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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: the_intimidator03 on June 25, 2007, 08:14:42 AM

Title: brake swap questions
Post by: the_intimidator03 on June 25, 2007, 08:14:42 AM
I was curious..  I beleive 94+ stangs used the rotor/hat combo vs our rotor/hub combo.  What would it take to convert our cars (86 cougar specificaly) to the 94+ system? Also how would it effect track width and suspension geometry etc?
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Ether947 on June 26, 2007, 12:29:04 PM
Shame! :D
http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/4to5lug.html
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: the_intimidator03 on June 27, 2007, 04:29:29 AM
i knew that was in there somewhere just couldnt come accross it... so i take it that 94+ IS rotor/hat combo?
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: EricCoolCats on June 27, 2007, 09:17:40 AM
Actually it's rotor/hub assembly. You can use all the parts from a 1994-2004 Mustang. There was a brake upgrade across the board for all models in 1999, so choose the parts carefully (don't mix and match pre-99 with post-99). But spindles, calipers, rotors, hubs...they all work on our cars just fine. You may need to put spacers (washers) between your strut and spindle. Or you could just use the SN95 struts. In the long run, the SN95 upgrade will be worth it, as parts will probably be more plentiful for those in the future.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: the_intimidator03 on June 27, 2007, 09:26:32 AM
hmm...... so the mustangs never got a rotor/hat combo? thats one of the appealing aspects.... no bearing packing for each rotor change
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: CougarSE on June 27, 2007, 10:13:37 AM
what your thinking they had is what they had..  just a misunderstanding of the name.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Chuck W on June 27, 2007, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: the_intimidator03;157134
hmm...... so the mustangs never got a rotor/hat combo? thats one of the appealing aspects.... no bearing packing for each rotor change


Huh?
That is what Eric just said.  The rotor is a separate piece from the hub/bearing assy.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: JeremyB on June 27, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
Although the calipers for the V6/GT/Cobra changed in '99, the rotors and caliper bracket still interchange between any '94-'04 model.
The rears had no changes from '94-'04.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Chuck W on June 27, 2007, 01:28:53 PM
Aside from cosmetic differences, the Cobra calipers were the same from '94-'04.  The V6/GT calipers changed from the cast single-piston calipers to the Al 2-piston PBRs in '99. 
The rear calipers were the same between the "small" and "large" rotored versions, with the mounting bracket on the axle being the difference.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: JeremyB on June 27, 2007, 02:13:32 PM
94-98 Cobra calipers are dual 38mm pistons
99-04 Cobra calipers are dual 40mm pistons
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Chuck W on June 27, 2007, 02:19:03 PM
Oopsie :D
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: the_intimidator03 on June 28, 2007, 04:09:19 AM
thanks for the info i appreciate it
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Ether947 on June 28, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
:D
Quote from: Chuck W;157170
Oopsie

lol... he set you up. I almost fell for it too. Good thing you're a quicker poster that me. :D
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: JeremyB on June 28, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
Heck, after Chuck posted I had to look it up myself to convince myself it was true.
Title: brake swap questions
Post by: Chuck W on June 28, 2007, 01:07:55 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;157350
Heck, after Chuck posted I had to look it up myself to convince myself it was true.


I had forgotten about the change myself. 


Speaking of, I need to double-check what size the C4 PBRs I'm using in the '80 are.
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