:cougarsmily: [COLOR="DarkRed"] I've decided that Advanced Auto Parts is going to get their Brake Booster/Master Cylinder assembly
I already have another on order from O'Reilly's. :)
incisive and scathing :flame: e-mail from me. :mad:
weeks that I've had to return a part to Advanced Auto Parts. The first one was the Starter Solenoid for my 89 Full Sized Bronco 4x4. Advanced Auto Parts have co[COLOR="Green"]$[/COLOR]t themselves a
of money by offering substandard parts. My friend, who is doing the work on my vehicles for me, needs a 318 for his 83 Dodge pick-up. He
going to buy it from Advanced. Between the two of us, we own FIVE (5) vehicles!
. BUT(T):shakeass: suggestions of where I could get that proportioning valve that I mentioned in my original post would be greatly appreciated, too. ;) @[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]};-[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]If I get the time, I'll try to keep you updated as to the progress being made on my :cougarsmily: Cabernet Red Kitty . ;)
:cougarsmily: [COLOR="DarkRed"][/COLOR]Hi All,
Ok, we have been through 7734 and back with this problem. We have decided that the Proportioning Valve IS in deed the problem!!! [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"][/COLOR] I've attached pictures of it so you can see what it looks like since I don't know if Mercury used more than one type on these cars or not.
Now, I've BEEN to Lincoln/Mercury near where I live and they looked to see if ANY dealership in the WHOLE of the USA had a new Proportioning Valve. NO SUCH LUCK!!! [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"][/COLOR] However, they did tell me that a LOT of parts from Cougars, Firebirds and Mustangs around the years that my 88 was built are interchangable. (At present, I can't recall the exact years they said. Sorry.)
The "salvage yards" here in Kansas City are not very helpful. They crush stuff that is only just a few years old!!!:mad:
So, I'm posting pix of this thing in hopes that you guys/gals can help me locate at least one GOOD used Proportioning Valve SOMEWHERE. I am now at the point of desparation![COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/COLOR]
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I have a LOT of [COLOR="Green"]money[/COLOR] tied up in this car to make it GO. Now it needs to [COLOR="Red"]STOP[/COLOR]!!! It also has an ENORMOUS amount of sentimental value to me. ***It belonged to my late husband.
I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get this part!!! If you can help me PLEASE let me know. Thank you in advance. [COLOR="Red"]@[/COLOR][COLOR="SeaGreen"]};--[/COLOR]
What brought you to the conclusion of the prop valve? Have replaced numerous brake components on all my birds here(65's thru 04) and never changed one. Not saying it couldnt be bad but I would agree with Vinnie on this one and re-bleed them, it sounds as though you still have air in the system. For the hell of it try this, open all the bleeder screws and let it gravity bleed overnight, then bleed them in the am and see where you are. I replaced a 8 inch brake hose on one of mine and that was what it took to finally get it right.
The threads are stripped out of one of the connecting holes and it leaks like a sieve!
EDIT: It was re-threaded & it's "
holding"
now, but we still do
NOT trust it.
I posted on your other post, but is that a 4 port (2 in and 2 out) or a 5 port(2 in and 3 out)? I have a few around here.
Jim
THANK YOU, Jim. Let's see if you turn out to be my '
saviour'? LOL!
It's a "2 in and 2 out".
Sorry those pix are so bad...I had to use my over-glorified webcam to take them. It's the only
digital cam in the house!
Question(s) about the ones you have around there: They haven't been allowed to dry out, have they? I've been told that if they dry out the seals in them can shrink/rot???...and/or they could rust inside??? Or are yours all still on sealed systems?
I haven't heard about drying out or rusting. All I can tell you is that I removed them less than 6 months ago and they have been on my shelf in the garage. Here are some pics:
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/thundr306/parts%20for%20sale/DSC03006.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/thundr306/parts%20for%20sale/DSC03005.jpg)
THAT looks exactly like what I need!:cool:
I'm curious: What did it come off of and what was the condition of the brake system of the car it came from?:confused:
BTW: At any time during our discussion, you have my permission to download my vCard so we might conduct business in private.;)
pm sent
THANK YOU soooooo much! :grinno:
Julie [COLOR="Red"]@[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]};--[/COLOR]
Are you sure the rear brake shoes are adjusted properly?
On my '84 I have to adjust them occasionaly as the auto-adjusters don't work anymore.
As the shoes wear the pedal gets lower.
If the new shoes were not adjusted you can have too much clearance between the shoes and the drum.
Thank you for your input, softie. But the rear brakes are adjusted about as tight as
practically possible. After a
GOOD (NON-Leaky) Proportioning Valve is installed they'll most likely need to be backed off a bit? I'm guessing that you didn't get a
close peek at what lead up to the present point:confused: ;)
Thanx again,
Julie [COLOR="Red"]@[/COLOR][COLOR="SeaGreen"]};--[/COLOR]
Well, I bought that proportioning valve off of thundr306 (see posted pix in our previous posts). As it turns out, the ports on it are larger than those on the original valve and, therefore, what my brake lines are. Evidently it came off a car with a V8 in it. Mine is a V6. SO, the one I got from thundr is going to be filled with brake fluid, capped and stored until such time that I absolutely have to have new brake lines ran. This way the new lines can be made to match the valve I got from thundr.
Even though the valve, itself, from thundr was a bit of a disappointment, his price was reasonable and he did a GREAT job in getting it to me quite expeditiously.
:cougarsmily: [COLOR="DarkRed"]In the mean time, the original valve is "holding" but not exactly trustworthy? THEREFORE, I'm STILL in the market for a good proportioning valve from a V6 equipped 88 Cougar or T-Bird. If anyone out there has any more ideas I'm open to see what you have in mind. I'd appreciate any and all help anyone may be able to give me in furthering my goal of getting my Cat road worthy once again.
While I'm waiting to find such a proportioning valve, the rest of the system is going to get gone through AGAIN with a fine toothed comb to find out why the pedal still isn't as high as it should be and why it's still too spongy to be able to do an emergency stop with.
There you have it. The latest chapter in the life of my poor Cabernet Kitty.[/COLOR] :cougarsmily:
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Julie[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]@[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]};--[/COLOR]
Julie, I am hoping that you are not saying that I misrepresented the part. Here is a quote from our pm's
"Originally Posted by thundr306
I can't be exactly sure what it came off. Either a Mustang or Thunderbird. I have had a few parts cars here and the parts all get put together. Honestly, I probably only drove one. I am not looking for alot of money, so it's up to you.
Jim
I don't remember any mention of port size/engine size. If you are unhappy with the way the sale went, pm me and we can work something out.
Jim
OOOOOH, NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! NOT at
all!!! [COLOR="DarkRed"]I'm so sorry I gave that impression.
Hey, everyone can make a mis-judgement. Who knew they made these things with TWO different sizes of ports??????? Did YOU? I didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I
SERIOUSLY,
doubt you would have purposely sent me the wrong part if you had the
CORRECT info!
And besides, hey, It's
NOT your fault that Murphy never met
ME!!! I've got
HIM beat by a LONG shot!!!!!
I figured that I'd find out about the part when it got here and that's what happened. Simple as that. NO biggie,,,at least to ME!!!
DAYMB!!! I'm so
sorry I gave you and possibly others the
WRONG impression!!! I'm going to leave these posts as they are to prove the
mis-understanding. OK?
Julie[/COLOR] [COLOR="red"]@[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]};--[/COLOR]
Additional info: BTW: I intend to KEEP the part, as I stated in the latest "Update". I'm perfectly happy with your service, Jim. I can't recall mentioning Engine Size either =
MY MISTAKE!!!!! NOT yours!More info for Jim: PM Sent... Yes, I'd do business with you again!
Why not put a Wilwood prop valve in?
The Mustang/Thunderbird prop valves suck.
The aftermarket people only make "generic" ones for racing purposes only. I need the one I posted the pix of...for a V6.....
Thank you for the idea though... I'll still check out Wilwood since it's something I've not heard of before. THX again.
Julie @};--
The Wilwood valve has a 3/16" double flare inlet/outlet (It actually has a 1/8" NPT inlet, but they give you 2 adapters.) I believe the rear brake lines on non TC cars are 3/16". You need to buy a 3/16" female/female double union for the remaining front brake line.
I'll be installing one on my vehicle in the next few weeks.
Thank you again for this new info....
Of course at this point, I need all the help I can get................
LOL!
Julie @};-
Let me know this evening if you found one yet.If not,I think I can get one for you.Probably run you about $15.00 shipped.
However, I've got to wait to see what my friend who's doing the work has to say next. When he told me about the
"problem" with the port size, he also said that he was going to start all over again with going through the whole brake system with a find toothed comb to see if/what he may have missed the first times. He plans on getting started again this coming weekend. So there's no hurry. ;)
Julie @};-