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Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: FLYN83BIRD on May 09, 2007, 11:59:30 AM
SO toward the end of last year my friend and I were on our way on the highway and almost to our destination.  Well we didn't make it there with my bird.  We ended up taking a $30 cab ride across the town we were in and the event we were going to.  My car was on the highway and almost there and all of a sudden poof.  Couldn't see behind and the car quit.  Popped it in nuetral roll up the on ramp and luckily made it to a parking lot.  Well I finally got to the bottom of it and found out that I melted a piston.  Now I am taking the motor out and doing alot of stuff.  Completely ripping out the Computer and going carb.  I will post pics of what I have started and the canage very soon.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: DVP on May 09, 2007, 12:03:11 PM
what do you have? so are you swaping a new/different motor or rebuliding?
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 84 Fila on May 09, 2007, 12:06:39 PM
IMO, go with a good Used Ho block and go from there. Decient heads, roller cam, good bottom end.... it's a good starting point for not that much. Might just be what I do
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: FLYN83BIRD on May 09, 2007, 12:10:16 PM
I have a 83 302 with CFI.  And I am not sure what I am gonna go with I may go roller I may not.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: FLYN83BIRD on May 09, 2007, 01:35:43 PM
Here are some pics!  Just yanked the whole harnessw out also all the way to the computer.  Day by day it will get done.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa245/LukeZoch/006.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa245/LukeZoch/004.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa245/LukeZoch/003.jpg
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 84 Fila on May 09, 2007, 01:52:48 PM
Combined time to do carb for me was about 3 days of working streched over 3 months in winter. Not the hardest thing in the world do to. Motor wise though, I still stand by the roller motor. Built out of car and just drop in and go
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 32VFoxBird on May 09, 2007, 06:21:04 PM
good god! you have a cluster **** there! good luck.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: kingcars on May 09, 2007, 07:44:40 PM
Why do you wanna go carb?
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: dominator on May 09, 2007, 08:34:24 PM
Carb's old school,go mustang roller HO,you'll be better off.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: HAVI on May 09, 2007, 08:45:33 PM
not to hijack, but I heard old school.  I'm going carbed as well....but I like to be different.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: Prototype Services on May 09, 2007, 09:59:22 PM
I'm going carbed too, but I am biased.
Plus, finding an injection system for a Yates head Cup motor ain't easy nor cheap.....
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on May 09, 2007, 10:11:13 PM
I'm going carbbed because I have more cam selection
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 32VFoxBird on May 09, 2007, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: 86Tbuzzard;146131
I'm going carbbed because I have more cam selection


Huh?! that has nothing to do with cam selection. you can have just as good of a cam if you kept it F.I. now Ford's speed density doesnt work too well with aftermarket cams, but Mass Air does.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on May 09, 2007, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;146135
Huh?! that has nothing to do with cam selection. you can have just as good of a cam if you kept it F.I. now Ford's speed density doesnt work too well with aftermarket cams, but Mass Air does.

The cam I selected wouldn't work with it...had to get special pistons *deep relief* because of the valve lift. now I can argue over which fuel delivery system is better...had them both. but that'd open up a bigger can of worms, and not chocolate covered either.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 32VFoxBird on May 09, 2007, 10:44:58 PM
so a carb gives you better PTV clearance?! LOL!
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on May 09, 2007, 11:11:41 PM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;146152
so a carb gives you better PTV clearance?! LOL!

I NEVER SAID THAT! WTH I didn't want to buy the whole conversion , then have to get a reprogrammed computer, bigger TB, injector sizes, mass air meter. also this is going into a '83 cougar that has CFI.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on May 09, 2007, 11:25:14 PM
I love carbs!
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 32VFoxBird on May 09, 2007, 11:26:36 PM
maybe i misunderstood your point. CFI is shiznit, so i dont blame you for putting a carb on. afterall, im putting one on a 32v 4.6L. :evilgrin:
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on May 09, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;146177
maybe i misunderstood your point. CFI is shiznit, so i dont blame you for putting a carb on. afterall, im putting one on a 32v 4.6L. :evilgrin:


it happens...
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 10, 2007, 02:56:53 AM
I was sure for about 3 years that I was gonna take my '85 from CFI  to Carb... had an intake, brand new carb and lokar cables all ready for it.  When I sat down & thought about it though, I decided EFI was a better choice for what I'm using the car for.  I had a long-term plan of going from a non-roller CFI to carb, then goind EFI with a newer roller block down the road.  Foolish, though, because EFI will work fine with a Non-roller.  I decided it only for the fuel economy reasons, but the smooth acceleration and great throttle response were also factors.

Nothing wrong with carbs, but you'd be surprised how plug & play EFI is when you have a CFI car.  Has a lot of the same sensors, etc.  I know it's too late now, but I thought I'd mention it.
Title: Started - The Big Project
Post by: FLYN83BIRD on May 10, 2007, 08:50:57 AM
Nobody is wrong here.  There are good and bad advantages to carb and efi.  I personally like carb cuz most of my friends are not into cars.  I learn most of my stuff from my uncle and his friends who have cars that are alot older and are all carb.  For me to learn alot mre and to be able to tune it is alot easier for me.  I can have a roller motor with a carb.  Plus I like to have a really nice clean engine bay.  So without having efi I don't have to worry about all of the wiring and what not.  You will be very impressed once I am done with it.  I am glad that I have gotten alot of response from this thread on different veiws.  That's what makes it nice about having this site at our leisure.  Everyone can give there two cents to someone and advice.  :birdsmily: