General => Lounge => Topic started by: jcassity on July 12, 2007, 10:12:17 PM
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: jcassity on July 12, 2007, 10:12:17 PM
so,, in general or detail.
does anyone have any words to describe the job class/rate EN = Engineering
nickname "snipes"
my thoughts,,,,,,
humm you are dropped into a hole down inside the belly of the ship hardly ever seen or heard from again
while everyone else has 6 section duty, your whole department is working 2 (port/starboard)
while out to sea, your busy like everyone else
while in port overseas in france, most everyone else is out at nude beach or tossing back a few brews while you man a grease gun or a 90lb wrench back on the boat.
while most all other departments have little trouble out of thier crews, engineering folks are generally more apt to get busted in rank due to the high temperment and low moral the steam, attitudes and general work conditions promote
as an engineer, you will learn to play cribbage and spades, hell everyone learned spades.,,engineers love cribbage
you are less often the more able to get yourself clean
you are more often going to arrive in the gally all greasy looking like a alley way streat bumb who never once knew the simple life of three squares a day and clean laudry.
generally you are not bothered by anyone cause no one F's with engineering. They'll simply end you or make you wish they had.
The captain loves engineering,, that must be the reason why a lot of engineers are wating outside the captains office in dress uniform wating thier turn to exit said office several ounces lighter due to missing rank.
Most everyone on the boat does feel sorry for engineers.
In my past experience,, the three hardest working divisions that got bent over for reasons not within thier control were Engineering, Boiler Techs and Arresting gear/Catapault crews. These guys were and still are super screwed,, and most all of em were never told what the real scoop was.
This post was generated to convince someone in our little family here not to become an EN. This particular potential Engineer was told he would be working in "motor pool". Last time i checked,, the navy really doesnt have much of a motor pool,,,,unless we are talking about ASE or GSE rates.
any thoughts?
scott
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: HAVI on July 12, 2007, 10:41:53 PM
Air Force motorpool sounds better, and that's coming from an Army guy.
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: 84 Fila on July 13, 2007, 10:17:40 AM
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Engineman (Advanced Technical Field Field) EN
General Info: Enginemen operate, service and repair internal combustion engines used to power some of the Navy's ships and most of the Navy's small craft. Most Enginemen work with diesel engines. Enginemen also operate and maintain electrohydraulic controllable pitch propeller systems and steering engines, refrigeration and air conditioning systems, air compressors, desalinization plants and small auxiliary boilers. Active duty obligation is six years. Applicants will enlist for four years and concurrently execute an agreement to extend their enlistment for 24 months. Enlistee enters as an E-1 (fireman recruit). Advancement to E-2 (fireman apprentice) will be made after successful completion of recruit training. Advancement to paygrade E-3 will be made after completion of all advancement-in-rate requirements (including minimum time in rate). Advancement to paygrade E-4 (petty officer third class) will be made after successful completion of initial school training and after all advancement-in-rate requirements (including minimum time in rate) are completed. Advancement to E-3 and E-4 is contingent upon maintaining eligibility in the Advanced Technical Field.
What They Do: The duties performed by EN-ATFs include: aligning fuel, water and air piping systems and control operation of diesel engines used for ship propulsion, to propel small craft and to generate electrical power; cleaning, lubricating, adjusting, testing and performing other preventive maintenance on diesel engines, reduction gears, air compressors, hydraulic or pneumatic clutches, steering engines and controllable pitch propeller systems; operating and maintaining desalinization plants used to make fresh water from sea water; operating and servicing refrigeration plants and air conditioning systems; repairing or replacing valves, pumps, compressors, heat exchangers and control devices used with diesel engines and gas turbines; making entries into and buttstuffyzing machinery operating records and reports.
Detailed List of Required Duties
ASVAB Score Requirements: AR+MK+EI+GS=211
Other Requirements: Must have normal hearing. 72 month obligation.
High school diploma graduate or equivalent. Must be able to type 40 words per minute. Must have no record of conviction by civil court for any offense other than minor traffic.
Technical Training Information: Enlistees are taught the fundamentals of this rating through on-the-job training or formal Navy schooling.
Engineering Common Core Mechanical Core Great Lakes, Ill. 3 weeks to 4 weeks
Introduction to technical documentation, basic mechanical theory, safety precautions and programs, alignment and operation of piping systems and equipment, hand tools, precision instruments, lubricants systems, bearings, couplings, gears, valves, pumps and the Maintenance Material Management System (3M). Group instruction and practical application.
Engineman Class "A" School Great Lakes, Ill. 6 weeks
Basic diesel engine construction, systems, maintenance and repair of auxiliary equipment including small bore engines, anchor windlass, elevators, steering gear, hydraulics, air compressors, galley and laundry equipment maintenance and repair, distilling plants. Watch standing and system tracing in an operational propulsion plant trainer. Group instruction and practical application
After "A" school, ENs may be assigned "C" School for a specific diesel mechanic course for advanced training prior to being assigned to ships, naval shipyards or naval repair facilities afloat or as in the United States or overseas. Upon completion of first fleet tour, ENs may be assigned to a "C" school for a specific diesel mechanic course for advanced training. In a 20-year period, ENs spend about 65 percent of their time assigned to fleet units and 35 percent to s stations.
Working Environment: Although Enginemen often work closely with others, they may also be required to work alone with limited supervision.
Opportunity Rating: For qualified applicants, opportunities are fairly good to enter this rating. About 6,000 men and women work in the EN rating
:flip: ;)
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 13, 2007, 10:37:58 AM
I was on the flight deck at least I got to see the sun.
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: jcassity on July 13, 2007, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: kitzdnm;160524
I was on the flight deck at least I got to see the sun.
like myself while on sea duty,, but,,, what are your thoughts on EN?
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 13, 2007, 02:40:01 PM
I really don't have an opinion,I think if your young and want experiance its ok.If your older like me ,I like my freedom.
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 13, 2007, 02:45:17 PM
By the way FILA where did you come up with that?
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: 84 Fila on July 13, 2007, 02:47:36 PM
I googled the term and I fould a site that had that on it Info (http://"http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjob1/a/en.htm")
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 13, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
You have to much time on your hands.Fix your car!! Or join,then you can sing momma momma can't you see what the navy did to me,shined my shoes cut my hair ,made a man out of me!
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Ether947 on July 13, 2007, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: kitzdnm;160524
I was on the flight deck at least I got to see the sun.
Which ship?
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: 84 Fila on July 13, 2007, 05:48:21 PM
I ship Jan 22 of 08 so I have alitle time on my hands. What I'll be doing so far is EN but I can still change. Or ask to change I should say. I'll see what else I'm qualified to do that is open
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: chri85tc on July 13, 2007, 10:03:55 PM
MR is a good rate, I was one back in the 80's and It can make you some real good money in the real world when you get out!
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 14, 2007, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: Ether947;160607
Which ship?
Nimitz 76-80
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 14, 2007, 12:38:24 PM
Quote from: 84 Fila;160608
I ship Jan 22 of 08 so I have alitle time on my hands. What I'll be doing so far is EN but I can still change. Or ask to change I should say. I'll see what else I'm qualified to do that is open
Where you goin to boot at?
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: 84 Fila on July 14, 2007, 02:53:06 PM
Great Lakes, IL. I also have my EN training there
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Ether947 on July 14, 2007, 07:35:41 PM
Quote from: kitzdnm;160734
Where you goin to boot at?
There's only one now. The first half was fun (at least IMO). It gets kinda boring towards the end though. Ah the memories. We sooo cheated into the Hall of Fame, lol.
Title: prior navy guys
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 15, 2007, 07:06:04 AM
I was there in jan and feb. cold as a Mother F!!!!, Good luck to you.