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Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 01, 2007, 12:23:33 AM
About 3 years ago, I picked up a shadow - brand new for just under $5K.  Since I couldn't afford a night train, and didn't really care for the Harley nameplate; I've been slowly moving towards the blackout look.  Hopefully I'll get the engine powder coated black this winter and the project will be more or less done. 

Feel free to ad criticism, ideas, etc.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: FLYN83BIRD on June 01, 2007, 12:32:02 AM
looks nice I will post some pics of the bike I just got.  It's and early 80's 400 nighthawk all chopped up and it's a hardtail.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: blu84302 on June 01, 2007, 01:11:36 AM
Diggin the all black.  Keep up the good work.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Prototype Services on June 01, 2007, 02:02:41 AM
I thought about blacking out my GSXR.
I like you young guys here!
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Post by: daboss351 on June 01, 2007, 07:03:32 AM
looks good!
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Chooglin on June 01, 2007, 04:09:08 PM
Looking good !!!!! some drag pipes would look good on that bike.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: 84 Fila on June 01, 2007, 05:12:25 PM
Drag pipes and drag bars. Just :2c:
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Post by: Chooglin on June 01, 2007, 09:53:46 PM
not trying to hyjack this, but this is a video of cobra slash cut drags, with no baffles.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j85m_KsJPjI
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 01, 2007, 10:31:25 PM
Hm, what did my dad do wrong?

He put drag pipes on his Shadow (actually, they're basically just slip on straight pipes that replace the lers and still have the crossover). It sounds alright at idle, but when he's going down the road it sounds exactly like his Ford 2 cylinder diesel tractor (i.e. nothing like a harley)

Is it the crossover pipe that makes it sound py like that?
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 02, 2007, 12:35:06 AM
I'm really satisfied with the sound I have at the moment, I just drilled out the baffles in the stock setup and it sounds A LOT bigger than it is.  Dare I say, like a harley. My next move is to pick up some drag bars, and get the engine done and it will be pretty much set to go.  It's incredibly nimble and great in town, but this is my last bike before I pick up a Victory hammer.  has anyone driven one of those?  I took one out a couple weeks back, and WOW!  I felt like the front tire was coming up for sure.  The bike was stock, too.  So yeah...
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: blu84302 on June 02, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
If you haven't demo'd a V-rod yet then do it before you buy a hammer.  Plenty of stock power in a v-rod.

(http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/1/5/3/9/3/Smokey.JPG)
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 02, 2007, 12:50:07 PM
Not a Harley guy, sorry...  I'm so tired of the image they've created.  Sure, they've got classic style, plenty of power, but i can't justify paying more for the nameplate on a mediocre motorcycle.  I have had way too many friends stranded for some reason or other on their harleys.  My bike needs to live on the road, not in the shop
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 02, 2007, 07:58:20 PM
Quote from: Red_LX;151227
Hm, what did my dad do wrong?

He put drag pipes on his Shadow (actually, they're basically just slip on straight pipes that replace the lers and still have the crossover). It sounds alright at idle, but when he's going down the road it sounds exactly like his Ford 2 cylinder diesel tractor (i.e. nothing like a harley)

Is it the crossover pipe that makes it sound py like that?


What model shadow is it?  I know that the single pin crank design has a LOT to do with the sound.  Any of the bigger and newer models have the offset design, which makes for a smoother running engine, but takes away from the rumble.  Maybe this is the case?
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: jcassity on June 03, 2007, 12:34:18 AM
theres gotta be room somewhere for a bird or coug emblem.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on June 03, 2007, 07:10:36 AM
With the jugs (cylinders you perv), id paint them black, and then polish the tops of the fins, it gives a very nice contrast, while still keeping it rather blacked out.

Black with a good amount of chrome and polish is great.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 04, 2007, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;151447
With the jugs (cylinders you perv), id paint them black, and then polish the tops of the fins, it gives a very nice contrast, while still keeping it rather blacked out.

Black with a good amount of chrome and polish is great.


Definitely a good idea.  I'm not quite sure how to go about it though..  Maybe get it all blacked out and then grind back down to bare metal on the fins?  It's aluminum so it shouldn't rust.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 04, 2007, 12:35:43 PM
Quote from: amooset;151360
What model shadow is it?  I know that the single pin crank design has a LOT to do with the sound.  Any of the bigger and newer models have the offset design, which makes for a smoother running engine, but takes away from the rumble.  Maybe this is the case?

After looking at some pictures on Google, I'm pretty sure he has a Honda Shadow Spirit. 2003, I think...
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 04, 2007, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: amooset;151747
Definitely a good idea.  I'm not quite sure how to go about it though..  Maybe get it all blacked out and then grind back down to bare metal on the fins?  It's aluminum so it shouldn't rust.

Thats exactly how you do it. Paint them black, then use a sander of sorts, start with 220 untill the paints gone, then work your way up to 1500, itll shine like a mirror.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 05, 2007, 02:04:12 AM
Quote from: Red_LX;151751
After looking at some pictures on Google, I'm pretty sure he has a Honda Shadow Spirit. 2003, I think...

The spirit is an 1100 cc, which was made with the offset crank, not the single pin.  With that design, he'll never get the harley tone but it will run smooth as can be.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 05, 2007, 09:53:25 AM
Ahhh...


All this talk about motorcycles makes me want one...if nothing else, for the fuel economy. amooset, yours looks pretty cool, I like it. What year is that, BTW?

I'd love to have something small like an 883 sportster to scoot around town, course for what a used one of those costs I could probably get another brand in a nicer model.

But hell, I've never even ridden a motorcycle before, and they're so impractical...I don't have that kind of money to spend on something that I could ride maybe half the year at most.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 08, 2007, 12:13:55 AM
Quote from: Red_LX;152004

All this talk about motorcycles makes me want one...if nothing else, for the fuel economy. amooset, yours looks pretty cool, I like it. What year is that, BTW?

Mine is an '04 Shadow VLX Deluxe.  Ironically, the deluxe packages came with extra chrome, which I promptly removed or plan to, lol. 

Fuel economy?  I get about 60mpg on a good day around town.  My highway mileage is lower because I usually drive close to full throttle the whole time (which is about 90 mph).  Driving like that will warrant me a hair over 50 mpg. 

Cost?  Like I said, I got it out the door for 5K brand new.  The payments on it are basically free when I do the math on how much gas my car would have guzzled for the same amount of mileage.  It may sound impractical, but in the long run it's worth it if you're willing to bundle up when the roads are clear of snow or throw on a rain suit when the stormshiznit.

For a first time rider, I would highly recommend the model I have.  It's my second bike and still is beefy enough for zipping around town and short (100-200 mile) road trips.  The long wheel base, forward controls, and v-twin engine make it very harleyesque which was probably their intention.  The only reason I would consider an upgrade is for the longer road trips I would like to take.

If you are looking for a good starter bike, you can't go wrong with this one.  Easy to handle, light weight, and CHEAP!  Upkeep is simple, reliability is great.  In 12,000 miles, I've only done basic maintenance (tires, plugs, oil) and it runs like a champ even after I beat the tar out of it.  If you have any questions about picking up a bike, drop me a line.  Though I'm kind of partial to honda, I know a fair amount about bikes in general.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 08, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
So how do you learn to ride a motorcycle...:dunno:


A guy I work with just got a Honda Rebel, I noticed you can get 2003 models of them for $2000 and wow that's cheap. I feel like I'd want something cooler though.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Chooglin on June 08, 2007, 07:14:01 PM
that is a 583 cc liquid cooled,single carb, he has. I wondered how he got that kind of gas mileage.Mine is a 750cc liquid cooled, dual carb and I get about 47 mpg on the highway.

I would stay away from a rebel (250 cc) those things sound like they are going to self distruct at highway speeds.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: ajsbird on June 08, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: amooset;152555
Mine is an '04 Shadow VLX Deluxe.  Ironically, the deluxe packages came with extra chrome, which I promptly removed or plan to, lol. 

Fuel economy?  I get about 60mpg on a good day around town.  My highway mileage is lower because I usually drive close to full throttle the whole time (which is about 90 mph).  Driving like that will warrant me a hair over 50 mpg. 

Cost?  Like I said, I got it out the door for 5K brand new.  The payments on it are basically free when I do the math on how much gas my car would have guzzled for the same amount of mileage.  It may sound impractical, but in the long run it's worth it if you're willing to bundle up when the roads are clear of snow or throw on a rain suit when the stormshiznit.

For a first time rider, I would highly recommend the model I have.  It's my second bike and still is beefy enough for zipping around town and short (100-200 mile) road trips.  The long wheel base, forward controls, and v-twin engine make it very harleyesque which was probably their intention.  The only reason I would consider an upgrade is for the longer road trips I would like to take.

If you are looking for a good starter bike, you can't go wrong with this one.  Easy to handle, light weight, and CHEAP!  Upkeep is simple, reliability is great.  In 12,000 miles, I've only done basic maintenance (tires, plugs, oil) and it runs like a champ even after I beat the tar out of it.  If you have any questions about picking up a bike, drop me a line.  Though I'm kind of partial to honda, I know a fair amount about bikes in general.

A close friend of mine has a vlx. Its a nice bike and sounds almost as good as my domestic v-twin. He has vance and hines pipes on it.
It is an excellent starter bike! And for those who want to learn some community colleges have rider safety coarses.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 08, 2007, 10:56:07 PM
Heh, actually after doing some reading, I'd say the Rebel is a no go for me....since I'm 6'4" and about 260 lbs....way too small I think.

I found that they have motorcycle training courses locally but they're $100. Bleh, well maybe I'll see if I can do that someday but I can't afford it at the moment.

Something that I thought was rather odd was that I went on Geico to see how much insurance would be...even with more coverage than I have on my auto insurance, and a $500 deductible on the bike (assuming I had a vlx), it was HALF the price of my auto insurance ($283 a year vs. $284/6 months for liability only on my car). I even put the usage down as commuting. Why is that?
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Post by: ajsbird on June 09, 2007, 01:57:56 PM
Check this vlx out!
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Post by: Clayton on June 09, 2007, 02:35:20 PM
i agree with shawn... paint the jugs and sand the fins down. it'll look badass. paint the crankcase black too. and from there youre set
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Post by: Red_LX on June 09, 2007, 11:13:11 PM
I've never been a fan of choppers...they just look weird.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: amooset on June 10, 2007, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: Red_LX;152805
Heh, actually after doing some reading, I'd say the Rebel is a no go for me....since I'm 6'4" and about 260 lbs....way too small I think.

I found that they have motorcycle training courses locally but they're $100. Bleh, well maybe I'll see if I can do that someday but I can't afford it at the moment.

Something that I thought was rather odd was that I went on Geico to see how much insurance would be...even with more coverage than I have on my auto insurance, and a $500 deductible on the bike (assuming I had a vlx), it was HALF the price of my auto insurance ($283 a year vs. $284/6 months for liability only on my car). I even put the usage down as commuting. Why is that?


Even at your size, the vlx would  be fine to start on.  I'm 6'1" and 300 and it has no problem carrying my lard-ass.  I'm not sure how things work in your area, but you may just be able to take a written and skills test to get your license.  The course, although helpful, is not required here. 

The insurance thing is actually pretty logical if you think about it.  When motorcycle accidents do happen, usually it's the rider that ends up damaged, not the other vehicle.  Also, since a majority of collisions are NOT the fault of the biker, the responsible party is usually the car/truck involved.  To some extent, people with auto insurance are paying more to cover the fact that there are motorcycles on the road.  I think it's something like 8%?  Correct me if i'm wrong, it's been awhile since I've read up on this.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: TucanSam on June 11, 2007, 12:43:47 PM
I bought an 06 750 Shadow Aero for $5500.  60mpg, $270 a year for insurance.

I sold my 04 F150.

The bike is saving me over $300 a month in payment, insurance, maintenence, and gas.

Im going to put saddlebags on her so I can carry more, as it stands Im going to sell my 05 Mustang because Ive only put about 1000 miles on her since December.  I cant see paying for a car I dont drive.  That will leave me with 2 bikes and the TC.  I also have a basket case 82 Goldwing that Im slowing rebuilding.  Liability insurance on the GW is $11.50 a month.

Best move Ive made in years.

I also live in Tucson, at least 10 months of riding a year.
Title: The ongoing motorcycle project
Post by: Red_LX on June 11, 2007, 12:59:31 PM
We don't have much motorcycle weather here...that's what sucks. April is even a stretch sometimes weather wise, and you might have nice enough weather to ride until maybe late october...so you get about 6 months, 7 max if the weather stays nice.

I spose if you were driving a lot you could save a good bit in that time though.