I got bored so i figured id take the inner lens out of the side marker i got yesterday and make a new one. i like it what do you guys think?
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Looks nice and ricey! J/K Now remeber the amber bulbs!
i need amber bulbs???? thats not my turn signal they are up front or so i thought
wait what lense is that? whered you get the reflectorness? off a bike? lol put it on the car n shed some light of what it'd look like on the car.
its actually a panel that youd put over floresent lighting. once i get back ill throw it on and show you
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i love it!!!
Not bad.
im def gonna do something else to them, but im just fooling around with the ones i got extra
hmmm, that does look good and trick... but theres gotta be a trick when they come on..... something....
all that i can muster up after beating gh2 in hard mode is add some contrast to it? like a blacked out lip that goes around the lense. i mean, in the pics i see a small area ontop and bottom of the light that could be either body colored or blacked out. the first trick thing i could think of was instead of clear, amber 100% but thats just me.
I wonder if you can warm that stuff up enough to lightly bend it. Hmmm got to try it I guess.
I should try that. Looks nice.
Lol @ Incoln.
the stuff is VERY brittle, and i think warming it would make it milky in color, and make it pr0ne to snap
Looks sharp.
It looks like you could fab a pice to fit the t=bird reflector location... it would look better than just removing the amber reflector and calling it a day. Good Job!
thanks i just got bored and im looking to change up anything i can on the car to make it original, nothing major, just cheap mods that change the whole look of it.
pics of how its done i did the second one
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reflector out
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trace shape
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score with knife snap it
grind to fit on bench grinder and it fits!!
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looks pretty good! i wouldnt cover the whole length of it though.
not sure waht else im gonna do this is jsut for shiznits and gigles they are spares
I admire your creativity.
I used that same material to make a rear footwell lamp on my '88 XR7. I removed the ashtray from the back of the console, installed a 12v lamp in the cavity, and used that panel material to make a lense. It was perfect.
Do the tail lights too. I know a way to do this using nothing but the fatory pieces. PM me for mor info.
Nice job! I think I will give that a shot.
do you have any pics of them installed with the lights on?
JUST finished putting the front end on (nose), riped it all off replaced a bunch of stuff, pics soon since im going out to get one with the lights on quick
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new nose
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unlighted clear courners
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lighted
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for some reason i can't find a hazard light switch, and my blinkers dont come on........
I swear this is like a Fila wana be thread,lol. Lookin good man, keep up the work
thanks, and yea its ognne be a fila wanna be but only for me to show you guys what ive been doing, and for opinions, and answers. The car has been repainted...... i found bondo on a fender, and massive overspray, plus it had a regular mark grill not the LSC one. Fixed that today though!!!
im thinking im gonna do the body work from the trim down, and rattle can it satin black, along with a bunch of trim, what do you guys think? either satin black or silver
"stinkin' lincoln" haha i like it!!!!
Nooooooo !!! Don't rattle can the body on that car.If you do,it'll look like........well......a rattle can paint job.Save your money and do it right.Man,you guys are killing me with these cheap a$$ fixes.
This kinda belongs in the User Rides section...
...movin' on over
thanks, it didn't at first, but now it does belong here. i want to rattle can BELOW the trim ONLY cause its suppose to be blue and gray on the bottom, so the new body pecie i put on doesn't match.
Do you know how to do body work,like sanding,color sanding,etc?If not,read up on it and practice on an old hood or fender somewhere,then approach your car.You'll need to sand it and make sure everything is nice and well done,then,spray the paint (you probably won't need primer if you're using grey,black would suck),then,go back and smooth out the paint with some 1000,1500,and 2000 grit,then clear,let it dry and cure,the buff it out.To do it right can take a while,and you'll have to really mask off the car well to prevent overspray from getting on the good paint.If the paint is metallic on your car,use a good metallic dark grey,like a charcoal grey,etc.(there are many shades of grey),and use an auto paint,not Krylon or anything like that.Take your time and do it right.You'll appreciate your work,and be glad you took the time.Make sure you wet sand the areas to be painted well,and use a good chemical (whatever you like,I like the pre-paint cleaning cloths) to wipe the surface down,and a tac clothto remove the dust.Good luck.
yea i learned on my honda bike, i spent f hours wet sanding the side covers to get it somewhat decent and they still arn't that good. when i do it im gonna do it right
got a head unit, and 4 5 1/4 speakers today for freeeeee
the head unit is a jvc, and the speakers are kenwood excelon. Im downgrading the door speakers for now with them, cause my door speakers are mix matched. Now i can tell waht the sounds system is like in this thing!
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Go buy a stereo installation kit so you don't have to cut the factory harness.
Looks like someone got a nasty surprise when they got off work today...
How are Kenwoods downgrading? Do you have Diamond or Alpine or something in your doors? Thats a helluva deal for free. Please buy and install kit it wires up easy as hell. And paint your car the right way. Spray can is no good unless you know what your doing, and then its not always good.
factory harness has already been raped, door speakers on my car are 6 1/2 these are 5 1/4, they are awesome speakers which is why they are going in. They came from my moms boyfriends POS jeep thats going ot the junkyard im no theif
ok so right now im saveing for suspension componants, brakes, and exausht. Anyone selling lers with flow tubes let me know. 2 1/2 only with the ball s.
im getting used front shocks to replace my leaking ones. id like ot use all new stuff but getting it going on used stuff is much better for my situation
still need fuel lines badly, had to move it today, lost about 1 gallon of gas and stalled it in the road, and had to jump it in the middle of the road. spun the tires up though, which royally pissed off my mom!
When I get back from carisle you can have my H pipe back.
are you serious?? what are you running for lers, and how much we looking at, ill have to start saving my pennies. If you do this man you will totally KICK ASS!! im more then happy with that h which still needs to go in, having my relative with a shop and lift help me with that one.
finished installing the nose, and im gonna paint the grill soon. No pics yet. saving up for the fuel lines, and rest of the exhaust so its getting there slowly!
What do you plan on running for the rest of the exhaust bro?
what ever kitzdnm is running that hes selling me
When you paint the grille,use a quality paint,and prep the surface really good.Glad to hear you made a little more progress.eep it up,take your time,and enjoy it.
yea im gonna use that adhesion promoter too, and good stuff, its called SEM trim black, i got to get some, gonna do all the trim and black out some stuff with it.
yep so its official, the car has been fuged up before. there was a questionable spot that looked litle it was fudged over, so i said to hell with it, and punched it, sure enough it crumbled reveling a rotted fender covered in some green . someone covered rust with bondo type stuff, which makes me wonder if theres any more on the car since its been painted.....
other then that haven't done much to it. waiting on money and people to get parts for me to buy, and now i have to keep an eye out for 2 front fenders. new england weather!!
I just read about trim painting in one of my new Mustang magazines.I read it on the plane trip out here to Cali.Next time you're in Oklahoma,I know where a few Mark VII's are for parts.
lol not sure ill be that far out any time soon, and unless they are blue i dont want them. i DONT want to paint the car.
o and my friend thinks his buddys little V6 5 speed dakota with "all the mods" which is an intake and exhaust will smoke the shiznit out of my lincoln. i cant wait till october, that little dakota is going DOWN, to a real motor, those v6's SUCK they have no power, and shiznitty gas mileage my dad has one.
ok so ive been working here and there doing stupid shiznit earned some more money, just waiting for aero with the fuel lines sometime this week, then the exausht, and shiznit its getting closer to being streetable! makes all the problems worth it! plus i might be getting a free compressor soon! everyone let me know when and how much money you guys need to get those parts my way! its sitten hear waiting!
What do ya need? Hit me with a list and i'll raid the JY and see what I can snag. Do remember there are bearly any fox's there. I can do explorer stuff though
as of right now the parts they have are the only used stuff i need. next comes front bushings, and front brakes
well i found out the front shocks off the guy on LoL is gonna cost me about 90 shipped. so aero, and kitzdnm, let me know the prices shipped for the exhaust and fuel lines, so i can crunch numbers and see what im gonna have left, or how much more i need. exhaust and fuel lines from you guys is first.
so kitzdnm are you gonna sell me the exhaust or no? cause if not im gonna buy my new bushings for up front
Daboss is this the speaker mounts you were talking about a while ago that you need?
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they look similar but mine are plastic
just sent 50 to kitzdmn for tail pipes, when aero has time from working on the nismo machino ill get my fuel lines(no rush man i know ill get them when you can), and friday im sending out 90 for front shocks. im slowly but surly getting what i need to get her road ready! then at my dads in getting the turbo coupe sway bar, and steering wheel, and what ever else i can find. plus ill be working doing odd jobs done there saving money for brakes, and bushings. its gonna be a mad dash to get her done by october 17th
O and anyone with 2 1/2 lers and flow tubes, let me know i just need those and ill have a full exhaust
i got subs!!!
2 10 inch older rockford punch's in a ported box. I traded a gas scooter for them, and i only payed 10 bucks for the scooter! my friend is borrowing them, so he took a vid. not bad. Anyone know the wattage they take?
he removed the vid, ill post it when the new one is up
my 10 dollar subs and box!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dzPs9baTqk
Nice subs. It cracks me up how bass makes mics it's bitch.
yea i keep findind distractions that make this car get pushed back, sending out money for shocks tomorrow, and possibly money to aero for the lines. once the fuel lines are set, im checking the brakes and its getting my brothers plates and a quick down the street test drive, im itching to do it, its illegal blah blah, but its the only way i can stay interested, i need stisfaction!! tail pipes should be in monday, then i get to start custom fabing the 45's to kick out behind the rear tires, then i still need flow tubes and lers. come i know someone has some, but cheap i hope my bank account is hurting till i get a job. shes a money pit but gonna be worth it! im hoping to get everything moked and weld it at my dads over the 5 weeks in there. maybe while im down there getting a welder and a air compressor, plus im bringing home my honda motorcycle, which i might end up selling to fund this. even though i dont wanna sell my 30 dollar now custom 1973 honda cl350 it looks like it might be the best move. anyone with parts that they want gone cheap that i could use let me know i need all the breaks i can get, and so far the guys on here, and FvC have been life savers and have kept me interested and happy with this car. I cant wait till october
and a side note, i suck at stick. My mom was gonna let me move the cobra today, and i stalled it 4 times, and moved it up a inch, thing has a stiff clutch, and i get scared as it rolls down the drive way backwards so i let off the brakes and clutch and done. O well ill get it some day
I checked a few places you can get the flow tubes for $30 new.
Probably less at discount parts stores.Do you want that linc louder or stock?
louder then stock, thats why im doing full 2 1/2 stock tail pipes on my car were 1 1/2 i think?
you cover the shipping you can have the lers,I took a beatin on the t-pipes.
not really interested in them that much, i have some flowmasters laying around that i could use. How bad did the tails kill you? i can send more money in the mail if you want. just not with paypal my mom is getting mad i keep using her credit card lol
Don't worry about it they would of just layed around anyway.
ok thanks again man, for the h pipe and now the tails. Because your so nice its getting closer to road ready, plus it will have a little more bite!
gah power steering rack just blew out when i moved it to mow the lawn........
and now im broke....... and i have no job yet, because im going to my dads for 5 weeks, guys i KNOW you need parts. LET ME KNOW, i dont care WHAT it is, I WILL SELL IT if i have it and its good, i need funds cause i REALLY dont wanna sell this car, and buy some other junker..
How do you destroy a car without goin any where?
Do you have my list?
Oh,I need the front and rear TC fender trim,all 4 pieces.....if they are in decent shape.
so trim and quarter windows?
and as far as "destorying it" i didnt, i started and it it went POOF! the car sat for a long time without being able to run so my guess is the seals in the rack went bad. Makes me scared to think if anything else is messed up......
Steering racks aren't hard to change.You will need a front end alignment when you swap it out,though.Yes,that's what I need.....IF the 1/4 window rubber is in good shape.If it's totally dry rotted,just the fender trim.
got a guy that told me i can have his power steering rack if i go pick it up, its a newer unit, but its to responsive for him, and he wants it gone, so im gonna grab it, free and working is better then 80-100 bucks for a new one, since im broke. Got the tails for the car, ordering the flow tubes from summit, and not sure what im doing for lers yet. aero just has to ship the lines once i pay him, and now i have connections at the loyal syard, so ill know when the next mark comes in, and im gonna go rape it for all its worth! im gonna have to run a junkyard brake set up for now till i can replace it, anything is better then the rotted shiznit thats on it. The future is getting better for her!!!
well aero is the BOMB, the lines will be here today, he pulled them and sent them without telling me! so now i got to get the money out to him. Hopefully tomorrow once i get the tool to remove the fittings(i need someone to tell me what its called) they will be in and the car running correctly! I cant wait to be able to let the car run for more then a little while!
Good luck.take your time.Sometimes those lines are a little tricky,and stubborn after all these years.Clean the fittings where the lines connect really good first to keep an from potentially getting in the lines.
I'm just waiting for the post on how the lines will have to be cut and spliced to work...
o well! they didnt come today anyway as far as i can tell!
well since the nylon part was cut off the lines, they have to be spliced in. The lines are different, but they fit in where my old ones were they WILL work, with a little work. went out and spent the money and bought a quick disconnect tool set, and a double flareing tool, and ONE fitting. Stupid pepboys never has everything i need, they said the other should be in tomorrow, so im gonna go get it and pray it doesnt rain. My goal is getting it running before i leave, mostly cause my dad is gonna look at it, and i REALLY wanna go for a quick spin before i go, just to feel how much more the mustang pulls over the lincoln. Some guy in mass is giving me a power steering rack from his car for free, he says the weighing on it is off, so its really responsive. I dont care, its money im saving. I thank everyone thats helped me along this far, if it wasnt for the support of everyone on hear, ford vs chevy, and lincolns on line, i think i would have sold her by now!
and aero hope you got the money i just rounded up from 38.15 and sent you 40. Only cause you keep to your promise and got me the lines, and sent them before i payed. YOU ROCK man!
Any parts for the Bird?
Take out the subs and read the back, serial or product number and google it. That will tell you what wattage you should run. Get her going man.
im leaving sunday to go down to my dads, and im not sure when ill be able to update about the parts. I might have mikey(fila) post up about what i have since i have his number, and im searching for stuff for him too
Will do lil buddie. Just hit me with pice/info and you start a thread about it and I'll keep it updated
thanks that way you can tell them, and when i can update ill get pics up. I dont think im gonna be doing much shipping form down there, unless people need parts asap. I have tons of work to do. and i need to find dew wipes for my car bad, my doors are filling with water! and my power window and lock is already junk....
put the painted grill on, put the painted inside trim back in, got the old lines out new ones in, all i have to do is get the RIGHT fittings, and flare and stick them together and turn the key. Shes getting there, and man shes looking good!
You don't drive do you?
I wish I could tear into my car like that. Maybe I should buy a $100 beater or something..
i have my permit, which makes it easier to work on, car was 540 bucks i might have about 650, 700 in her right now plus the cost of the car. should be fun to drive
i fed up bad, i cut the line after the bend to flare it and the fitting wont slide back far enough to let me flare the line stupid nylon shiznit is in the way. So ive wasted 55 on parts 30 on tools
my poor car
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where i had to leave off
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my **** up
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how badly the thunderbird lines dont fit
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tryed to take the nylon off the line, cut to far in and cut off the line inside too. ruined them. Now im back to looking for a full line set, and the 40 dollar t bird lines are useless, the 5 dollar fittings are useless and the 30 dollar tools are useless. and im broke
patch the old lines then
what for? read all the posts i cut the lines
oh, that sucks.
see what happens when impatience over runs logic? :hick: how the hell were you going to get a fitting on a bend? you can still patch it if you cut back a little more to splice in another piece of tubing. is there not anybody around to help you?
i tryed cutting back now im at the nubs that hold the nylon on the metal. i thought i could get the fitting over the bend to flare the straight part, when i couldnt get it down far enough i tryed to lessen the bend, and i bent in the line, so i cut it off at the elbow and it was to short, so i tryed to cut the nylon, and i cut in to far. And no im the only one around with any automotive know how, so im left to figure things out on my own. And of course because i tryed to shoehorn parts that didnt belong in the easy way i now in turn made more work for myself, and i lost money. See in the pic where my thumb is the little nub, thats where the line ends now. I tryed to rush and screwed up. now i have to find new lines, i still need to do all the brakes, and i need to get new rear shocks, my drivers side door wont lock, nor will the window go down, the water pump is leaking, and the power steering is gone. you see why im getting frustrated and trying to get things done?
If I remember right,I said "be patient,take your time".Until you learn patience,and quit trying to rush the job,you'll keep seting yourself back further and further.If it's a matter of time,if you don't have time to di the jo right the first time,then how are you going to find time to do it twice?I've been working on my car for months.I had hoped to be finished by now,paint and all,but,to make sure everything is right,I'm still working.The good thing,I haven't had to go back and re-do everything.We all learn from mistakes,but a few of you guys just keep repeating the same mistakes.Spend money,wait for parts,get in a hurry,mess it up,start over.Slow down and do it right.If you don't have the right parts,work on something else until you find what you need,not just parts that might work.Good luck.You need it.
well im alot better now. It was a gamble on the t bird lines, so now i guess im being forced to do it right! which really isnt a big deal. i have been iffy about bubble gumming it this whole time cause fuel lines are a big thing. When im at my dads we are gonna do alot of junkyarding and im gonna try and get all the parts i need for the car when im down there. we are even gonna try and get me gt 40 heads and intake. but thats after the important things i need. I wish he was up here to help me, i know i sometimes get carried away, but up to this point ive been doing good on the car, and i learned from my mistake today. Im not gonna gamble with stupid things like that anymore. And if i dont know enough about what im doing, im gonna look for help before i jump in head first
Fuel lines,exhaust,spark plugs,it doesn't matter what the task is.Take your time,study hat you're doing,ask questions until you understand what you need to do,then,look over everything,not just the part you're working on,but what's around that part.Get a feel of the territory so to speak.Know your surroundings.There's a lot of people here to walk you through it,but it's how you carry out the task that makes the difference.We can suggest anything........Like patience for example,but you have to make the ultimate decisions.
yea i understand. No more rushing on this thing. I need it to be done right, and im gonna do it right now! plus i mgiht be getting a part time job at a garage, and ill have access to a lift, help and tools. Now i just hope i can get a job there, if not he will still help me, but i might have to pay
and how are you going to do it "right"? those lines can still be patched. it may require buying about 5' more tubing, but it CAN be done.
but i would also have to get one fo those stupid tool kits for the nylon lines. so F that, im getting lines from another mark if i can find them, along with tons of other parts, and possibly gt40 heads and intake! my dads doing this portion for me, along with all the t bird and cougar parts to sell to you guys!
FINALLY GOT MY LINES!! I need to splice the NYLON into the nylon quick connects i have which is 2 1 dollar specific purpose splices. Found a guy selling used drilled rear rotors, 15 bucks, new front pads 15 bucks, and new front drilled rotors 80. So i pushing to buy them all, cause my car needs that stuff bad, and its all cheaper then buying new stock replacements!
Well I might be trading vin parts for good dew wipes. The only difference with mark dew wipes and t bird dew wipes ive been told is where they leet the mirror. Looks like its a new project time!!! Add t bird mirrors to a mark 7! Ill lose the heater mirror, but i wanted to try the bird mirror on anyway so it just needs the harnesses spliced which should be simple. I'm gonna have a very unique mark. Anyone have a good cruise control turbo coupe steering wheel they could trade me for parts i have? The one from my dads parts car has a chunk hanging out of the top, and is deteriorating. Its better then what i had.
Well my mom told me today shes sick of me complaining about my car, and is gonna loan me the money to finish it. As much as I don't want to, I want to. Getting brakes ASAP, and the fittings i need to get the new fuel lines in. After that finishing the exhaust, and mikey is suppose to be sending me a power steering line, if not a new one of those to get the rack in. Then the tail light, and trim clips, Vinnie's gonna hook me up with dew wipes and a door lock actuator. Things are looking good.
Sending out a money order soon for new front pads and rotors, and used rear rotors. Drilled units. The whole package comes to cheaper then new stock replacements so I'm grabbing them. Next comes custom flow tubes. Should be coming together in the next few weeks
Now,
that would look cool. I never liked the bulky, ostentatious chrome mirrors on the Mark VIIs; especially on the LSCs or LSC SEs. If you could go the monochromatic route (like the SEs) and make the mirrors body color, it would be mondo smooth.
Let us know how that works out.
Well i looked into it. Mark mirrors are heated so the harness is different, BUT the wires have the same colors. So I figure if i cut and splice them together, remove the other pins for the heated part they should work. Then I want to black out the trim. I want subtle but different mods on mine, thats why i grabbed the mirrors. Once vin finds me some good dew wipes I'm gonna try it. I'll get some pics. I hope it looks as good as I think it will.
Ok, High preasure power steering hose is in the mail! Brakes are gonna be 140 shipped, which is fine by me. Flow tubes custom made at 24 inches for the mark is gonna be 60 bucks. Everything is coming together, I'm getting so excited I want parts so I can finish this pig!
Question. Would it be stupid to reuse mt old tie rod ends? They are replacements with grease fittings, and they seem pretty good. I'm just gonna clean the old grease out and put all new fresh in there, unless you guys think while I have everything apart I should just replace them?
Hope to have the rack in early next week, fuel lines in around then as well. Then comes a new brake line, and the new rear rotors, front rotors and front pads. Then my new h pipe!
Are you using a new power steering hose?They don't cost much at all.
no......
Brand new front drilled rotors, front pads, and used rear drilled rotors showed up today!! Going to get the other little things I need, and stuffing them in tomorrow!! I'm getting excited now, the end is coming!
"The end is coming"?That doesn't sound good.LOL.I may be buying a '90 Mark VII.Mint condition except the brakes SUCK.Sunroof,leather,LSC edition,aluminum wheels,white with the black rockers.I'm waiting to hear from the owner for a price.
its charcoal rockers, and the 90 has the BBS wheels. Good choice, you won't be disappointed! Throw your exploder intake on, a exhaust, turbo coupe sway bar, and some good shocks and you will be in love!
And i mean the end of all the waiting !
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Not bad for 140
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drilled rotors excite me!
Youre prolly gonna lose your ABS with those.
one rotor has the abs ring, the other doesnt. I was told i could swap the ring over so, Ill have to see.
Good luck with your car.As far as the one I'm wanting.I actually won't do anything to it to mod it.It'll just be a daily driver while I work on the Bird.
Got the new rear shocks in today.
Ordering new rear pads, front inner and outer wheel bearings, and seals, getting a brake line, fluid, and bleeders.
Once its movable, my friend might flatbed it to his shop and let me use his lift and tools to bang out the exhaust, and other things. It should be coming together really soon!
Going for the high pressure hose and wheel bearings in a hour and a half, tomorrow is big time work day. Got all new brake rotors, and pads, new wheel bearings, shocks, power steering hose, power steering rack, and tie rod ends, and the new brake line. Should be able to move the car again after this weekend! then comes fuel lines in, and flat bedding to to my friends house to use his air compressor and lift to put in my new exhaust!!
I'm thinking 2 weeks till its on the road, depending when i get my tail lights and flow tubes
Nice work.
Keep at it, dude.
You can, but since it's pressed on you have to knock all of the studs out of the rotor and
carefully tap around on each stud until the ring comes off. I used a PVC 2"-3" adapter with a cap to drive the ring on the new rotor. Make sure the ring is on the new rotor the same amount it was on the old rotor. If it's too far out of range the sensor won't be able to pick it up.
THANKS!!!!
I'm thinking about taking it to a machine shop so I don't risk messing it up, because I tend to get impatient and i don't want that messed up. I'm gonna try with the rotor on the other side and if i get it off no problem then I'm good.
Swaped the ring today
new rotor on pass side
new pads in
caliper painted
new strut in
new bearings and seal
Before
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after
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Now drivers side tomorrow, and new rack in.
only problem is i think the rotors kick the wheels out more... I dont think it will be a issue.
Front brakes are DONE
power steering is DONE
H pipe is half in
Well I can walk outside put the keys in and start it!!
Just doesnt stop well. Next step is BRAKES!!
The gutted cat h pipe sounds INSANE on the thing. Man do my neighbors HATE IT! I let it run for 10 mins to heat up, and test stuff Ive never tested. And I had one compliment me on it, and another yell cause I chucked a few revs. Needs lers and tails!
Re kinddled my love for it by backing it up and lighting the tires up, catches posi too, so the rear end is good! Long 4 day weekend so I intend to be able to drive it soon!
What els does it need before it meets the road?
Take a pic of it. I've never seen it before
fuel lines fixed/replaced?
Fuel lines are friday. I have to get the car back up in the air for the brake line leaks and I'm gonna pull the lines then too.
Whats left:
Fuel lines
2 brake lines
rear brake rotors and pads
passenger side H pipe section
Flow tubes
lers
tail pipes
Other little things. The list is shrinking fast!
Sweet, making good progress there! I wish I could reinstall cats into my H-pipe - ed droning is killing me!
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Doin good there bubba,Is that the mac H your hookin up?
Still got the lers from it,You pay the shippin there yours.
Lookin good Mason, your gettin there.
Figure out shipping, re send me your address, and its a deal!
It fits GREAT, a little leak at the header but its not positioned right so thats why. I only ave the drivers side on at the moment, man o MAN is it scream!
nice car. thats an 88?. i was looking at an 87 a couple years back to replace my cougar but could you believe, it had more rust than mine.
they ride really smooth.i always keep an eye out for them.
Its hard to find a car with chrome bumpers on it . 1 day i'll find the one i want.
Yea that pic makes it look way better then it is. I payed 540 for the car, and its worth that, maybe less, but it should be a nice first car.
Finished up the h pipe install today. Ended up snapping the o2 sensor off to do it, so I need new o2 sensors tomorrow!
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wtf was that? sounded like listening to a tractor run over a cordless phone with bad reception.
yea my cell takes bad vids. It sounds much better on the phone haha. My friend wanted to gear it so i took a vid of it at idle. Its the open mac h pipe, with a massive set of exhaust leaks. I need to get a camera...
Sent out 22 bucks for lers today
replaced both o2 sensors
put on the second flow tube
reset the computer, and let it re learn its idle, man o man it runs sweet now!
it hasnt caught on fire by now, since you refuse to replace the fuel lines?
Psh, doesnt leak anymore. They are the number one next thing. Finishing one step at a time.. One step at a time...
sounds like things are moving along pretty good now.
I hope you have a better time with the lines this time around.
remember, baby steps. Its easier to do the work now before your driving it all the time and have to depend on it.
Yea i got a set of great shape mark VII lines, cause right now i have tbird lines rigged in. They dont leak but its not pretty. Gonna get everything done but the brake lines, and my bud its gonna flat bed it to his house, and let me use his lift in his garage and im gonne replace any line that looks bad. Not taking chances there, if i line lets go while im driving, theres no way the thing would stop unless i jammed it into park, and killed my trans.
thats the importance of a good working e-brake. saved me a couple times in my life
Yea i need to check and make sure it functions properly when I do the rear brakes.
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exhaust ready to go in!!
Mass Air upgrade.
eventually it will get mass air
Well been a long time and theres really no update for the car. Looking into a rust free florida car right now to replace this one, found some rust in the trunk area, and its leaking water in everywhere. Time to start with a soild. Gonna wind up if i get the new one striping this one of all the new parts putting them on the new car, and keeping tons of parts to build, and have spares of. I hate to waste all the work but i will never be happy with what I have.
Don't let rust scare you
Rhode Island to Florida is quite a trip,isn't it.My parents would've shut that idea down fast.Luckily here in Oklahoma,we don't have rust to deal with.Why don't you get a T-Bird and apply all your parts to that?Just a thought.
Car is in RI already, guy im looking to buy it from got it from florida. not all these parts will work on a bird. plus theres no GOOD cheap birds up here!
All of the drivetrain will work.The exhaust as well if you shorten it betwen the H-pipe and the lers.As far as body parts,no dice.If the Mark is what you like (it really is a cool car),then stick with it.Like rthe Birds and Cats,quality parts are getting harder to find,but,they are out ther.Patience and searching really pay off sometimes.
yea, I like the birds, but the mark's are so different, and everyone thinks its a grandma car till i start it up. Its not for sure that im gonna buy this one, i wanna look at it talk price and see what he says.
If it's a nice enough car,and the price is right,grab it.I had a Mark VII and kept the drivetrain (which I'm using now) and sold parts and got over $1500.00 for the individual parts.It was fully loaded,sunroof and all.I pulled and cleaned everything (to improve visual appeal) and put it all on Ebay.Some parts i lost due to a bad business partner who left me high and dry and oweing people.I got that cleared up.Anyway,my point is,a lot of those parts have a value if they are in good shape and not tampered with.people with the Mark VII's seem to like to do their own stuff.
my thing with the car i have is i want to go 5 speed, new gears, and other stuff, but I dont trust the car, the brake lines are bad, its just rusted. I want something nice to build
5 speed?Did you say 5 speed?I'm starting to gather parts for that upgrade myself.
Yep already got a t-5. After i get settled on a decent car, gonna start it. 5 speed swap knocks almost a second off the quater on the mark. then goes 3.73's
I hope to have it all done by the end of summer.That includes paint,detailing,new heads and cam (in the next couple of weeks),electric fan,new a/c everything,and the little bits and pieces.O.K.,great,now I've got myself all excited.
I just caught up on the post, are you getting a new mark? or shall I say nicer.
Hope things work out for you on the wheel and deal.
Vinnie, we need to see pics during your painting and little bits and pieces.
and you only have 7 months left.
Right now as we speak,I'm "restoring" a taillight for the Bird.It's looking close to new again.Restoring a light for an '87/'88 sucks.Well worth the effort though.I'm getting ready to post a couple of pics.
Well decided I was not gonna be able to afford another car, so efforts are starting back up on this one.
Im stock piling parts then gonna make a push to get it done. So far i have new dew wipes, tbird mirrors, new window motor, door lock actuator, lers and tail pipes, fuel lines, brake line, all four calipers are in the mail(wicked good deal on some used units), and might after i sell my motorcycle be going on a road trip to new york for new fenders, trunk lid, and drivers door, possibly cutting patch panels too.
Glad to see your not giving up. It'll take a little bit longer, but it'll cost less and not all at once.
Can't wait for the next batch of pics. Good luck on the repairs and parts hunt.
well I am hoping to have it towed to my grandparents soon, heated garage to work out of!!
Got rear calipers and hoses used 75 shipped
front calipers with only 500 miles on them, AND ceramic pads with only 500 miles on them 25 bucks SHIPPED. Nice to have people that are willing to help a younger kid get going, door lock actuator was donated to me by a member here, and the power steering rack in my car was donated to me as well
Glad to hear you got some good deals.
If you lived a lot, lot ,lot, lot closer I'd give you a hand putting it together.
If you need panel patching help, I know some stuff and some people that can give you advice on what your doing.
Good luck.Too bad you're not closer.I found that Mark at the new yard I discovered (new to me anyway).The entire car is prety much complete except for the engine,tranny,and computer.
Nice to see your mark 7 is getting some upgraded parts on it and turning out to be a real nice car. The only thing i don't like about your car is you did not have to do a H.O. Swap and it me off the T-Birds and Cougars owners have to.
got my rear calipers in today. Hopefully gonna tow the car over to my grandparents house and use the heated garage and bang out what I have to get done this weekend. Im hoping to drive it home!
Take a few pics and keep us posted.
this has to be the longest brake job in history! 17 pages? WOW!
hahaha well, that what happens when you go to replace one thing only to find theres more shiznit broken.
ROFL!!! Ya know I kinda forgot why it was so long, thanks for letting me know. I actually had no idea it was all brakes! :hick:
GJ mason ya n00b! J/k cant help bustin on ya! Hope she's scootin' down the road soon. I'm sure YOU can't wait!
did the rotors and pads like 2 months ago, fuel lines and exhaust in between that time, now im doing all the calipers since i found i couldnt bleed to brakes once the bleeders snaped!
No i cant wait to drive it. The few burnouts ive done have me sooo pumped to drive this thing!!
lol -- thats ok, according to my flintstone post, it took me about 3 months and 15 pages to weld a couple pieces of metal. lol
Blew out another line today backing the car into the drive way. So the car is up with the calipers both missing, and new lines laying in there just need to finish them up! Need to cut off the old hose bracket bolt and drill a new hole cause rust screwed me over again! But It will have new calipers, new lines, pads and rotors by tomorrow night! Nad my new front calipers are in too! after the brakes are done its going to the exhaust shop, cause I'm not gonna mess with it!
ITS DONE!!
New brake lines, and calipers on the back! Cant bleed them tonight gonna tomorrow after i install the new front calipers. Then gonna install the fuel lines, and it will be all set except for exhaust and alingment!
pics after i pick up!
alright! things are moving now
Well here are the lines!! Not perfect by any means but they dont hit anything and arnt rotted!!!
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hard to see but thats all the tools everywere, and the ass end in the air right after i finished!
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well rear brakes work...
but it just blew out another ****ING brake line. I swear this is THE LAST stupid thing I am fixing before I part it out...
Yep blew the lines from the M/C that run along the k member. What a BITCH its gonna be to do on my driveway on jackstands.
O man ive about HAD IT...
Hang in there bubba,It's worth it.Thats what I tell myself.
Problem is were the line runs is ****ing me. I have NO room under the car even up high on jackstands. Its in a horrible spot....
what do you mean by "blew out"? isnt it a metal line? was it rusted?
yes rotted metal line, just like the two rotted ones that I replaced last night....
Hey Boss,Your not giving up yet are you? Thats only a 20 yr. car! your stang is even older,Good practice for you!!
It's only plastic,rubber,and metal.Nothing to it.I started with the Sport which was horrible as well.Remember,every single time you swap a hose,a clamp,or anything else,you're one step closer to being finished.It's just a huge puzzle.
Sheesh. That sucks hardcore bro. Soundin' like ya prolly should have just ripped out it ALL and re did it completely. That is kinda surprisng though, that they're THAT rusted. Must have somehow attracted moisture into the fluid and rusted from the inside out. Bleh.
I've been through the same thing a few years back.
I also started in the back and worked my way to the front. Not by choice.
did the same in an 88 e-250. with brakes and transmission lines also.
take a deep breath and replace the rest. its better than finding a bad line coming off a thruway exit.
It'll be worth it. and probably won't be the first and last time you do it to a car.
i think you need to try to get your $500 back.
hell i have over 1500 in the car thats what i paid for the car, and parts.
The car is rusted front and back, not center.... Its weird as hell. I knew the lines needed to be replaced its just $$$$ I dont have. I wanted to fix problems and drive it. So much more problems have arised then i was told, but thats cause my dumbass bought a car that sat for 4 years. I'm to far in to quit now, but I can only do so much on what I know, and the limited tools i have. Hell i have at least another 250 in tools to work on it.
Today just pissed me off, I JUST ADDED 3 bottles of fluid and it dumped it all out. I have no room under it jsut on jackstands i dont think to get the lines the blew out. You should see how bad the shiznit i pulled of this car was, all four shocks had NO pressure in them, all the calipers were FLACKING massive amounts of metal, rotors were rotted, brake lines, exhaust fell off, i mean It was worse then it looked. Idk I fell in love with it and thought I could do it... But like u said at least it happened now in my drive way. I just hope i get the checks for the bike parts im selling cause I need to buy 2 more 8 foot sections of line, 4 more bottles of fluid, and the assorted fittings and adapters.
What I found after I got out, it leaked MORE out after..
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the way it sits right now! I love how good it looks far away til u see the rotted fenders missing trim, ughhh
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just don't give up, It's gunna be real nice when your done. Fenders and trim can be replaced.
Anything can be replaced
I havnt givin up. Its just very discouraging putting in a total of 9 hours doing rear brake lines and the calipers, driving the car and being happy it stops, then BOOM, back to the beginning with no brakes.... Gonna say F IT this time, replacing ALL the front lines, not gonna patch anything... As much of a pain in the ass it will be, Its a matter of when now, not if. And I dont want when to be when im flying down the street.... There goes all my savings for the desperately needed new tires, and 5 speed swap...
it's a real shame you cant find a lincoln with good lines at a local salvage yard.
for shiznits and giggles I need for the car to be on the road:
Fuel lines installed(yes 32v they are STILL not done...)
horn button for a 88 mustang steering wheel
h pipe removed and reinstalled so it doesnt leak
flow tubes cut to length, lers installed and hangers made for lers and tail pipes.
Brake lines repaired
front calipers installed
alignment
dew wipes installed
door lock actuator installed
and window motor installed.
I think thats it... So its almost there!!
Its a shame I cant find a lincoln at ANY local yard
if i get a chance on tuesday, ill browse my local pick-a-part. if they have good lines, i have a big box to ship them in, if you're interested.
Welcome to the world of cars. You think you've got it figured out, then you get pushed back into the mud. It'll be worth it when it's done!
if the motors out then it should be easy, if not Im not gonna make you work hard to get them out. It would be nice to get the lines going from the calipers to where ever they go, and the 2 lines from the M/C that run along the K member. I am interested. Let me know.
I wish I could give you a better description but i have so little room under the car, and Im not sure where they all run!
I hope so.... Theres so much heavy scale rust on the rear suspension and axle, I need to go and check it good soon to make sure its all safe. I swear if this car goes to the inspection station and they fail it for something I cant fix, I will burn it. I will strip all the good parts and burn the rest, BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
Do you still need fuel lines? I have had a set of Lincoln lines for nearly two years sitting in the trunk of my SE. I forgot why I even got them.
I dunno my axle is pretty rugged lookin. :hick: Definitely check over load-bearing points but I mean just from the cameraphone pics you posted if you're worried about the axle and control arms being rusty, don't. Well unless SOMEhow the control arms are rusted to the point of them almost being non-existant! That would be impressive. lol
Ugh just another testament to how unfriendly the Northeast is to automobilia. :(
more worried about the point were they bolt to the frame. Torque boxes they are called i believe.
CougarSE- I have a rust free set that had the quick connects cut off, so i was gonna just splice the nylon line and use the quick connects i have. I would love to have a unmodified set, but they are hard to ship, and im strapped on cash.
modifyed a door lock actuator i got for free and now i can at least lock my doors. next is trying to see if a t bird window motor will work on a lincoln. I have been told they are the same... We will see. Turbo coupe mirror isnt gonna fit untill I modify it, but it looks SWEET on the car so Its gonna happen!
Only doing this little shiznit cause Im waiting for the check from motor cycle parts to clear at the bank, and I hope 32v gets to the yard tomorrow.
What was wrong with the actuator??? i bet it was the top part right yours wasnt curved???
yep!! Works great though!! Its nice to be able to lock my tools in the car for once!! simple mod took 2 seconds to fix. Thanks so much for it!!!
Well got one front line replaced, both new front calipers in, fuel lines in, got the one that blew out, but I cant get the fittings out of the distribution block....... these lines are such a BITCH to replicate.....
Plus, I kneed my fender when i was under it and heard a CRUNCH. Get out and find i broke a SLAB of bondo someone slaped on the fender. So i start breaking it off, and find a shiznitty ass patch panel someone did and bondoed over... So I now will also begin body work..
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Note to anyone here when you start to feel bad about the rust on your cars, just drop me a line and I will take some shots from my Mark VII im parting and you wont feel so bad.
O mean this is only the begining.... The passenger fender is about as bad in the back, and the rear quarter is GONE i can stick my hand from the trunk outside. And Im retarded and am fixing it.....
I can relate to "gone"
Its still to bad you don't live closer
God I wish. I dont have ANYTHING for body work.. Would be nice to have a hand, and id SURE lend you a hand!
Wish i could at least get the brake lines done, but i cant get the ed fittings out of the distribution block...
Got one new line all bent up, but I cant install it because I cant get the fitting out of the distribution block under the M/C..... The fittings striped off, and I cant get the lines off the top of it to remove it and use vice grips.... Stupid northern rot box.... and F ford for making it soo packed on the side of the motor....
Hopefully buying a new distribution block and the lines to connect it to the M/C so i can chop this one out.
Replace the rotted front fenders,don't fix them.Man,I wish you were near.Theres a REALLY nice Mark VII about 40 miles from here at the yard where I got the diff a couple months ago.Pretty darned complete except for the engine and tranny (and computer).It's a dark grey with the cool mesh style wheels.I still need to get the center caps and a few other little bits from it that are hard to find.I really don't know what that would be,though.I'll try to grab the calipers,and a few more things.I'll check Ebay and see what's selling.If you were close,you could probably snag the front fenders for $50.00 or less.
I have a line on a fender, but a passenger fender. Idc really, I dont want anything pretty, this car isnt in good enough shape to really care that much. Its just gonna be good enough to pass inspection and look acceptable. I have fixed so much on this car, I cant give up now! I've grown waaay to attached!
Those wheels are BBS wheels.
And I was told that thunderbird front clip and doors fit my car! I Might be trying that out with my parts turbo coupe....
I think the doors are slightly different.Doesn't the Mark have different body lines upper and lower?
I thought the body lines were diff. because of the chrome around the wheels, and the turn signals are longer i think
tbird door glass, and dew wipes fit mark 7 doors so I dont think so.
well i peeled all the seam sealer from the trunk area, where the water drains, its rotted all the way across.... So I bought this liquid metal stuff, some rust killer, and silicone. Not the best way to do it, but its what I got to do...
I wire brushed in there, sprayed down the rust killer, and started with the liquid metal stuff, Its sorta like pre mixed JB weld. Its working out nicely. Gonna do that and throw some silicone on the inside to make sure I stop the leaks. Not proud of hacking it, but Its all I can afford to do, and it wont be to bad. its sandable and paintable so I can make it look decent. Car had to be moved back into the yard, so I need to get it back in the air and apart, and I have to check my front rotors. I guess I didnt tighten them enough, ones loose. I need to get a manual and get torque specs... Brake lines are about bent and ready to install, but need to get fittings out of distribution block.
Looking for a D block on the lincoln site so might get lucky.
It really doesn't matter how you fix the rust, as long as you seal it from the air.If you want a good sealing product to stop the rust use zero-rust. it's about $18 a quart. you could do the entire underneath of your car with 1 quart. and its brushable or you can use a small roller. many diff. colors too.
if you need some cheap fix tips let me know.
I know your not going for show quality, so there are a lot of things you can do to repair your rust and get by with a decent looking car.
so where's the pics. lol
ill take some pics tomorrow!
hood is different on the mark if I recall... I think it hangs over alittle bit. You would prolly have to change out the front clip fenders and doors to make it even pretend work.
I looked into it more and was told that swaping the entire front clip, hood included, and it supposedly fits. I wanna see pics....
I still say that the lines of the T-Bird fenders and/or doors won't line up to the Mark VII lines.
who knows!
Trunk will no longer leak!! 3 tubes of liquid metal, some silicone, and some undercoating and its done!! Looks decent, but at least its not riddled with holes
pics later.
Aren't the lincolns a bit wider too?
I thought the dashs were to wide to use in cats and birds.
Not a clue. Just going on what I was told by several members on fordvschevy.
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Thats what I started with today... Pretty bad, thats cleaned up, and rust proofed
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And the finished product after replacing all the seam sealer with liquid metal, applying a thin coat of silicone, and then spraying on some undercoat!
Its not the greatest but it will do quite nicely!!
I think that looks pretty good and it will def get the job done... No water in the trunk is a good thing.
That was pretty bad. I thought I had rust.
looks like it'll be pretty waterproof now.
good job for a bad spot to fix.
what's next in the body work dept.?
thing leaked like CRAZY and i could never figure it out, until i pulled up the seam sealer and my god!
Next is a quicky repair on the driver side rear quarter, then gonna spray from the trim down all the way around the car with undercoat. Then i need to find new front fenders and a trunk lid!
I wish there was a better way to fix it, but this only cost me 12 bucks, and it seems like it will stop all the leaking i had. Good enough for me!
is it the bottom lip of the trunk?
Before pics, please. lol
the I have pics of the trunk lid rot, and the quarter rot
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Thats the rear quarter, goes right into the trunk.
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both sides of the trunk lid are rotted
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if you look close u can see the rust bubbling through
ahh u can see my old escort in the last pic!!
Wish I kept that stupid car....
my trunk looked just like that about 10 years ago.
rebuilt it with galvanized metal. I'll shoot some pics tomorrow of how I repaired it
If you were just going to undercoat the bottom half of your car, just get some foam insulation in a can.
fill the hole, form it and undercoat it.
foil tape and bondo has a 101 uses too.
be creative if your just trying to stop the leaks
Well the undercoat will look good, black on blue, and will cover all my repairs.
Idk what Im gonna do with the trunk. Might repair but because the rust is going through I might not. Im picky when it comes to how things look.
As far as fixing the hole, gonna either rivet some metal in, or get some mesh. Nothing insane, but I dont want to HACK HACK it.
Well I bought some metal tape stuff, and fixed all the holes on the drivers side, cept for the front fender, sprayed undercoating on the lower part to looks awesome!! Cant wait to get the trim back on! Need to take a better pic tomorrow this is just the patch. Not great but better then nothing!
Found another hole under bondo on the car fixed it too. All and all it was a nasty day! Got the inner wheel tub out of the front on the drivers side, sanded it all down inside, rust proofed and undercoated. So that looks great too!
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I forgot to take the trunk lid pics for you.
I'll do it tomorrow
you should see the inside of the trunk were I patched today.... Cardboard and LOTS of silicone. Works, and its sealed from the outside, and inside. Next is fixing front fender (gonna make a frame out of flat bar, cover with metal tape), then passenger side, and finally trunk lid. Then there we be NO more holes!
Lol..... its turning into a science project.
You got to take pics of tomorrows fix.
I gotta see that
I really hate to do it this way, But it covers the holes, and looks OK. Just enough to keep together, seal the water out, and pass inspection. They assholes about rot holes....
I already undercoated over the silicone and cardboard patch. I only used the card board to keep the silicone up in the air till it dried. Im sure it wont last for ever, but i didnt intend it to!!
The front fender i was gonna do a sheet metal patch but its such an odd shape, im gonna take some flat bar i got for exhaust hangers, and build the edge of the fender, then cover it, and put something behind it for strength.
gotta do what you gotta do.
you could repair them right when you have more time and get it drivin
Yea once i get new fenders. All this is so it looks nice when the inspection people look it over!
Mason,drive down here and get everything you need.With the money you've spent on repairs,you could've paid for the parts and gas to get here and back.LOL.
it would cost me 30 bucks to get gas and parts!
Um........sure......$30.00.............LOL.Actually,the fenders can probably be had for $40-$50.00 for the pair,in great shape.Possibly less on a good day.I'll be trying to get the rear brake sensors and the wheel center caps from the Mark Saturday.
metal tape cost 4 bucks, under coat was 2 cans at 3 bucks each, silicone was 2 bucks so i think its body repair on the cheap
I can't and won't argue that point.
Here ya go Mason,
I did this quick fix the last time I painted the cougar.
I used 26 ga. galvanized heat duct metal. lol Had some laying around and figured what the heck.
If I show you what I did with the door skins, You'll flip. There galvanized metal too
My trunk was rusted and rotted away up to the lock
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I also just realized that I put the emblems on in the reverse order. lol
The inside was pretty much gone too
I bent the inside with a pair of hand brakes, the curve was fun. (not really)
I even drilled weep holes. I wasn't worried about the inside since this was going to be a temporary fix till I found another lid. They were also hard to find up here even 10-12 years ago
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You can see that the inside looks nothing like the original, but it works to this day. I do see a little rust starting though. If I had the talent I have now with metal I would have done things a little different. Now I'm just going to replace it with a rust free lid
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Hope this gives you inspiration to not give up.
that job cost me a quart of waterproof bondo and 1 weekend of my time. if you want to see the door bottom fix, let me know. that one was even easier.
humm we have a metal break at school too... Might just have to do that!! i got a sheet of nice stainless, and if i fix it I will only fix the inside, and outside where the fake "spare tire" is. I dont want to do anything that will look like i worked on it lol. If i undercoat the area of the fake "spare tire" at least it would look that off. Im starting to not be so angry about this car, now that It looks pretty good with the black lower part! Now once i get the trim mounts and the trim on the car will look BA!
If you can get your hands on a brake and some sheet metal, you'll be laughin. I riveted all the earlier stuff that i did. now I would epoxy the metal instead of riveting it. (nothing to countersink)
BTW stainless is real tough to bend.
Yes but i can get it free (street signs i have picked up from years lol, finally come in handy!
LOL .. Yes, if thats what you have, it should work fine..LOL
LOL...kids, to be young again....
most i have found laying on the ground ( old people love to run down sign poles) some have been "barrowed"
Didnt work on her yesterday, spent the day installing a magnaflow on a land rover! Fun install, 2 1/2 ler on 2 1/4 pipe....... But I custom fit it for the dumbass who doesnt listen to me....
actually sounds decent.... He wants louder so resonator and gutted cats is next! Might port the manifolds too!
Might work some on it today, if not today tomorrow. I need to finish the fuel lines and brake lines!!
How did you get the ler to fit.I just bought two 2 1/2" to 2 1/4" adapters from Autozone for about $5.00 for the pair.Slide 'em on and no more worries.I clamp everything until I get it just where I want it,then have everything welded.
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Looks pretty decent i think. Need to re install the trim now!
Well I used a straight section of 2 1/2 inch pipe for an extension cause the old lers was HUGE. Then the section of pipe i had to use from the stpen 15 exhaust was a bend, so I placed the bend in so it contacted all sides, and filled the cracks with weld. Not ideal, but I had to make the car legal in one class period at school(did HOLE INSTALL IN 45 MINS, including test fit and weld...) Worked with what he bought. Used a clamp and tightened realllly hard on the other end of the ler and it crimped in and held on with no leaks. Sounds rumbly as hell now for a rover. I didnt want to hack it, but he needed a favor as the stock ler rotted, so I did him a favor and fixed it best I could do with what I had, and in the time I had.
Good work.Treat yourself to something nice.LOL.
lol i have no money, i cant treat my self to anything!!!! i got nothing from him either. nothing new, i always work my butt off on his cars and get nothing back from him.
It's time to start speaking up and telling people that you need a little money for your time.I work on people's cars a lot and always charge.Maybe not a lot,depending on the job,but I make something.That and selling parts pays for the Sport's needs and wants.
I'm with Vinnie, It doesn't have to be a lot. sometimes a trade for something is good too. it shows they can't take advantage of you
hes my ride everywhere, and most importantly to school everyday (lets me sleep later!)
So I dont mind so much, plus his father takes us out to eat as payment cause I work on all the family's cars.
That's cool, its a trade off
Yea
hes a ungrateful though lol.
His parents just spent 5k on this rover for him, i mean its SLOW, cause the trans slips when you punch it, but its HIS car, and its actually VERY clean, and fun off road, and he beats the piss out of it, and bitches and moans all the time that he hates it and wants it gone. Wish I could take it off his hands, id love if my parents would have have gave me around 2500 for a car, never mind 5k! O well, My car will be nice once its done.
Installing speakers in my buddys camry today so i can get some funds for some little things I need for the linc, then if its warms up today, and next week ill work on it.
FUEL LINES ARE 100% in and SAFE, no leaks!!
did some more small rust repairs, and sliped on the lers. Tomorrow I need to get the H pipe to stop leaking, then I can focus on the BRAKES...
I can see the light!!! Im getting TONS of parts i need, and I have a week of vacation coming up.
Its funny, april 5th will mark the ONE FREAKING YEAR since I bought the car.... 1500 later, it still sits....
ALL my b day money will go into rust proofing, rust repairs, final parts haul, and exhaust install.
Next step is (hopefully getting) ChuckW rear shock mounts, some mustang shocks, install the turbo coupe, subframe connectors, (hopefully) 3.55 gears, then 5 speed swap.
I already got KYB front shocks in, the brakes are all brand new, so next step is suspension and drivetrain. Then goes gt40 heads and intake!
List of EVERYTHING I have done:
-clear corners
-new painted grill
-new lower valence
-new door panels
-mustang steering wheel
-new drilled front and rear rotors
-new front and rear calipers
-new front and rear pads
-used rear gabrial shocks, used KYB front struts
-replaced fuel lines
-used high ratio power steering rack(3kmiles)
-new tie rod ends
-new power steering hose
-underdrive crank pulley
-MAC CAI
-MAC 2 1/2 catted h pipe, gutted cats
-NickT custom flow tubes
-Summit turbo lers (2 1/2)
-cheapo mustang tails
-new tail light
-new dew wipes
-door lock actuator replaced
-painted interior trim
-Ford racing 9mm wires, NGK plugs, ACCEL cap and rotor, Motorcraft oil and fuel filter, RP oil.
-new gas tank
-ALL new brake lines
-fixed(temp) many rust holes
-new wheel bearings
I think thats it so far
holy thats a long list...
Hey, I don't feel so bad now. I only need a little metal and paint. LOL
Did you get my last PM
Yep
if they are good
ill send money for shipping!
dude, you've been busy! I've been building mine since like 1999, so you're on the fast track!
I'll check them sometime this week.
What did you need for the stereo wiring?
Been a ROYAL PAIN IN MY ASS the whole way, but I love it!
im guessing the bird doesnt have premium sound, which my car does, but it was bypassed and hacked. Be nice to have a complete front and back speaker wiring harness, but I think that would be a pain for you to get it.
So in other words the plug that goes into the radio, and the wires that run to each speaker.
I'll see what i can do. the seats are already unbolted as of today. also started taking the dash out.
when I strip it. I'm gonna grab whatever wiring I can too, front to back.
someone may need it one day.
When I'm done there won't be much left of the car.
well in that case you should have no problem!!
What do you need as of now. there was a LSC out at the yard when i went yesterday. all i got was a center cap though.
well i got lots of people getting me stuff.
Ill let you know what they cant get me
found some front fenders too.
Might be getting a set of ROH wheels!! Depends on the price, and how far away they are!
Finishing up the brakes, and all the little stuff, then its going to the exhaust shop for the exhaust, then mechanic I know to be checked over before inspection!!
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they have some good curb rash, and lots of peeling, but if they are cheap, I can make them look good, and i need all new tires anyway so, kills two birds one stone!
Sweet!
Glad to hear things are working out.
I'm still on the slow track with my project... Someone needs to kick my ass into gear :shakeass: :hick:
Nice wheels.I'm going to the yard to see what I can get for you tomorrow,by the way.I'll let you know how it went as soon as I get home.
Ok sounds good to me, just let me know so i can tell my other guy what parts i still need!
10-4.I hope to be home around 1:00 or so.I'll drop a line to you,Home Slice.
Sounds good to me!!
Thanks to guys like you, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel!!
we're all in this together,otherwise,I'd have all the parts to myself.LOL.
Well I'm a go on buying those wheels
vin hooked me up with my window motor, horn button, and the desperately needed brake block. Car SHOULD be drivable, rolling on some sweeet new wheels and tires next week (have a week off school). Things are looking good!! Once it goes and stops, I'm having the exhaust done!!
Way to go bubba! It all works out some how.
Yep!! Gonna have those tails and the lers from you professionally installed so I dont have to fab mounts
That reminds me,I need to get the tips and Flowmasters welded on.
See Vinnie, you do have a need to buy a welder. lol
well i started fiberglassing the trunk, rear quarter, and passenger door jam
Well trunk is almost done, Then the fenders are coming off and they are being done, then the rear quaters, and door jams.
Long and slow, but its coming out killer!!
Parts to finish the brakes, and a few little things to get it road ready are on there way, and thursday I'm headed to jersey to pick up my new wheels and tires!
Well got the parts from vin, brake block is not correct so I need to pull the one i got and work with it, not vin's fault. But the horn button and window motor are correct, and I GOT MY ROH WHEELS, and cooper cobra tires, and man they look slick on the car, just need to drop the air ride a little, then ill take some pics!
Ill take a pic of my brake block for you and se if it will work... Ill try and post it up later.
Well I went out there expecting to see what I know and found something entirely different. I took pics anyway all brake lines appear to go into the bottom of this
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Here is a pic from under it
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here is a pic of engine bay..
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Now there might be a different brake block somewhere else but I didnt get under the car to check.... Let me know if it is farther under the car and Ill get some pics for ya....
thats what everyone says im suppose to have....
but car looks good with its new wheels and lowered to lowest factory setting!
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Looks like a totally different car! I love those rims. Bad Ass
Yea they are nice ROH ZS rims. I am gonna paint the outer lip(massive curb rash on a few, and LOADS of clear coat peel, but only on the lips) and the inner area where the lugs go in graphite. Got the wheel paint and clear for it today!
Trunk is FINISHED, fiberglassed and bondoed, then sprayed in undercoat. Came out sweet, need to touch up a few spots, but all in all looks awesome!
Working on drivers side front fender now!
On the curb rash,that's easily fixed.I just bought two 17x9 Cobra R rims (used),and was told they were like new....wrong.One has chips,I can except that,the other had curb rash.I got my drill and some 150 grit sanding discs and went to work.After sanding the wheel (I need to paint it,but I have wheel paint and clear for said paint),you can't tell at all there was curb rash.It took about 20 minutes of sanding.I sanded the whole wheel by hand after the lip was repaired,and I'll paint it tomorrow.If you need a pic Mason,let me know.
what color are you painting the lip? I say polish the lips
Most of it is very light curb rash, except for one big flat spot.
I was thinking about polishing them, but Idk, was gonna do them in graphite.
Started taping up one wheel last night and sanding the rash, and clear coat. I will definatly be doing graphite( dark grayish-silver) lips and centers, with the light silver it is now on the rest. I thought about polishing but I would have to do it all by hand as the spokes are raised and if I try to get a wheel in there it will touch the spokes, and I REALLY dont want to polish all four entire wheels!
Started the drivers front fender. Built a frame out of some flat stock I had laying around for exhaust hangers that filled the big section that I cut out because it was rot, bondo, and a shiznitty patch panel. Layed one layer of fiberglass over it so far and its looking good. I was planing on doing metal, but because of the odd contour of the fender(gently sloping, and it sticks out farther, so bending a piece is almost impossible) I dont have the patience to mess with it. Gonna do quite a few layers to make it nice and strong, then mount it back up!
Then comes the drivers side rear quarter, and the small panel behind the door.
Finished the drivers front fender, painted it, installed it, and put the trim on. Looks SWEET with the new painted wheel, and all the trim on. I got tons of pics in the phone but idk if i want to send them at the moment, my back kills from being hunched over all afternoon.
Fixed the passenger side door jam too.
Sounds like your getting close
passenger fender, rear quarters, 2 brake lines, exhaust, and paint the other 3 wheels.
How's the wheel painting coming along.I just did one of my extra Cobra R wheels yesterday.It's in the garage "curing".According to the instructions,it takes a week.I'm patient.
Stop on down when its on the road.
I'll put you to work on mine. lol
id gladly help
Vin wheels are coming out sweet, I put mine on the day i painted it. Left it in the sun to bake, so I checked after it was about 4 hours later(3 hours to wait till you can handle), it was dry so i mounted it on the car, looks freaking SWEET. Need to sand the other three better then i did the first one(you can see the scratch marks) but I put 3 color coats, and 2 clears, so its nice and thick and hard, after this week im gonna put a coat of clear over the whole wheel to seal the edges of the paint onto the rest.
off to attempt the brake lines, car looks sweet now I just need it to stop!
well getting the fittings off turned into a BIG project
Pulled the upper intake, and took apart the master, but i got the bitches out!! I am also putting in the V/C gaskets i bought last year finally to stop the horrific oil leaks it had, the V/C were not even tight!!!
Off to get supplys to finish! Wish me luck!
Well it i went to get the shiznit I needed and now its dark..... Guess im painting v/c's tonight, and cleaning sensors and the TB
Updated pics?
Tomorrow
I got tons, body work on drivers fender, new painted front wheel, motor striped down, all sorts of good stuff!! Now everythings painted, all looks awesome, now if i can only remember how it all goes back in tomorrow!
Well I under estimated myself!! Got the top back on the motor, put the key in, and expected the worst, well she fired right up, my stalling problem i had when it first started is gone, it doesnt drop idle, it just starts and idles sweet!! Guess its good I cleaned out the inside of the intake, TB, and blocked EGR port!
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Frame I built to fiberglass on the front fender
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The painted wheel
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Finished drivers fender, trim installed, and painted wheel
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disassembled motor as of last night
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assembled motor with ford blue V/C, and graphite upper, egr spacer, and TB, light silver IAC, TPS, and EGR. Looks pretty good, better then before! Should stop the oil leaks with the new gaskets!
Forgot I pulled the passenger fender to repair it next. Gonna put the brake lines in tomorrow, and pray to god that the brakes work!!
Wow dude congrats this thing really turned out to be a basket case and you still managed to kick it in the ass and make it do sumn for a living! :giggle: . Really neat that you're doin all that fiberglass bodywork! Be sure to post some pics of that stuff it sounds like you've done a lot to patch stuff up. Nuts.
Yea Ill take a better pic of the drivers fender, and the pass door jam. It was dark by the time I finish working on all my projects, been working from when i get out of school till about 10-11, sucks but hey I want to drive the car, I have to put in the work. Its a money pit..... I spent over 400 in the past 2 weeks on it.....
I really have been winging it on everything, I mean tune ups, basic brake jobs, some suspension work, and all my motor work has been on old carbed motors, so I am in uncharted waters here. I mean I was sure i was gonna f up the intake removal and install, felt nice when it started right up, and I didnt have to keep my foot in it for 10 seconds so it wouldnt stall!! Its looks amazing, running great, and I couldnt be happier with my first car. Considering its cost me about 1800-2k plus the 540 i payed for the car, its been a journey but hell, theres only one mark 7 in my town, its a POS, and the kid talks shiznit about my car, cant wait to blow his doors off!!
It may have cost a little more then expected, but figure in everything you learned. you'll have that for life now.
I can't wait to see the daytime pics now
QFMFT. Exactly.
Sounds like out of a movie!!!! With the other dude with a mark 7. Show him up, and that'll SHUT him up haha.
Yea well I still need to fiber glass the rear quarter on the drivers side but other then that once I get the trim clips that side will be DONE, back is DONE, front is DONE. Passenger side all i have to do is strip and paint the lower part of the door, and finish the fiber glass on the rear quarter. Body work has been pretty easy, just some flat bar, self taping screws and fiber glass. Getting it running and driving its fought me the whole god way. But its coming out awesome!
Got that body work, hopefully gonna scratch brake lines off the list tomorrow, then paint the last three wheels, and put the interior back together and clean it GOOD. then go to the exhaust shop! I want the thing done to drive to prom which is may 9th
dont think its gonna happen, but its motivation!!
O hes going down, says im ****ing up my car with all the mods, his dad is OEM part FREAK, F that if its stock its not good enough!! Hes just mad mines faster, louder, lower, and shagier!!
O yea next parts im saving for are custom subframe connectors by disneylincoln, and the fixed camber plates from chuck if he ends up making them! Should make the car handle alot better once I put those in, plus the turbo coupe sway bar in too.
just make your own connectors
200 bucks for a set of tig welded bolt up thick steel connectors isnt bad.
It all depends what else pops up on the car, and weather dis comes back on the site or not!
I've never priced them for my car, mabe I could have just bought some and saved some time
well this guy custom makes them for mark 7's he also sells custom twin turbo kits for mark 7's
Plus U would never find any as good as yours!! come cat jam if i havnt bought any, and if we meet up, maybe we can throw something under this pig! Id be glad to have a hand, and pay you for your help.
That would be a cruise.
brake lines are DONE!! Car mother ****ing stops!!! Bout time!
woo hoo
today is marked as an official holiday
Now if i can get the idle down I can test drive it quick
My parts bird also runs like a wild rabbit. havn't had a chance to even look at it.
Got the idle down a bit and took it down the road and back!
Verdict is:
brakes need to be bled more
and i need the lers put on, neighbor hood came out to bitch and I booked it home! being 930 at night with a 2 1/2 inch h pipe and no cats isnt the best thing hahaha
lol, but I bet it felt good
Well right it did!! Made all the hard work I put in worth it!
But it needs an alt.... I have always been charging the battery cause I forget to un hook it or something stupid, amp light came on after i drove it last night so its not charging I dont think. Perfect opportunity for a 3g upgrade!
3G is a good thing.I think the Mark VII uses a larger case alternator than the T-Bird/Stang 5.0.Check into that.
All I need is a alt from a 94-96 taurus, or 95+ windstar. If i rev the car the amp light goes out, but if i let it idle it comes back, and thats will all lights out, nothing on, just idling, so IDK but im gonna do it since its gonna be a bit longer till the car is done....
I did a stupid thing last night, spun tires in a movie theater parking lot, and some kid had done a donut about a min before and the cop from inside was outside, and heard me take a corner to fast and the tire spin, and gave me a citation because he assumed that I was trying to copy the other kid and show off.... I got it for driving to endanger, and excessive noise.... I dont think im gonna fight it because I dont want to go to real court.
Update!!!
interior is 100% done, all panels in, trim fixed and painted, mustang wheel in, horn fixed and installed. So its one step closer.
Figured I have no choice, so I started to grind down any rust I found on the car on the body panels so I can save as much of the car as I can possibly save. Gonna get some rust treater to add over all the bare metal, and then gonna try and get a close factory color spray paint to throw over the repairs. Then I have to finish the undercoating below the body trim, and install all the missing trim. Got 2 more of the wheels off and one painted, other one still needs to be masked then painted.Threw some glass down on the passenger side fender finally to get it completed. Then ill have the body panel behind the drivers door, and the rear quarters and the body will be DONE. Found poly sway bar bushings at local auto zone, so Im gonna get my T/C sway bar in soon, so im hoping this thing will handle good. New alt. and IAC coming soon, as well as all new battery cables and upgraded wiring for the alt. Its coming along real well, and I took her out for a spin yesterday. I put the 5.0 through its pases and tried out the AOD and my traclok. Pulled to the end of my street, whipped a hard right, and held her to the floor. my stocker 225's stood NO chance, and it roasted them around the corner, BUT i left a one tire fire, im guessing my traclok is getting worn out since It catches posi in a brake stand, but not in a corner. It was about a 35-45 footer, and it gave me the push I needed to finish the car! Got a thumbs up from a guy driving by which was pretty cool!
But, will it make it to catjam?
That all depends on how much money I can save for gas to drive there, If I get the job I want soon, get the car done, and start saving cash for that trip, Its going.All depends on if it passes inspection, how long these tires hold up, and if everything holds up
Forget I need to get an alignment as well!
also got to get the timing set, and get it idling right, and running better.
Still doesnt like the gas pedal when the temp gauge says cold
HELL YES!!! Got a member from another forum who told me, if I refurbish 2 sets of mark VII dew wipes, he will trade me an explorer intake!!
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left was laied by my budys 460 powered f250 ext cab long bed
right is with my mark, once the timing is correct, and its running better(motor was cold) should be able to put down a better one! Made a nice cloud of smoke though!
Good job on all the work.Keep pushing forward.As far as the "cold temp" thing,My Sport LOVES it when it's cold.That's when she feels her best.
I mean as far as engine temp, outside temp has no effect on the car, but if the gauge reads cold it doesnt take gas well and stalls. Once that needle gets about 1/8 away from the blue it runs like a bat out of hell!
got a 4 gauge wire for the new alt
new 4 gauge negative and possitive cables for the battery, and of course they had NO short red ones so all cables are black... O well I know which is which.
Looked for a 175 amp fuse for the alt, no luck only found some 100amp ones
got to go find that somewhere else!
Glad to see things are coming together. Only problem is: not enough pics. lol
Did you test the temp. sensors to see if they are reading correct?
werd!
and the pics he does post, are too dark.
yea by the time I finish work its dark out!! Car looks like right no, tape and tape marks everywhere. Good pics coming
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Interior all done and clean!
got my new battery cables in, got the other driver side wheel back on, all painted, sprayed her down and took a few quick pics. Dont look great yet, but its getting there!!
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i just put a treatment over that bare metal spot, just need to finish the body work, spray the undercoat and get all the trim on there!!
I swear I haven't forgotten you !!! I know it seems like forever,but Wednesday I'll have you fixed up.I have had to keep postponing things because my daughter is graduating this week and EVERY SINGLE DAY something has been going on.If I don't have an answer about the parts sometime Wednesday,I'll send you $5.00.If everything works out Wednesday,I can have everything to you before the end of next week like you stated you need.Wednesday is MY day off.No obligations,nobody to bother me,all me and car stuff.
hahaha man sounds good to me!! Thanks a million! as you can see ive been keeping busy so, its no biggy. Your money will be on its way by the end of this week as well!
Lol.
did you paint the lips on the wheels?
here's some gt40 irons for $100 in Rhode Island
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=109962.0
lips and centers.
2.5 hours taping per each wheel. PAIN IN THE BALLS, but they look sinister!
Yep I need a job this week. I want those heads...
Gonna buy that 302 of my buddys father. Its a 92 roller from a e250 van. His dad i guess freshened up the top end threw it in, it had a slight knock, then he pulled it for a 351w. For a complete bottomend, top end, and intake for 100 bucks I cant go wrong. I know the intake is prob a truck intake so thats no good to me, but I can throw it on craigslist and gain some money back, same with anything I dont use. Im getting a gt40 intake on trade for 2 refurbished sets of mark 7 dew wipes so im happy about that, and if i can get a set of gt40 irons, ill have a nice set up. Ill freshen up the block, maybe have it punched to a 306 and new pistons put in. Its gonna be a bit of cash, but I'll have a hell of a budget build up!
Not a bad motor
306, gt40 heads/intake, do mass air, and find something for a decent cam, and it should have more power then i'll ever need to move that tank!
Well just picked up a job doing some body work for my moms b/fs mom lol. I told her bf I want those heads so I believe im getting 100 so I can grab those heads!
checked out the motor
no intake, and timeing cover, other wise complete
has new cam, roller lifters, double roller timing chain, and its got different from stock heads. What heads, I dont know yet will find out once its home. He said the motor pulled much harder then the 302 he swaped in when he heard the knock on this one. He bought the motor built so knows nothing about it. I might luck out and not need to buy those heads!!
checked out the motor
no intake, and timeing cover, other wise complete
has new cam, roller lifters, double roller timing chain, and its got different from stock heads. What heads, I dont know yet will find out once its home. He said the motor pulled much harder then the 302 he swaped in when he heard the knock on this one. He bought the motor built so knows nothing about it. I might luck out and not need to buy those heads!!
Pass rear quarter is DONE. Striped the rear quarter, wheel well, and pass door, and rust treated it. Taped it off for some black primer tomorrow, then undercoat below the tirm, and gonna try and blend some blue in so it doesnt look to bad.
Then drivers side.... Striped fter the door about 4 inches below the window to the bottom... Lots of bondo covering just surface rust like WTF. Assholes put so much bondo over surface rust!!!!! Made all the sooo much more a pain in the BALLS. And I figure out how the trim goes on.... Pulled the back seat, seat belts, and sail panels...... UGHHHH
But its looking freaking shagy!!! Took lots of pics but I'm to tired to post them, will do that tomorrow!
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stripped all the rust and bondo off the door, and the 2 layers of paints and primers.... All the dark is the surface rust that they bondoed over, it doesnt have ANY pinholes, its SOLID, and the bondoed it and let it spread....
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Found this cause I saw a little peaking out of the seam sealer, so I stripped the seam sealer out so I can glass over that hole.
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Same thing here as the door, sanded out all the surface rust that was under bondo.
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Sanded out ALL the freaking bondo they put all up the side over more surface rust, pulled the interior out so I could unbolt the mounts for the thin trim, since there was so much rust around them. Need to get new mounts for there.
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From today, shows the rust proofer/killer I covered it with, and I washed the whole car cause it was covered in sanded paint, primer, bondo, fiberglass and seam sealer!
If you look at the second pic yu can see a area of light blue at the wheel well. Thats foam insulation I made a mold out of for the fiberglass to make that wheel well since they filled it with half a can of bondo before and it rusted through...
And you can see ther fiberglassed finished rear quarter.
dude! Keep it up, Looks great!
I wanted to get this deep into the t-bird this summer, but other junk keeps popping up. :punchballs:
Looks good dude. All you need is a spay gun and some paint for a quick outdoor paint job.
Good job
winging it with some spray paint hahah wont be great but beats looking at rust!
Well im not happy
of course I get a 4 day weekend, and im sick so the progress on the car is at a halt. The way im looking at everything I got a long ways to go before I'm driving this thing
Im stuck on a decision now
I can pick up this motor, and I already told the guy I would
Its a roller block, new cam, roller lifters, double roller timing chain, different from stock heads, no intake or timing cover. Now do I spent the hundred and grab the motor, or do I save the hundred for possible stuff on the car..... Im not sure as to what cam or heads are on the motor, and it does have a knock im told, but very little. He said it pulled real hard, harder then the stock replacement he replaced it with. Should I just grab it and sell off parts of it if needs be? I really wanna have something for a motor project, and if it turns out to be gt40 heads, and a good cam, im saving lots of money with a solid valvetrain.
The car needs the exhaust installed, an allignment, and I think that about it for stuff I cant do myself.....
Need some opinions here.... Also I am getting a gt40 upper and lower on a trade of 2 sets of refurbished mark 7 dew wipes so thats CHEAP....
If there's nothing wrong with your engine,save the money and use it later on upgrades.There's always another 5.0 out there.Get well soon.
My motor for the most part is ok I think. It doesnt seem to have been beaten, but it wasnt babied. Has some clatter in the valvetrain, and since I got it, I havnt been easy on it, pushing it past redline to 6k a few times when it was cold.... Stupid, but didnt think much of it then.
thing is finding one cheap around here isnt easy.
A 5.0 mustang lasts about 2 days at a s yard, they are brought in and GONE.
5.0 exploders and mountianer's? gutted for the 5.0. This block I know because the timing cover is off at least has a over 60 dollar double roller timing chain. And the plugs are at an angle, thats gt40 heads right? or are they p heads? All I know is I dont think they are e7 heads.
So ive been thinking, looking into money savings and Im gonna grab it before he advertises it for sale. If its gt40 heads that 100 saved, timing chain theres about 60-70 bucks. If its got the new lifters like its supose to thats over another 100.
I have access to a stand, Gonna be pulling in some good money in the summer so I'm gonna build a NICE DD motor, and get all the stuff for a 5 speed swap. If I keep this car, it will go in this, if not, it might go in a bird/cougar/another mark/ or a stang, depends on how well this car holds up, and what else I find resonable.
You could also get a good motor in a bird or cougar, If thats what the next project may be.
I'm sure it's a good find for a motor also, sounds like you need to make a list of pros and cons, with the rising gas prices.
gas is $4.30 a gallon over here. Don't see many people cruising around this weekend
we still at 3.90 here
at the moment I dont need fuel effiecent car, so Ill do this for now
bird 5.0 is flat top pistons, SO heads and intake so I'd have to get alot more stuff. Worse comes to worse, I can sell it off at a later date. Its only gonna be a mild motor, nothing insane, just something to move my boat easily, and get ok mileage
Bought it!!
What a steal!!! its just 5.0 with E7 heads. New freeze pluds, double roller timing chain, newer cam, looks like the block was done, the criss cross pattern is still in the walls!!! The motor didnt run right, all the pistons have serious carbon build up, and the heads have one pure white valve, and one dark black one.
plugs are pure white as well.
found out my neightbor works at a machine shop and offered to help set me up with machine work, a cam, part cleaning, and advice.
Im pysched, never expected to find a decent neighbor around here!
Makey the car so you can drive it around :mullet:
the car does
got to get the body work done hahah
I thought the brakes were still fubar.
nope
replaced every single brake line, all calipers, all rotors, and all pads.........
bye bye 350 bucks.......
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see the white valves, anyone know why??
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running lean? just a quess
yea thats my thought
i wonder if this cam was to much for the SD system in the van and it ran bad.
I wonder if I can figure out what kinda cam it is
Water leakage into the combustion chamber? I can't tell if it's on the intake or exhaust valve as the pic is dark.
intake valves cause they are the smaller valves
umm, the exhaust valves are smaller than the intake's.
i made a guess
I was wrong
correction i guess its exhaust valves that are pure white, all except one is black
all plugs are white
I hear someone got a welder
yep
waiting for my brothers friend to drop it off.
his friend is my saving grace
let me use his brand new in box engine stand(the one my 302 is on), his hoist, the welder hes giving me, and he payed for the grade 8 bolts I got to hold the motor up. He's been great
Once I clean out the shed some, im gonna start into the motor some. Pull the lifter reatiners, lifters, timing chain, and cam. I wanna try and see what condition the stuff is in, and attempt to figure out what the hell its got for a cam!
rainy weekend so no body work updates on the linc, but update for me, im single and 100% happier now! Means more time for work, and the car. Hell yes!!
Friends are a good thing, aren't they?
You should be able to do some panel work with a flux core welder.
I've never used one for sheetmetal, but I hear it works.
I can see some SFCs in your future too. LOL
I'll be waiting for the new updates.
yea im gonna try to make some
I ummm "borrowed" some long lenghts of square tubing, angle, and some 1/2 flat stock from my school shop class, so I wanna make front and rear strut bars(only doing a rear because this car is FAT and if i can get any flex out of it, GOOD) and possibly SFC's if i dont buy some.
It would be cheaper buying the tubing and making your own SFCs.
Unless you already borrowed some tubing for that.
got to borrow a nice 30 footer of square tubing
what kinda of tubing did you use? like thickness
10' 2x2 .120 (1/8 inch, I believe that is)
20' 1x1 for crossbraces and jack rail (optional)
Hard to tell in the pics but does it have valve reliefs?,
sort of looks like it.
yep sure does
its a 5.0 e7 headed truck motor, so its a 5.0 ho pretty much
Gonna clean up and sell the heads, and gonna serch the cam for a part numberits in good shape, I ben pulling parts and finding nothing wrong
other then I got no oil pickup
threw 65mm explorer tb on the car today
throttle response is insane now(compared to before) Check engine light and idle problems are gonna now too!
got a new front fender on it, got to go get the other fender, rear bumper, and other odds and ends off a mark they JUST got at the yard. Scored a set of fog lights too!
pics coming soon
O and needs new tires, 2 keep going flat
AHHHHHRYGHHGHJKHHJ
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still have to mod the TB to hook to the throttle cable!
What did you use for the cold-air intake? MAF or SD? I'm running the stock airbox with K&N filter and the resonator removed, but I'm wondering if a cold-air intake might make sense, especially since I have a 65mm TB, bored-out upper, 19# injectors, and "more cam" (whatever the mechanic means by that, LOL).
its a used cheapo mustang CAI kit for SD I payed 60 for it, and its been a nice mod, you can really hear it when you punch the gas down, and now with the TB, man the sound and response from jsut taping the gas is awesome!!
you can see it better in this older pic
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so, what's keeping you from driving this thing?
exhaust, bleeding brakes, finishing a little body work
o and no steady job for insurance money, plus getting it inspected wil be fun......
If you lived near me, I'd have you working. There's a LOT of work in construction/ remodeling here.
The car's looking like a car now. Your doing a good job.
Did I see some tubing laying under your car? SFCs?
hahah that the body trim!! Yea im working pretty steady with my grandfather, and on a farm(both ten a hour in cash so not bad)
Would be ncie to have steady work, I dont mind being a grunt, i perfer it over fast food and so its working out. Hav been doing LOTS of mechanic work on the side, lots of friends cars, and there familes always come to me first cause I can do it, and I am cheap. It all works out good! Plus if i need more tools, they buy!!
I need to fix some lights, a little body work, the exhaust, bleed the brakes, go over the front end and tighten everything up one last time to be sure I didnt miss anything, and some odds and ends and shes ready to go!! Wont have a radio or anything like that but o well, the 5.0 plays some really loud music right now!!
what I need to find is a batery saw to cut the wheel well out of the junkyard car for mine, rear quarters would be nice too. Got to go see if the car has been crushed yet tomorrow, grab the gt40 heads and some parts of the car if its still there, including the TB and EGR spacer so I can port match it, and mod the explorer TB to work in my car.
Home depot. 18v ryobi sawzall. I've been using mine to cut the of my car. I also used it when I cut the inner wheelwells off my car. fits in there with the wheel on to. :D
well i need one within this week, I have to find someone with one I can use. I need the lip of the rear wheel well, cause its a PITA to make out of fiberglass, and I dont wanna fill it in with bondo like it was
I need to remeber to get a rear bumper, mines rusted out, and wont do me much good if I get rear ended, so thats next too.
Need some opinions guys about tires
what should I do? I would like to put some GOOD rubber on it, possibly something like the z rated cooper cobras I have on the wheels.
17x8.5 inch wheels. I have NO clue about tires any help is good, cause I think the tires it has are gonna fail big time, they have next to nothing for tread, and are dry rotted. My stockers failed inspection too so I cant use those.
When i get new ones there will be burnout vids, I promise that much!
hahahhahahaha
thats the last thing I need!!
Found a set of chrome tail pipes for 50 bucks on craigslist Im gonna buy them and use them to finish off my exhaust. Still have to decided if im going out the side or the back
50 bucks I cant pass them up, cheaper then buying tips
http://providence.craigslist.org/pts/692885246.html
Think now if these work out pretty good, MIGHT attempt to do the exhaust myself. Need to get some flux wire, and some cut off wheels.
Take the pipes to the rear of the car.Out the side is for mullet having Camaro drivers.
out the sides after the rear wheels though is what I was thinking. Looks good on these cars I think. I will figure it out once i get these pipes.
Would have liked to do a bigger tip but 50 bucks for both whole pipes in chrome I cant pass it up
Any pics?
yep h/o
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If I do it I want to go a little further back before it goes out the side
Is there some lame music to listen to while we wait?lOL.
nope cause the pics are up haha
Oh O.K.,Nice.
all depends how I like it, and whats gonna be easier! Got to wait a little but no biggy it will happen soon!
next few weeks is all for the car!
I STILL say out the very back.
I say out the back, Looks like its rigged or it didn't work out right so they said "hell with it", and dumped them out the side.
Vinnie's rectangle tips would look killer on that car. (out the back of course) LOL
Yea i think out the back wins.......
no tips
those pipes are enough!
i think you should do stack pipes through the front fenders.
zoomies!!
buy the pipe and s and Ill do it
try me
oh you devil. maybe go up the roof. follow the roof contours.
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hahahah
tails are getting picked up this week along with the new welded. Then comes the task of seeing how high I can get the back safely to do all this work.
Got to first make mounts for the lers int he factory spot, then cut the flow tubes. then I can throw the full tails I have on, and cut them down to use the full lenght of the chrome pipe. Then its finishing body work, bleeding brakes, and finishing stupid stuff up!
Well when I broke my ignition I figured it was time to do what I wanted to do on this car, put in a start button. So I went out and bought on of those ricer ones on the fake carbon fiber plate withe the button, and a switch.
Im mounting it in my ashtray under the door, and I still want the key to turn the car on, and I want to be able to flip up the switch and press the button to start the car.
Not only will it look cool, but will be somewhat of a theif deturant, along with a kill switch I'm mounting in a special place as well!
gonna look sweet!! Gotta make a frame for it to fit it right down in there to close the door
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tail pipes are getting dropped off this week, bought some wire for my mig, and some new cut off wheels so I can do the exhaust myself.
Sent out the money for the 3g alt, IAC, igntion switch matching door locks and keys, and the money for a set of chucks shock adapters.
Getting a fuse for the 3g swap and a new battery this week too, and hopefully a set of tires. Gonna pull the drivers brakes apart and re-torque the rotor, and bleed the brakes. Then the exhaust is gonna be made up, and Ill have to get the tires mounted when I get them. Body work is put off for now till its 100% drivable.
Once its drivable I have to finish the fiberglass work on the drivers rear quarter, finish the metal work on the pass door, and finish the pass wheel well(gonna make it from metal) Then gonna spray down self etching primer, and then a sealer, and something for a top coat. Gonna paint all the trim black and install it then it should be golden for now
got my door locks and igntion switch today
still waiting on the tail pipes
and i just picked up a set of JBA 1 1/2 headers for 100 bucks, adn the kid is pulling the rear end out before the car goes to the yard and im getting the trac lok and 3.73's
why would you replace your factory headers with the same size?
well they are better then the stock units, and also only cost me 100 bucks shipped so they will be good for now
plus I didnt know they were the same size
when are you going to update your sig to a pic with the new rims?
who knows
got a new bumper, 120 mph speedo, trim, 3g alt, and new IAC
tomorrow is all about my baby
took the speedo apart, set the miles, painted the needles, and cleaned it all up.
going to get a few things for the 3g swap, then gonna do that see what that and the IAC does for a difference.
gonna throw my stock TB back on for now so I can have a gas pedel
ITS
DONE
and insured
got to wait ten days to register it and hope I can pass inspection with my tires I have on it
all thats left is body work and interior reassembly.
Cool, what do the tires look like anyway? Bad?
some serious dry rot
my dad custom fit and welding my whole exhaust(car is nasty when you stomp on it, silent at idle)
and I put in my 3g alt, all new front lights, new IAC, we bleed the brakes, torqued the rotors, did all kinds of shiznit
car drives amazing, and stops on a DIME.
Car runs MUCH better with new alt battery and IAC
181 dollars a month for insurance though....
Things are very expensive now. I think mine when I was 18, was around $70 a month, with full collision and glass.
181 for liabilty thats IT
but thats the lowest I can go since im a minor, and since its my own insurance I have to wait ten days to register my car cause they have to research me to see if they will insure me
Way to go ! Great job Mason.
we worked hard on it for two days and got the mechanical part DONE
it was a pain, but everything seems good so far
the alt worked out great! at least I think it did haha
Good deal! Wow! I can't believe insurance is so high - I though $360/year was a lot when I was that age :hick:
Holy hell! When I was 16 I was paying $720 a year, but I was also under my parents insurance. I pay $140 a month now for 2 cars, the 88 has full coverage and the 95 just has liabilty. I have a clean driving record so I'm sure that helps as well.
Right around $60 for me. Under my parents, liabilty. does down every year I drive no tickets or reported accidents. and Good student discount (3.0 or higher) and safe driver discount, did this packet thing.
without all that it would be around 110- 120 i think is what they said when I started driving.
Guys are suppose to be more of a risk yet I thnk that it is AT LEAST equal. We want to go fast, they want to talk on the phone and do make-up. Females always win though.
how bad was it to get the title?
didnt get a title
dont need one
and that was short lived.
Alt isnt charging the battery so it started giving me TONS of electrical problems, and its been running off the battery so it took forever to get it back in my yard form the street....
Vin you had that alt tested did you not? and you said it was good? well it HOWLS like hell, and isnt charging........
im gonna go over my wireing and trouble shoot it before I point my finger at you, but the howling worrys me.
Now I got a harness from a junkyard tarurus to run the wires. I hooked A to A and I to I from the V/R and cut the others off. Ran a 175 amp fuse and 4 gauge battery cable to the starter solinoid and connected the stock feed wire to the fuse as well.
BUT my alt harness wires DID NOT match the colors of the A and I wires.... but I hooked them up the way the online said to. IDK what to do guys, I got 8 more days to figure it out, or im gonna be paying insurance on a car i cant drive. I cant afford that....
O and I have my OWN insurance policy. I am not on my moms, because if i was i would be insured on her cobra, and her rate would go sky high...... Thanks mom for screwing me over.... O and because of having my own insurance, im a "minor fileing" so I have to wait 10 days to register the car... sucks to be under 18...
Never mind wiring colours, pay attention to the position they occupy in the connector instead. The 2G and 3G regulator plugs are the same but wire colours and functions are different. Also, did you connect the small side terminal to the regulator plug? The 3G alternator needs that to function.
*EDIT* I just remembered you've got a Mark VII, which, if I remember correctly, is externally regulated and used a 1-G alternator originally. If this is the case, pay particular attention to my note at the bottom of the diagram below about externally regulated cars.
Really you should only need two wires going to the alternator: One from the ignition switch (I) and one for the main output. The other two wires in the regulator plug just go back to the alternator, one to the side terminal and one to the main output terminal as shown below. The second pic shows the side terminal I was referring to.
you have 2 plugs on the back of a 2g alt.
1 has 2 blk/o wires and a w/blk.
the other has g/red, w/blk, and yellow.
cut all 3 wires off the plug with the blk/o wires. blk/o wires go to stud on the back of the alt. the w/blk needs to be spliced onto the single wire connector(that hopefully you got on the taurus harness). this plug should connect into the 3g alt.
this is my write up i used
http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00081.html
so idk if theres more to it im missing
but thats how u hook up mine and its not working...
Yes,I had it checked.Take it down to Autozone or wherever and have it checked again.I thought yesterday the car was running "amazing".If the alternator is bad,I'll shoot you a refund.It's easy.It sounded good when it was checked.Like I said,we can work it out.
That Lincolns Online writeup is very vague and doesn't look particularly accurate (or safe, for that matter - using a 1/4" bolt and nut to secure the alternator?!?!?!? And leaving that 175A megafuse exposed like that?). You'd be much better off using my diagram above. Simpler, easier to troubleshoot, and guaranteed to work (with a functional alternator, of course)...
ill figure it out.....
ill have to re do it then like yours
thanks alot
and i covered my fuse, im not stupid.
there shouldnt have been any question about getting the "terminals" right. there is 1 plug on a 2g that will plug into the 3g. the other plug with the 2 blk w/ orange striped wires needs to be cut, and a ring terminal crimped on and placed on the rear stud. the white wire w/ blk stripe has a seperate female connector the plugs into the stator.
here's another pic:
(http://fordfuelinjection.com/public/alternator/3Galternator05.jpg)
my car came with a externally regulated 1g
so there was only 1 plug and it wouldnt fit in the 3g alt, it was 2 wires and ran to the voltage regulator, then there was two other wires running to were ever they go, u cut those off and attach them to the 3g plug the A and I wires(like noted on the plug)
I wonder if doing it that way will screw up my car?
so if i run A wire to the alt it should fix it??
once this is fixed im gonna do the biggest freaking brake stand I cant possibly get out of my tires on my 17's
need to vent my anger in a positive way, and i need to get the old tires off the rims so BAKE EM OFF!!!
gonna get a camera and tape it its gonna be interesting to say the least
That depends on what you mean by running the A wire to the alt. If you look at my diagram (and 32vfoxbird's photo, which is essentially a photograph of what I've drawn) you can see that the yellow/white stripe A wire goes from the regulator plug to the output stud. The white/black stripe S wire goes to the side terminal (Stator). The only wire you need to run from your old regulator to the new alternator is the "I" wire. Cut it off the old regulator and connect it to the I wire on the new regulator plug. Disconnect your old regulator completely, as it is no longer required.
pulled the alt
and it failedddd
at least i know whats wrong now!
update pics soon
lets just say the car looks amazing now, and all it took was some various black paints, and tape
getting a reman 3g and modding it and installing it this long weekend, and finishing body and paint work, the putting the inside together and im gonna have one bad ass ride!!
im excited!!
You're not the "Stinkin Lincoln" that used to post on the Corral, are you?
nope
I forget who called my car a stinkin lincoln I wanna say it was fila so I adopted the name
Just wondered - there was a stinkin lincoln that used to post there years ago...
based on the fact he's 15, i highly doubt it.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but some people post when they are young :D
this is the first message board i ever joined haha
Got any recent pics of that Stinkin Lincoln
car runs great, looks amazing, is insured, and way to go me, I get ass ****ed by this god state and the pen 15 sucker who sold me this ****ing car
Mother ****er never registered the car, and never paid the taxes on it, so the states like well technically he never owned the car, so he had no right to sell you it
Like ****, how the hell do I fix that shiznit? Go back to the guy in newyork that owned it what like 6-8 years ago? I doubt he has the title to the ****ing thing, or a registration.
I just dont know what the **** to do now. Got tunes in it, paint and body work is in final stages, BRAND NEW 3g alt, runs like a champ, goes like hell, just needs a allignment.
As if my life didnt have enough issues to deal with now I have to play run around with this car, WHILE im paying insurance on it. Next payment due the 26th and my mom paid 220 down to start the insurance, and she wont do it again.
ideas? I got one idea cause I know someone high up in RI state house, but I doubt she can help me...
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I know in Mass, cars older than xx number of years don't even need a title - a bill of sale is all that's needed. Same here in NH. I could register that car in a heartbeat up here - are you sure they wont register it? Since when does it matter whether the person who claims previous ownership registered it - possesion is 9/10 of the law. 10/10 in most states if the car is very old and you have a bill of sale.
they want taxes from him
plain and simple she pretty much said that to me
it doesnt need a title
but it needs a prior registration OR title
His taxes = not your problem. If it was from New York, what claim does RI have? Makes no sense to me.
Prior registration = there are ways around this - they have exceptions for fabricated or restored cars in most states. My T-'Bucket was "manufactured" in a garage - a state trooper simply had to inspect it for compliance to state laws for Hot Rods.
bought the car from a kid in RI
they say theres no way from them to prove he had any right to sell the car to begin with
idk if I can get into any of those but i guess its worth looking into, its got 5 years before its considered emissions exempt and all that
I guess I have to talk to my old neighbor that works with the state
as much as i hate talking to people bout stuff...
The bill of sale, if a non-titled vehicle and proof of ownership (such as old title, copy or photocopy of the previous registration or copy of tax bill) from the person who sold you the vehicle.
Unfortunately you will likely have to ask around 'till you find out who can give you the exception that you need. You may have to do some legwork. You may be able to look up your motor vehicle laws online - I know I can do that here and it helped me a lot. Amazing how much more respect you get when you can quote the section of the law that pertains to your situation. People are generally lazy and won't do anything they don't have to.
Does the kid that sold it to you have any paperwork, or is that back in NY or...? No title anywhere? Carfax?
carfax does me no god, theres no record other then some one bought it from a dealer
it hasnt been registered in like 8 years
who ever bought it from a dealer didnt need a title to register it, but never did anyway
the kid i bought it from had it for a few years never registered it, or got a title
were anything is i have no idea
RI dmv site says i can try to get a old registration from them for a fee so im trying to see if new york does that
wish i would have seen this before i bought it
Important: Before you purchase a vehicle, a trailer, a boat, a snowmobile or an ATV, make sure that you can receive acceptable proof of ownership. If you do not have the acceptable proof of ownership, you can have difficulties when you register the vehicle or get a title certificate or transferable registration in your name.
and this
The buyer and seller can make photocopies of the bill of sale to keep in their records. The new owner must give the original bill of sale to the DMV with the other acceptable proofs of ownership required. A bill of sale is not an acceptable proof of ownership without other proofs.
BINGO!!!
Thank you New york!
Write to the owner and request that the owner transfer the acceptable proof of ownership to you and mail the proof to you. Use certified mail to request a return receipt.
If you do not receive proof of ownership, and the US Postal Service returns your certified letter, bring all of these items to a DMV office:
* The returned certified letter in its envelope, not opened.
* A pencil tracing, a photo or a police statement that shows the vehicle identification number.
* A notarized affidavit that explains how you got the vehicle and describes how you tried to get the acceptable proof of ownership.
* Other documents that are evidence of ownership. For example, any bills of sale or registration documents of previous owners, or your cancelled check for payment, is evidence of ownership.
* A completed form MV-51B (Statement of Ownership). Note: If you have had the vehicle, the boat or the snowmobile for less than one year and it was never registered by the previous owner, the previous owner must complete form MV-51B.
O **** Rhode Island
# You must pay sales tax on your vehicle even if you do not register the vehicle.
# Sales tax must be paid by the 20th day of the month following the month of purchase. For example:
* Bill of sale date is February 1st. You have until March 20th to pay your sales tax even if you do not register the vehicle.
* After that date, interest and penalty on the original tax will begin to accrue.
Hmm, got a little work to do, but looks like there's a path you can follow.
hopefully
unless rhode island is freaking gay about it
theres also this but im not sure that rhode island does this
Important Note: If your proof of ownership for a vehicle, boat, or snowmobile that is non-titled is not a NYS transferable registration transferred to you by the previous owner, the local DMV office will issue a non-transferable registration. You can use the vehicle, boat or snowmobile with a non-transferable registration, but you cannot transfer your ownership to another person.
After your non-transferable registration is issued, the DMV Title Services Bureau examines your proofs. The Title Services Bureau decides if the DMV can issue a transferable registration. The Title Services Bureau will mail to you a transferable registration or a letter that explains why the DMV cannot issue a transferable registration.
Why didnt you look into all of this when you bought the car?how long have you had the car?
Think it is an age issue there. I do not mean that as an insult Mason. I sat on my car for aboout a year and a half before I got it tagged and insured. If no one is there to explain the process of taking ownership of a car to you its hard to be prepared. All I know was I needed a title and inspection and e test. If I didnt have the title I would have been lost since from what I understand it is hard to tag a car without on here. I think that if he knew it would have been a problem then he would have got it done before he paid that insurance set up. First cars teach you alot. this is just one more thing learned.
ive owned the car for a year and a half
I was under the impression that I could get a title with the bill of sale so I left it at that because when I bought it, it was nothing more then a parts car.
Technically I COULD get a salvage title or reconstructed because it was more the repair the car then the value of it when I bought it. BUT because I didnt have receipts for any of the parts for the most part, i cant prove that.
Time to harrass the DMV and try to get some answers. I need more to go on then o you need proof.
But yea if I had known all this shiznit I would have never got the thing, cause I mean that guy ****ED me over so bad when I bought this thing. So much more was broke then he told me, so much hidden body damage, plus all this B/S now.
Thinking bout taking tomorrow out of school to see what I can get from the DMV
i'd just call the dmv and ask what the procedure is for a lost/abandonment title. My friends jake only had to have a county sheriff come and run the vin # to make sure it wasn't stolen and then gave him a yellow tag to take to the dmv.
Also, I have to pay taxes on the value of the car every year that I register all of my cars here.
started pulling the nose apart the other day
Motor is starting to come out tomorrow morning
Shes going bye bye....
Did you get the other one?
will be by the end of this month
Hope it all works out for you. Im trying to get 2 SHOs right now and its non stop trying to figure out how to get them here and what needs to be done and who i need to get ahold of. Need to sell the truck, I know how you feel now. I have the Cougar though so its not as hard
Good luck Mason I feel real bad for ya. Nothin' but a really py situation. Just keep at it soon enough you'll have something you can cruise around in with your nose in the air. :D You busted ass on that one, and look what it became. I gotta imagine the next one will be just as good. :cool:
no Mason, he did not F you over at all. you bought a used car, (a parts car by your own words) from a guy. When you do that it is your responsibility to judge the car for yourself. It is not his responsibility to show you everything that is wrong with the "parts" car. The guy told you what he did as a courtesy, and that was pretty nice of him I think.
As for the title, registration, whatever you want to call it. You seem to be trying to suck a little sympathy here when we both know (plus several others on the forum) that you were warned a year and a half ago by myself and others to make sure the title situation was in order BEFORE you went to far with all the work on it. You ignored the warnings because you already "knew" what you were talking about and had all the answers.
All well and good.. BUT you know me well enough by now.. when you (or anybody else) stop taking responsibility for your own decisions, and start passing the blame off on somebody else (especially somebody that can't be/isn't here to defend themselves)
It's times like that when I feel compelled to stand up and scream BS!:slap:
You DID know, you refused to accept, you bought it anyway, then you turned around and put a bunch of time and effort into it anyway having already been warned.
Best post in this thread.
WOHOOOO there pal.
You need your facts in order. I bought the car with the idea form the previous owner, it needed a gas tank(which it came with) and a brake line and it would be a daily driver. He said you can get a title no problem, because I was gonna file for one myself. I knew NOTHING then I knew now, so I took his word, and what my father thought and ran with it. It was NOT a parts car, *I* classify it now because of all the shiznit that I didnt see then. Yea I took a gamble on the car, and I went by what I had been told, instead of looking into it, yes its MY FAULT. I NEVER ONCE blamed ANYONE for the fact I ended up having so much work into it, only for it to be for nothing. I blame myself for being to pen 15y about it(and if he had paid taxes like he was suppose to all would have been fine). Its a lesson learned, and Ive learned alot, and had TONS of fun with this car(big ass burnout video being made tomorrow for all you guys.).
Im not gonna sit here and start a argument, but don't go saying im asking for sympathy and pity. Yes you all told me, but I prayed and hoped(theres me being naive and im ADMITING it) my state laws were different. I have nothing but MY blood sweat and tears in this car, and I regret not being able to register it, but honestly its all been worth it.
You got problems with my naive-ness, and my pride in what i've done, guess what, I'm not losing sleep over it.
I will not make the same mistakes again.
Guy's, I think we've beat this one to death. Everyone agrees, "lesson learned"
The next project will show what was learned from the first. So I'm patiently waiting for the "Stinkin Lincoln II" thread. The 2nd one is always easier anyway.
Thanks
I dont want sympathy, and I dont want to be a thick headed punk in the eyes of you guys.
I know I did things in a bad order, but now I have a full parts car for my new one so its all good
Going to look at it, check out all the paper work, and test drive the new one this week. No money changes hands till I know 1. The condition of the car, and 2. If I have ALL the paperwork.
Best part is I get to drive it home the day I buy it!