Well I took off my door panel to replace the blown speaker only to find this weird clip thing.
Anyway, how would I put aftermarket speakers in with this cable?
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Go to best buy.. They sell an adapter.
The closest Best Buy is 2 and a half hours away.
Would an audio store sell them?
Yes, or try AutoZone or Advanced Auto Parts. I think they typically have them in stock.
You know what is funny, my car has "premium sound" on the door speaker grills... but there is absolutely no wiring for door speakers that I could find. Also no EQ. Is that normal?
Sounds weird, maybe a previous owner messed around with it?
Possible, he left his 6 year old pioneer cd player in it, and the only speaker that was in it was a stock one in the rear deck. He had a pretty big pair of subs in the trunk he took though. So who knows.
Did he leave the wiring for the amp/subs?
Yeah, theres a pair of fat RCA's, a big fat power wire and a turn-on signal wire running to the trunk.
Im pretty sure he was all about the bass and not about sound quality though... I could be wrong. He coulda had it loaded up with speakers and just took them out.
No ground? That signal wire should be the remote I'm 99999999.999999% sure of this.
I do believe with that plug you had the factory system that has the speakers in the doors & speakers in the dash. I know my 84 was this way. I didn't even think there was speakers in the dash but when I disconect the door speakers there is sound from the dash. The 84 doesn't have the grills like the 85-88 cars do. I've also run into some Mark 7's that were this way. Also my 84 premium sound was 6speaker setup with a nice for 84 tape AM/FM cassette deck, also has the 84 amp with the switch below the radio for the amp on/off and the Power anttena up/down. No EQ that I know of the new cars I'm sure were different I know I've been in 3 87-88 T/c's that have a factory EQ in them.
The signal wire is for remote. And there was a ground, but he cut it to about 3 inches, and I removed it.
Okay, I went to every audio store in the city and to no avail they do not carry the adapter clip.
Does anyone know which brand makes it? Or even know the model number of the part?
Also since I have my drivers door apart is the solenoid that works the lock supposed to be lose? Its just hanging there, no rivets or anything.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Metra-Ford-Speaker-Harness-72-5600/sem/rpsm/oid/141366/catOid/-13124/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Thank you so very much!
But, another question (I'm full of them). Would I have to a buy similar adapter for the rear deck speakers?
Yes.
And could you find those for me o wise one?
Should be the same in the rear, the only issue you might have is in the dash. I had an issue where my dash plugs were '83-'86 style but the rears were '87-'88. But if you are just doing the doors and rear deck, they should be fine. I'm sure someone else can chime in and either confirm or deny that.
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Will this help??
this is what i did
I put in an after market stero and wired it in seperatly from the stock wiring system. To get the wiring through the door jam area i used a wire hanger and pulled it through. If that is too hard just cut off the clips then use a female connector with the 2 greens together and the 2 other ones together then that goes onto the speaker ports. Simple as it may sound its still a challange.
Thanks, but I'd rather spend $8.95 and just get the clips.
Now to find some 6 by 5 Pioneers!
thats what i put in mine are the pioneers
I finally found some Pioneers to match my deck.
I still can't find those adapter clips though. The guy at the audio store said that they no longer make them, he also said that I could wire the speakers up by splicing the wires. Not running new wires just using the pre-existing wires. From what I got from him I know this:
The orange is postive, the blue is negative.
And thats it, he didn't tell me what to do with the other blue and orange wires. I don't know if this will work, and I really hate running wire. Thats why I paid 60 bucks to get my amp wired.
The speakers came with these really cool grills but I don't want to cut holes in the already Premium Sound grills so I'm just gonna throw them in. Also, should I use the plastic speaker housing thing that my stock speakers were in or just screw in these new ones without them?
Heres a pic of the speakers for kicks.
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Anyone? Please?
I really want to put my door panel back on, the car feels like a junker without it.. :hick:
as for wiring, even when i traced the speaker wires, i still had to run the wire with clothes hangers and such. for some reason the stock wire just dint work, and there were no severed wires and they werent put on backwards or anything. it was the weirdest thing i've ever run into. took me about a week to get it done between work and school. (total 3 hour job) so i know the pain of not wanting to run wire, but some times its worth it. i replaced it with way better wire and the sound quality picked up 150% easy. i'd just screw your new ones in without those grills that came with it and toss the buckets. some people might say without them you'll get a rattle, but if you can put them in tight enough it should work fine. i found that in other cars people would use a bit of hot glue, let it set and it'd completely stop any rattle issue they had. BUT its your car, experiment, if you get a rattle without the buckets, try it with the buckets... etc etc.
Thanks for the advice.
But if I were to run the wire how would I find out which one is connected to the H.U.? And wouldn't you have to tear up the dash just to run the wire?
well my car didnt have premium sound, so i didnt have to worry about those dash speakers. as for the dash, when you drop the glove box all the way down, you'll see the hvac shroud. you have about an inch between the side of the interior metal and that shroud.. thats the bitch. but what i did was took a clothes hanger, snipped off the "wiggly end" and made a "loop" that was completed with tape. i then ran the wire from the door through the wire boot, and dug in that little space for about 30 minutes and got the loop end through. then i put the speaker wire through the loop and made a loop with the wire, then it only took pulling the clothes hanger wire back out through the boot. that was the easiest part. on the drivers side you have much more room to work with so its way easier to get through the boot and repeat the process. as for running the wire, if you stick your head under the pass side of the dash theres a "mesh grill" type deal and i just wove the wires through that, and on the driver side i just tucked it into the dash above driver's feet. when i ran the wire to the back speakers i removed the moulding around the quarter window (inside) and then removed the arm rest. then the bottom of the back seat. it takes a star type head which i'd size up to a half inch size to get the back of the back seat out. didnt have it so i just poked the same hanger wire through the plastic and repeated the same way of pulling the wire through. i then tucked all the wires under the door sill and behind the arm rest section of the back trim. no wires are visible and i again wove the wires (zip ties work great) in that grate thats unseen under the pass dash. again no wires are visible. it sounds kinda complicated but the only complicated part is getting the hanger through the boots and behind the back seat. if you can remove the back seat totally you'll save a good 90 min of messin around and such. i know it prolly seems kinda ghetto but it works great b/c no wires are visible, no wires "fall out" of place, and it ended up with better thicker speaker wire. if you go to autozone they should have speaker wire spools and it took 2 for my installation well 1 1/2 of the spools. the easiest way to know which is ground and which is hot is predetermine a color code. i used different colors of electrical tape to designate which was the ground and which is hot. as for getting it behind the dash theres PLENTY of room, its WIDE open behind where the HU goes. the wire i used was clear coated and the 2 wires were different metals. aluminum and brass. brass for hot, aluminum for ground. almost idiot proof. with the harness all saudered together and what not you'll have a rats nest of wires so watch out when you go to put the HU in, b/c the first time i was so frustraited and what not with cuts on my hands (shoulda used my mechanix gloves) i cramed it all in there and it pulled the wire from the lighter. so make sure the wires dont get cramed in there pushing on other wires. another ghetto trick i had to do was the ground. i couldnt find the right size screw (even at radio shack) so i just wrapped the screw in that aluminum tape (wally world has it) and basically widened the screw, to my suprise it worked way better than i thought and has stood up since december with no problems. if you get any error codes from the HU just read the manual and source the problem out. on a side note, i'd say that if you had speakers in the dash you prolly would have to take the dash apart to get to them b/c i have the grills for them but i cant find a way to get to them (thought about putting tweets in there) its tricky but easy. and thats how to rewire 4 speakers with the least amount of money. :hick: :punchballs:
Wow, thats a lot of info. Thanks for putting so much time into it!
It seems with the money and custom work I'm putting into this car I should just keep it and never sell it. :D
If you
do sell it, you'll be lucky to get out of it what you paid for it... let alone what you put into it ;)
no prob man i help where i can. :D
Well great. One day I have the speakers and then some asshole with half a brain and a screw driver gets into my trunk and steals my subs amp and the new speakers! I worked a lot of hours at a really shiznitty job to buy those things and then some low life, no life asshole goes and steals them from me.
You know life is unfair when..
when i installed the speakers on the rear deck, i spray painted the stock grills black, along with the 3rd brake light enclosure, the only way to know its got pioneers in the rear is to look directly down when theres light that reflects off the tweeters (3 way speakers, or 2 way whatever) i've seen hondas and mazdas that had sub enclosures that would take 30 minutes with a crow bar to even get the boxes loose. let alone c00ch and grab them. with the way the thunderbird has the "shelf" thing where the spare tire SHOULD have been, you could mount 2 10's in there and make the sub box perminant.. hasnt someone done that? i think someone here has made a custom box for that indention in the trunk.
I just can't believe those s stole my stuff. I really want to kill who did it, or at least put them in a coma for the rest of their lives.
ouch i thought that post was hypothetical, that sucks. when i was up in NC attending NTI, other students were actually targeted b/c of thier cars and affiliation with nascar tech. fortunatly my apartment complex was about 20 or so miles away, so i wasnt or anyone in my complex was screwed over... but there was a guy that had a bubble eyed WRX decked out in all the true aftermarket equipment. it wasnt by any means an autozone tuned car. for reasons unknown to me his car was completely stripped in the NTI student parking lot. they used a crowbar to shatter the CF hood, got all his aftermarket turbo goodies and even the top end was taken. all windows were shattered and all his custom int (recaro leather embrodered seats, steering wheel, componant speakers, HU, subs, EVERYTHING[the school security cameras showed them going in and out of a tool box on the truck-read on....]) was stolen. the only thing they didnt take were the rims but did much worse as a top off to what they did. they made his car into a golf ball. teachers and other people figured out that they had taken a ball-pein hammer and tapped dents just like a golfball. the saddest part was the cameras were on the car, but a f250 that was skyjacked hid what they did, and the f250 couldnt be identified b/c it had a custom blue stripe down the side, and the mooresville police couldnt find a trace of the truck. that week 12 other WELL modified cars were done the same, except in front of thier own apartments!! then it stopped so me and the guys i lived around think it was out of towners.
but like fingernails on a chalkboard..... rich ****er drove his other car to school after that.... 07' rouch stage 3. >.< BUT before he had his mustang delivered from his home in another state he baught then sold a jeep cherokee. although i envy him in a way, when i saw his WRX i still died a little inside b/c of what someone would do to another person's car.
Oh by the way, I found the door speaker connectors the other day, they were tucked way into the door, well hidden.