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Technical => Body/Appearance/Interior => Topic started by: Thunder Chicken on February 08, 2005, 09:19:43 PM

Title: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 08, 2005, 09:19:43 PM
I know the new Cougars used the same bolt pattern as the Fox T-Bird/Cougar. I was always under the assumption that the offset was way off, though, and that the hub hole was too small. Apparently I was wrong. I found this  while scouting ebay in the vain hope that somebody in Canada would have some goodies. I think those wheels look HOT on that car!
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Cougar8775 on February 08, 2005, 09:27:18 PM
ok now are those the 9 inch or 10 inch drums on the rear also what is the brake size in frount?
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 08, 2005, 09:39:28 PM
The rear drums are finned, so they're the 9 inch. the fronot brakes should be 10", since the car in the pic isn't an 87-88 TC (the only Fox t-Bird to get 11" brakes)
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Cougar8775 on February 08, 2005, 10:20:02 PM
im shocked that they fit on there. cuz i was told that no frount wheel drive car rims would fit the rwd
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: wildbill on February 08, 2005, 10:25:24 PM
The Fox platform was started as a front drive or rear drive platform design. That is why it has a bolt on K member and front struts.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: slamedcat on February 08, 2005, 10:41:13 PM
How about trying to make one AWD, "Subaru STI killer" maybe.

 :evilgrin:
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 08, 2005, 11:39:34 PM
there was never a FWD fox, so i doubt that theory is true, and the fox wasnt the only RWD to have front struts
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: slamedcat on February 08, 2005, 11:41:14 PM
No their wasn't a production but their were prototypes they tried.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: lowcat on February 08, 2005, 11:44:39 PM
I wonder if the wheels on my moms focus fit? :evilgrin:
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: slamedcat on February 08, 2005, 11:46:35 PM
Most likely. Same think that is on the cougar. Only the 16 are only 6.5 in wide instead of 7 that is on the cougar.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 09, 2005, 12:19:34 AM
Quote from: lowcat
I wonder if the wheels on my moms focus fit? :evilgrin:


Dude!  You read my mind.  Only thing is I don't like the rims on the focus, they're the 5 twin-spokle style.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: lowcat on February 09, 2005, 12:30:35 AM
I thinkin these wheels might look good on my cougar. I already have a set of ponies but I think I might put the focus wheels on so I can take a picture and see what it looks like.
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/324000-324999/324375_14_full.jpg)
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Haystack on February 09, 2005, 02:03:52 AM
Wasent there a front wheel drive contenetal on the fox platform? maybe not I dont remember. I know that the front wheel drive escort rims dont fit(about 1994). The bolt pattern was to small and the middle hole wasent big enough. Also I thought that the escorts shared a bolt pattern with the new front wheel drive cars?
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: shame302 on February 09, 2005, 02:13:45 AM
Quote
there was never a FWD fox, so i doubt that theory is true, and the fox wasnt the only RWD to have front struts


i had a 92 ford tempo GLS. 2 door, 5 speed 3.0 V6. that little car screwed. stayed with my buddies 89 SHO untill about 50 or 60. anyway...what im getting at is it was  similar in size and shape of the fox mustang. i doubt they were fox platforms but i bet they were close. more imortantly there was an AWD version. that would be kind of pissah to have an AWD tbird for the winter. and there is a supercharger kit for that engine. there is also a guy that swapped a 92 SHO engine into a tempo. i know it wouldnt work but it would be sweet.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 09, 2005, 06:11:16 AM
The Tempo is completely different than the Fox (It's closer to the Escort). Those V6, 5-speed Tempos did work good though...
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: jkirchman on February 09, 2005, 10:59:08 AM
That's pretty  cool.  I always wondered if the NE Cougar wheels would fit.  That's a nice looking, cheap, 16-inch wheels for our cars.  Thanks for taking that pic!
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: V8Demon on February 09, 2005, 11:07:46 AM
wonder if these would fit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43957&item=7953454336&rd=1
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 09, 2005, 11:31:39 AM
I think the New Edge/Contour bolt pattern of 108mm is almost dead-on with our 4x4-1/4" bolt pattern. The hub and offset....ya got me. Any machine shop can enlarge the hub section if needed (FWD cars typically have a smaller hub) so there's a fix. I would be more worried about the offset. But hey, a tape measure and some time will unlock that secret.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 09, 2005, 11:54:01 AM
I remember one time when I was rotating the tires on my mom's Focus, I used an extra wheel from my Fox LTD in leiu of jackstands and the wheel stuck out some.  So, it stands to reason that maybe the New Cougar/Focus wheels sit in a little bit.

And PS - earlier Conti's were foxes, but they were RWD.  Once the Conti was FWD it was no longer a Fox.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 09, 2005, 05:15:58 PM
The 82 or 83 to 87 Continental was Fox based (early Mark VII models were a version of the Continental, which is where the hump came from. I think they dropped Contintntal from the Mark name in 85 or 86). Another 5-lug axle swap candidate...

The 88-99 (or whenever they discontinued the Conti) was Taurus based. The 88-94 versions even look kinda like a Sable with longer rear doors
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: dominator on February 09, 2005, 06:53:27 PM
Really cool rims with the same front wheel drive 4 bolt patterns are the svt contour 5 stars and the svt focus 5 stars, and yes they do fit but they usally go for a mint when up for sale.
I new a guy once when i worked at ford that put focus rims on his xr4ti,looked alot better than stock and worked just fine.
My wife's got an 87 topaz (same bolt pattern) and for her summer wheels i installed one of my extra sets of 10hole mustang rims with 205/60/15s on them,looks alot better than the stock steels.
They fit prettyy good but i had to roll the rear 1?4 panel lips to adjust for the wider tires.
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Chuck W on February 09, 2005, 07:01:41 PM
Hrmmm...looks like an '83 Heritage.  Not something you see everyday.

(http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1046&stc=1)


BTW, the Fox did not start as a FWD platform even in concepts....the modified MacPhersons were used because they were cheap and a lighter package than the normal fare, and offered more room in the engine bay over other types.  There was also no cheap way any of their available power-plants were going to ever work in a FWD application.  The Fox platform started as a RWD economy chassis....
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 09, 2005, 08:30:34 PM
that is a heritage, check out the c-pillar embelums
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Rwolf on February 09, 2005, 09:24:10 PM
Wonders of Spacers, (at least I think in this case...)
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: Chuck W on February 09, 2005, 09:46:52 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
that is a heritage, check out the c-pillar embelums



Thus my statement  :grinno: 

I could take or leave the wheels.....
Title: Re: New edge Cougar wheels on a Fox T-Bird
Post by: cougarcragar on February 09, 2005, 09:56:39 PM
I can't believe that car!
Keyless entry
Digital dash
Dual power seats
Factory alarm with light in console
Vent windows

I'm surprised it doesn't have the sunroof. What a nice car...