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Title: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 01, 2005, 05:30:28 PM
I'm pretty sure they aren't going to bolt right up, as in the bolts lining up, but I'm talking about size. are they smaller both length and height? how about depth? hopefully someone has tried to see how stang lights would fit.

btw I'm talking fox stang to 88 Tbird
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Nate on February 01, 2005, 09:31:12 PM
their pretty close, but stang lights are a bit narrower, and the angle of the lense is a bit different i think.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 02, 2005, 03:09:30 AM
so if the mounting itself was solved, and blackouts were put over the lights so you couldn't really see them, then you could use stang lights and it wouldn't look completely shiznitty? :dunno:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 02, 2005, 03:45:31 AM
kinda like this?
(http://img69.exs.cx/img69/4562/projectorlights5ih.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: MasterBlaster on February 02, 2005, 05:48:59 AM
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hopefully someone has tried to see how stang lights would fit.
No, but I've got some "square" Bosch H6054s in there.
I had to build my own holders and brackets to keep them adjustable, and notch the header panel lower surface for the lights' s (if I did it again, I'd probably grind/sand off the headllight's s instead).

The good part... they use H4's, and they're all glass, so I can run 100+ watt bulbs if I want, and not worry about melting the lights (unlike the stockers). The light pattern is a hell of a lot better too. I can actually SEE!!!!!!!

PS: If I ever get off my lazy butt, I'll make some filler panels to cover the inside open space. Just need to bend up some aluminum sheet, and use 2 of the original mounting holes for the stock lights.
Maybe use some GTS clears to keep them "aero"?

Sorry for the dark pics, it's 2:30AM here.
At least I FINALLY got a digital camera.  :ies:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: dominator on February 02, 2005, 07:04:20 AM
:disappoin
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: MasterBlaster on February 02, 2005, 07:42:33 AM
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:disappoin
Was that aimed at me?
I didn't start it, Ford did, with their silly Mustang SVO....
(http://fabraham.club.fr/images/ford/mustang3_1984-SVO.jpg)
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 02, 2005, 12:58:54 PM
Heh, looks like an ollld escort or tempo.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: dominator on February 02, 2005, 06:02:05 PM
Yes dude that was definetly aimed at you.
It looks ok on the svo but i looks totally retarded on a bird.
I hate to see somebody do that to a bird no matter how beatup it is.
I hope that's your winter car.
I'm sure no matter how yellowed your old lights were,they could have been brought back to life somewhat with the proper techniques.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 02, 2005, 06:06:05 PM
regardless of all that....

has anyone ever tried to see how mustang lights would fit on a bird?
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 02, 2005, 06:31:01 PM
they dont fit
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 02, 2005, 07:06:14 PM
Quote from: dominator
Yes dude that was definetly aimed at you.
It looks ok on the svo but i looks totally retarded on a bird.
I hate to see somebody do that to a bird no matter how beatup it is.
I hope that's your winter car.
I'm sure no matter how yellowed your old lights were,they could have been brought back to life somewhat with the proper techniques.


I bet with some kinda filler around the lights and a set of clear covers it would look ok.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 03, 2005, 02:45:44 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
they dont fit

how so? I'm not talking direct bolt-on, but are they a mile off, or just half an inch?  :dunno:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: MasterBlaster on February 03, 2005, 07:04:33 AM
My guess is nobody here has actually tried to fit them.
Best bet would probably be a wrecking yard and a wrench.

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I hate to see somebody do that to a bird no matter how beatup it is.
Stockers are in a box in the closet. I could have them back in within 20 minutes if I wanted.

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I hope that's your winter car.
Yep, winter, spring, summer, fall... 365 days a year for the last 9 years.  8 1/2 with the Franken-lights in there.

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they could have been brought back to life somewhat
Thanks, but I prefer to see more than 20 feet ahead of the car.

I suppose if you like, I could take out the squares, and put in some nice rounds, like a certain "jimfulco" did...... :crazy:

(http://www3.telus.net/neat/pics1/f743aef8.jpg)
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: cougarman on February 03, 2005, 08:08:22 AM
Don't know about Tbird, but I know for sure they will not fit in a Cougar. The Mustangs are taller, a little wider and are at a different angle than the Cougars. :)
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Blackout on February 03, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
They wont fit, as was said before.  And if you did all the work to mount them, why in the heck would you want to hide them behind covers??  I would fit them in some custom enclosures in the front, paint them (The housings ) and try to keep the adjustments working. It would be pretty sick to see lets say.... 03 or 04 mustang lights tucked into a t-bird front end.  Just do it right the first time, or you will probly regret it in the future.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Nate on February 03, 2005, 10:37:25 AM
every aspect except the light socket inside is different, i tryed with my buddys lights, i had a hard enough time fitting the headlight rubber gasket around my light from a mustang. i was thinking of trying to make a metal housing and find somebody that could do glass for the lens so i could run a brighter (much brighter) bulb or 2 in their without changeing the aerodynamic apearance of the stock lights. like i said before, and i agree with masterblaster, i like to be able to see at nite, and  these plastic houseings are getting in my way of that...
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 03, 2005, 01:54:35 PM
you guys are kinda missing the point. as we all know, nobody makes any kind of lights for the Tbirds or cougars, but there are plenty of aftermarket ones for the stangs. my idea was, if the stang lights aren't too far off size-wise, figure some way to mount them in my Tbird. I was looking at the projector lights, they'd be a 1000x improvement over the stock py headlights. I asked if anybody had tried seeing how they fit between the corner and inner lights, to know whether I was wasting my time or not. guess I'll have to go to the junkyard and see if any of the stang lights will fit the Tbirds there, and go from there
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Gw-west on February 03, 2005, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: MasterBlaster
PS: If I ever get off my lazy butt, I'll make some filler panels to cover the inside open space.


Quote from: MasterBlaster
... for the last 9 years.  8 1/2 with the Franken-lights in there.


....after 8 1/2 years, it's very doubtful that you will anytime soon..... :sleep:


 :giggle:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: dominator on February 03, 2005, 05:45:55 PM
Simple response,NO THEY WON'T FIT,anything can be modiefied but it will look stupid.
Sorry to be rude but this thread keeps continuing and it's obvious they won't fit.
Either make them work or don't.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 03, 2005, 06:21:18 PM
someone is being a poopie pants
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: lowcat on February 03, 2005, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
someone is being a poopie pants


Tehehehe :toilet:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: dominator on February 03, 2005, 06:32:15 PM
No just sick of him asking if they fit when he doesn't get the hint that everyone is telling him they won't work.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 03, 2005, 06:43:50 PM
Yay!  Just like Cougarsluts!  Let's argue more!!!  (http://home.neo.rr.com/briansthoughts/images/Smileys/nantard.gif)
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 03, 2005, 06:55:38 PM
Quote from: dominator
No just sick of him asking if they fit when he doesn't get the hint that everyone is telling him they won't work.


if you're so sick of it, GTFO. you have been of no help in this thread. I keep asking because I want to know how badly they don't fit. It's pretty obvious they aren't going to bolt right in, I knew that before even asking. if they did bolt right in we'd all have 'stang replacements in there the day after the first night in the car. and you may think it'd look stupid, but like I said, you have yet to show any proof of that. since cougars2go won't even respond to my pms asking for just the place he got the lights, I have to go a different route, and mustang replacements seem to be as simple as modifying where they mount and, if they're far off enough to look really awkward, put some smoked covers over it.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: lowcat on February 03, 2005, 07:00:34 PM
Makes sense to me. :ies:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Ifixyawata on February 03, 2005, 07:21:32 PM
Somebody wanna lock this?  It's REAL pointless at this... point.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 03, 2005, 07:32:41 PM
no, as long as dominator keeps his pointless posts out of here it's fine. but I doubt I'm the first to think of modifying the panel to get stang headlights in there, I'm not a very original thinker  :dunce: if push comes to shove, I'm sure the part that the headlight bolts to can be cut out of a mustang and welded into the Tbird header panel, and voila they fit. if the lights are shallower than the Tbirds, some spacers or even just welding the plate farther forward. sound like this would work or am I wasting my time dreaming these things up?
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: shame302 on February 03, 2005, 07:39:52 PM
last i knew you could get aftermarket stock replacement headlights for a 87-88 tbird rather easilly on ebay, allbeit at a hefty cost. something like 150 a set.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: nirvanagod on February 03, 2005, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: shame302
last i knew you could get aftermarket stock replacement headlights for a 87-88 tbird rather easilly on ebay, allbeit at a hefty cost. something like 150 a set.


Um, $130 after shipping! Ask me how I know!!!!
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 03, 2005, 07:47:57 PM
sure, you can go with new Tbird lights, but you really don't have any other options. look at all the diff. mustang ones, just at 5.0 Resto
http://secure.50resto.com/category.cfm?SID=1&Category_ID=889
http://secure.50resto.com/category.cfm?SID=1&Category_ID=90

I'm particularly interested in the projectors, cuz then my car would be one of a kind, and would actually look different
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 03, 2005, 08:46:45 PM
I know that 87-93 Mustang guys often install 89-95 MN12 T-Bird headlights because they're not happy with the stock Mustang units. It takes a bit of custom work, but custom work is what being a car guy is all about.

Lights that I'd like to see someone try in a T-Bird or Cougar are 98-05 Crown Vic lights. It'd require completely restyling the whole front end, but they are cool lights...
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: jasontbird on February 03, 2005, 11:09:26 PM
I say put some kc daylighters behind the grill. :)

I think you should do the stang lights, make em fit, and post pics of them when your done.  If there's one lesson Ive learned, everything fits if you spend enough time on it.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: slamedcat on February 03, 2005, 11:12:21 PM
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I say put some kc daylighters behind the grill. 


He wants to see the road not melt the grill :giggle:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: jasontbird on February 04, 2005, 12:06:06 AM
lol
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 12:24:30 AM
yeah the crown vic lights are cool, but everyone would drive 20mph in front of me cuz they'd think I was a cop  :grinno:
I think the whole swapping the mounting plate from stang to bird should probably work, given that the lights themselves are close enough in size. this weekend probably I'll go to the yard and see the differences and see if this would work
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: shame302 on February 04, 2005, 12:30:24 AM
ah.. i see what your getting at. forgive me for being slow. anyway...not exactly a projector light but maybe some 02 newer lights could be cut down and customized to fit. i thought about the mustang projector lights offered in brothers performance. something like that WOULD be realy trick. something to think about i guess. good luck with em.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 01:14:35 AM
just found somethin interesting, how to make angel eye light rings http://plaza.umin.ac.jp/~satoshi/mod152en.html dunno how it'd look on those projector lights, maybe if i get my dumb ass to work on homework I can photoshop it on there afterwards :p
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 01:19:03 AM
and here's the lights I was looking at using if I could get em to fit
(http://images.andale.com/f2/123/104/13418839/1099191775666_LHP_MST87_APCa.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7951183463&category=33710
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 02:38:31 AM
oh, and those lights list for 300 bucks on summit, on ebay they're ~155  :wtf:  :screwy:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: bduly on February 04, 2005, 02:54:43 AM
I didn't read the entire post, so I'm sorry if someone suggested this....but couldn't you cut the mustang projector lamps out of the housing and install them in a t-bird housing? Then you wouldn't have to deal with new brackets and poorly fitting marker lights and have really trick headlights. Just a thought.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 03:06:08 AM
no that hasn't been suggested, but I don't think I'd want to chance ruining a pair of $150 lights, and I don't know anything about how they're constructed in the first place. i'm going to just go to the yard, pay $2 to get in and see if the lights will work before spending anything more on the project
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: CougarSE on February 04, 2005, 03:48:52 AM
Man my favorite J-yard is freeeeeee!  I like the idea of getting the projector lamps in a set of t bird buckets.  But it would still look like  because they would be surrounded by yellow marker lights unless you shelled out the cash for new ones.  I like this idea though.  If you had posted that pic in the begining I think fewer harsh words would have left somebody's fingertips.
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: zpyro on February 04, 2005, 04:30:43 AM
yeah the yard I go to is a Pick-n-Pull, they charge 2 bucks for admission, cuz they know you're gonna take 5lbs of nuts, bolts, fuses, lights, and other small stuff :D and the marker lights, probably would need to be polished up, but that's no biggie. I'm sure new ones wouldn't be as expensive as new headlights (at least I hope not)

and if it still looks like ass, that's what the covers are for :p at least until an asshole cop pulls me over  :giggle:
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: dominator on February 04, 2005, 07:13:55 AM
Yea exactly a pointless thread,and if you don't like my comments zpyro you can G.F.Y.S.!
Instead of bothering just about everyone on the board after 5 pages of people telling you they won't fit, and that nobodies stupid enough to try it but you, just go and hack it up yourself then post the pics so we can all laugh at you!
Title: Re: How would fox stang lights fit?
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 04, 2005, 08:35:56 AM
*sigh*