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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: CougarSE on July 16, 2007, 01:02:48 PM

Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 16, 2007, 01:02:48 PM
All this time I've planned to put a 5 speed behind the 5.0 when I get my butt in gear and drop the engine in.  But I've changed my thoughts and want an AODE.  So my simple route will be a 94/95 GT Auto computer.  I'll have Maf and means to control the AODE.  Not much of a thread.. but I'm bored and thought I would see what people thought..
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: Ifixyawata on July 16, 2007, 01:06:15 PM
Are the AOD-E's the ones you can electronically shift?  Or are those the later 4R70W or whatever?  Paddleshift ftw.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: gumby on July 16, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
nice thread, now DO IT!!

:beatyoass:
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: JeremyB on July 16, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
4r70w
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 16, 2007, 05:12:23 PM
What year did they switch to a 4r70w?
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: JeremyB on July 16, 2007, 05:15:32 PM
94 for Thunderbirds?
Unsure for SN95s
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 16, 2007, 05:16:37 PM
Oh,, I duno.. well either way it will work..
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: JeremyB on July 16, 2007, 05:20:55 PM
Do they have the same pinouts?
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: *MAYHEM* on July 16, 2007, 09:56:05 PM
Does this mean you won't be needing that T-5 and the pedal assy.? :D
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 16, 2007, 10:44:56 PM
According to Mitchell OnDemand, 94 and 95 5.0 and 94 3.8 Mustangs had either AODE's or AODE-W's (never heard of an AODE-W). 95 3.8 and 96 4.6 Mustangs had 4R70W's.

According to this diagram they're both wired the same (I say this because Mitchell only has one diagram for 95-96 Mustang trannies and mentions both in the diagram header):
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 16, 2007, 11:42:03 PM
AODE = close ratio 2.40 1st(same as AOD)... 4R70W Wide ratio, 2.84 1st...
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: booksix on July 19, 2007, 12:18:40 PM
Bad idea...  Idk anything about automatic transmissions but I do know that the 94/95 Mustang EEC system is horrible (and not swapable with 89-93 units - different wiring).  I think I read it was an attempt at better emissions but a bad one.  Appearntly even basic mods like intake or exhaust and suddenly youre fighting to get the car to run even halfway decent!
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: 32VFoxBird on July 19, 2007, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: booksix;161880
Bad idea...  Idk anything about automatic transmissions but I do know that the 94/95 Mustang EEC system is horrible (and not swapable with 89-93 units - different wiring).  I think I read it was an attempt at better emissions but a bad one.  Appearntly even basic mods like intake or exhaust and suddenly youre fighting to get the car to run even halfway decent!


this is true! 94/95 mustang are EEC-V. you would need alot of wiring harness' to get it to work, or buy the $400+ Baumanator controller.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: 32VFoxBird on July 19, 2007, 01:00:27 PM
another option is a full manual valvebody. i have this with a transbrake in my 4R70W. OD and lock-up will be on the same toggle switch.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: JeremyB on July 19, 2007, 03:15:21 PM
The 94/95 EECs aren't horrible. They just require someone who knows what they're doing to tune them properly.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 19, 2007, 04:37:20 PM
AND AFIK are EEC-IVs...
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: JeremyB on July 19, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
So? ;)

A little re-wiring will have it working. Claude is a wiring machine.

The only issues I see are emission related. Easily overcome with a chip.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: 32VFoxBird on July 19, 2007, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;161906
AND AFIK are EEC-IVs...


they're EEC-V they have a 104 pin connector vs a 60 pin on foxes.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 19, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
Look closely guys.. its EEC-IV.  And honestly I'm not going for a super tuned vehicle, I want the newer transmission without the $500+ cost of the bauman controller.  And yes I am a wiring machine.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e89/fredcruz/T4M0002.jpg)
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: 32VFoxBird on July 19, 2007, 08:23:11 PM
well, uh, oops! i stand corrected. my friend has a 94gt, and she needed an adapter to use an A9L computer.
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 19, 2007, 08:27:06 PM
Carmen oh buddy could you supply me with a wiring harness diagram for a 94 95 GT Auto?  Hate to ask as this would be like oh the 20th time :)
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 19, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Just the tranny, or the whole EEC-IV?

*Edit* Here's the first three pages of the whole EEC-IV:
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 19, 2007, 08:56:44 PM
Both :)
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 19, 2007, 09:06:26 PM
...and page four, and the tranny
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 19, 2007, 09:07:42 PM
Thanks a bunch!
Title: Transmission solution for my TC
Post by: CougarSE on July 19, 2007, 09:08:08 PM
Now I gota change the pedals back out of the car, I had it ready to drop in the 5 speed.