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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2007, 05:45:53 PM

Title: 5 lug mod on Stang rear .....
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2007, 05:45:53 PM
Got a question,what axles and brake parts will I need to swap 5 lug on a Stang rear?I MAY go 5 lug in the rear so I can install 10.5 Cobra R wheels on the back,then,as time and money allow,I'll do a 5 lug swap on the front.I can wait for the front,my 9 inch Cobra wheels are new,and even though the 10.5's would be 5 lug,they would match well enough until I get to the front.

Second question,will a 10.5 inch 5 lug Cobra R wheel fit under the rear of the '88 Sport with a Stang rear and using Stang axles?

Oh Chuuuuuuuuck...............................
Title: 5 lug mod on Stang rear .....
Post by: gumby on July 09, 2007, 06:40:24 PM
two short side ranger axles and two ranger drums
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Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
Which side is the short side?
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Post by: gumby on July 09, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
right
Title: 5 lug mod on Stang rear .....
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2007, 06:54:07 PM
Right what?Just kidding.LOL.
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on July 09, 2007, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: gumby;159763
two short side ranger axles and two ranger drums


incorrect, he would need the longer ones on the driver side, or pass side on an aerostar.

and vinnie..........use the search function. :beatyoass:

http://mjbobbitt.home.comcast.net/mustang/5lug.html
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Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2007, 07:46:27 PM
Thanks.So,will the 4 cyl. Ranger front rotors convert our cars to five lug up front?I'm unsure how our rotors compare to 4 cyl. Stangs.
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Post by: gumby on July 09, 2007, 07:54:20 PM
d'oh, i mistyped, then followed it with the correct answer to the wrong question....

my apologies:disappoin
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Post by: atariman on July 09, 2007, 11:07:05 PM
When I converted my front disc's to five lug, I ground the old studs down and drilled (5) new holes and installed the new studs. Easy if you have a bridgeport I guess, but I didn't have to convert brakes or anything.
:birdsmily:
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Post by: Sduneman3 on August 29, 2007, 05:33:50 PM
Also, I've heard on a bunch of fox mustang forums, the SN95 axles and brakes will work in the rear.  That with the fox mustang rear w/ the SN95 axles will make the rear 3/4" wider on each side.  The same as what the Cougar/T-bird is stock:)
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Post by: CougarSE on August 29, 2007, 05:36:56 PM
Exactly.. if you use a Fox mustang rear or a Turbo coupe rear or an early 7.5..
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Post by: Sduneman3 on August 29, 2007, 05:39:10 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;173130
Exactly.. if you use a Fox mustang rear or a Turbo coupe rear or an early 7.5..


So would the rear from an 85' Turbo Coupe work?
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Post by: CougarSE on August 29, 2007, 05:43:07 PM
Well it would be a 7.5, That actually the exact rear I have in my 88 cougar.. They came with 3.45 gears and a traction lock so not a bad rear.. especially for a 3.8 car.  Only problem is some 85 rears are the wider rear and some are the narrow rear.. you need the earlier narrower rear.  Usually you can tell by the drums it has.
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Post by: Chuck W on August 29, 2007, 06:21:29 PM
You will have to measure that '85 7.5 rear housing to be certain.  It MAY be the wider one.  Vinnie ran into that recently. 

I want to say that the changeover came in 85.5 when they upgraded the engine (injectors/ECU), but Vinnie didn't have the info on the car.
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Post by: CougarSE on August 29, 2007, 06:41:44 PM
Wonder if thats when they went to the Hydraulic motor mounts?  Or did the earlier cars come with the same fluid filled mounts?
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Post by: Sduneman3 on August 30, 2007, 02:40:04 AM
I found this, how to use ranger axles, and Mark VII calipers.

http://home.pacbell.net/black306/tech/reardisc.html
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Post by: 460 turbo truck on August 30, 2007, 01:27:18 PM
http://www.flemworld.com/Hto/hto.html (http://"http://www.flemworld.com/Hto/hto.html")

Click on 4 to 5 lug swap,

this site is awsome for all sorts of " fox " ideas, pretty sweet setup if yah ask me !!

not sure if the A-arms things from SN95's with work on the tbirds,

but i know you can make the fox 1" wider front and rear using SN-95 parts,

pretty sweet, and every one has a killer brake kit for em,
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Post by: cougarpower51 on August 31, 2007, 09:25:25 PM
dude I dont know if this can help you but will this one fit our cougar or tbirds too thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290155117908&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019
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Post by: Sduneman3 on August 31, 2007, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: cougarpower51;173735
dude I dont know if this can help you but will this one fit our cougar or tbirds too thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290155117908&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019


Those things are a joke.  You can do the SN95 swap for a little bit more, and get better and new style brakes.  And for the rear, ranger axles are cheaper.

Also, the stock 05'+ rims are more expensive, and don't look as good as SN95 in my opinion.
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Post by: Old_Paint on September 12, 2007, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: cougarpower51;173735
dude I dont know if this can help you but will this one fit our cougar or tbirds too thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290155117908&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019
Hmmm, those are very similar to some I ran on the rear of my VW so I could put some Cragar mags on it.  My only beef with those is how much offset they add.  One of the studs was actually a lug bolt (VW's used bolts, not nuts) that had an eccentric to center the adapter.  That went into the drum first, then three bolts that were counter sunk through the adapter.  I still have those adapters, but I'm sure they wouldn't work on the 'Bird.  (or would they ......)  I since just bought wider wheels that fit, and got rid of the adapters.
 
Thanks for the link, though.
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Post by: JeremyB on September 13, 2007, 11:21:17 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;173146
You will have to measure that '85 7.5 rear housing to be certain.  It MAY be the wider one.  Vinnie ran into that recently.

The easy way is to look at the rotors. Axle shaft width stayed the same, but the actual backing plate-to-backing plate width increased. The two models have different rotors to account for the offset between the axle shaft  face and the backing plate.

1983-1985.5 Drum
(http://www.brakeandchassis.com/img/jpg/380/base/p01/87251_ang_gra.jpg)

1985.5-1988 Drum
(http://www.brakeandchassis.com/img/jpg/380/base/p01/87038_ang_gra.jpg)