looking like the cat and i wouldnt ever forgive myself.
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Post by: Dustin1690 on September 07, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
Congrats on the new bird
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Post by: cougrrr302 on September 07, 2007, 07:45:23 PM
DUDE fix the Cat. That Bird is fine. If anything throw any left over parts off of the Coug onto the Bird. The Cat need attention!!! That bird needs no work done to it. And that subframe needs attention. I dont think you want to drive a vehicle with damage like that. Perfect reason to fix it, and it needs paint, plus its BADASS!!!!! Cougars FTMFW!!
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Post by: grutinator on September 07, 2007, 08:34:47 PM
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DUDE fix the Cat. That Bird is fine. If anything throw any left over parts off of the Coug onto the Bird. The Cat need attention!!! That bird needs no work done to it. And that subframe needs attention. I dont think you want to drive a vehicle with damage like that. Perfect reason to fix it, and it needs paint, plus its BADASS!!!!! Cougars FTMFW!!
all damage is before the shock towers, it did not affect ride quality, steering geometry, braking, nothing was different...sitting inside it, you'd never know it washiznit untill u got out the car and walked around and looked at it.
i washed it today, it looks even better now. i swear that bird looks almost brand new... almost. might post a pic or two more tomorrow. and i think im gonna make that my project car, its alot nicer then the cougar and if i hop up the engine, i'll have a pretty nice cruise night/lad-ie-da car. still undecided, but thats how im leaning right now.
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Post by: cougrrr302 on September 08, 2007, 03:15:43 AM
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all damage is before the shock towers, it did not affect ride quality, steering geometry, braking, nothing was different...sitting inside it, you'd never know it washiznit untill u got out the car and walked around and looked at it.
i washed it today, it looks even better now. i swear that bird looks almost brand new... almost. might post a pic or two more tomorrow. and i think im gonna make that my project car, its alot nicer then the cougar and if i hop up the engine, i'll have a pretty nice cruise night/lad-ie-da car. still undecided, but thats how im leaning right now.
I got an idea! Throw all of your mod stuff onto the Bird, and completely restore the Coug. That way you have your nice modded bird to drive, and then you can have a KICKASS Cougar!
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Post by: 5.0willgo on September 08, 2007, 08:37:57 AM
Hey Keith forgot to mention something about tags.
If you can wait until January to tag the Bird, you can get historic plates. (20 years old and a discontinued model) This means $51 to register every two years and no emissions.
I'll probably get mine the first week of January and I am counting down the days as we speak, er type.
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Post by: kingcars on September 08, 2007, 12:45:29 PM
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DUDE fix the Cat. That Bird is fine. If anything throw any left over parts off of the Coug onto the Bird. The Cat need attention!!! That bird needs no work done to it. And that subframe needs attention. I dont think you want to drive a vehicle with damage like that. Perfect reason to fix it, and it needs paint, plus its BADASS!!!!! Cougars FTMFW!!
But why make the Tbird a DD and get it dented up? Then it WILL need work, and that's work that could be avoided. Hell, the body on it looks even better than mine. For practicality, fix the Tbird up. I wouldn't risk having it damaged.
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...and i think im gonna make that my project car, its alot nicer then the cougar and if i hop up the engine, i'll have a pretty nice cruise night/lad-ie-da car. still undecided, but thats how im leaning right now.
That sounds like a very good plan. That Tbird is a perfect cruise-in car, and doesnt need body work!
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Post by: grutinator on September 09, 2007, 08:26:16 PM
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But why make the Tbird a DD and get it dented up? Then it WILL need work, and that's work that could be avoided. Hell, the body on it looks even better than mine. For practicality, fix the Tbird up. I wouldn't risk having it damaged.
That sounds like a very good plan. That Tbird is a perfect cruise-in car, and doesnt need body work!
yeah thats what im thinking. if i fix up the bird the drivetrain, brakes and suspension are the ONLY things i need to modify. whereas the cougar would need, drivetrain, brakes, suspension, bodywork, paint, interior, and so on. i mean, this isnt a really tight budget project, but i really dont have money just to throw around like that.
now i just need to figure out what excactly im gonna do, how mild or how wild its gonna be. i dont think im gonna get too crazy with it tho.
and 3 more after a good wash...
and if someone knows what color this is, i'd be very appritiative.