Hello Everybody. Here is the deal. Between tax returns and my 5-year bonus at work I've got some money coming my way within the next few months. I have a few different things I'd like to do with the car but unfortunately the money I'm getting will not be enough to do them all.
So my question to you is which of these would you do if you had to choose one of them?
1. Complete re-paint.
2. Installation of HO 5.0
3. TC rear end/CHE control arms/new bushings throughout.
I'm just weighing my options right now and trying to decide if I should spend the money on the Cougar or use it to pay down some debt....
well is the car decent if so id say get rid of the debt.
The car is okay. It has sun damage on the roof and the clearcoat is peeling on the hood. The paint job is pretty much beyond saving and it needs to be repainted. The body, though, is straight and rust free.
The engine is okay too. It has worn piston rings so it burns a little oil but nothing you can see in the exhaust. It loses about a quart every 3000 miles but has proven to be very reliable since I bought the car in October of '02.
It's just a stock '87 LS. It's got 121,xxx miles on it right now.
Getting out of debt is never a bad thing beyond that I would go with new paint
I also say debt, if you can get rid of it do it. Then start gathering parts and do the 5.0HO swap.
If you decide to work on the car, think safety first. Do the suspension. #3
You sure you're not just saying that because of your recent experience, Brian? :giggle:
No, Jim, trust me. The last thing I wanna do is see someone else get a new rear end in thier car before me! I have, very many times, almost lost control of the t-bird, even with good 15" tires because of soft worn out stock suspension.
I say do up your ride.
If you die tommorow what did you have,no debt,yay.
Do what you want and make your cat the way you want it.
The hell with the creditors, make them wait for there money.
pay off your debts.. your money will pile up much more quickly.. and you'll reach all your goals
your engine, I'm sure, is fine I have 184k miles on my 5.0 (granted its an HO, but same block..) leaks somewhat (rear main and valve covers), doesn't burn much, if any oil (spark plugs are always clean when I change them) and I've made 80 passes down a 1/4 mile track since I bought it last year, previous owner had raced it as well, don't know how often... there's no knocks/oil pressure's good, compression's good, etc - not bragging, trying to make a point... my point is - your engine's fine for now.. I'd upgrade suspension and rear, too, until you decide you want performance to match it..
I did the 5 lug/big brakes conversion, sway bar, sport rack&pinion, poly bushings, mustang rims/tires first. This gave the car drivability. It made it more fun to play with even though it was still weak in the engine department. After all you don't have to be going very fast to enjoy taking a corner much faster than before or just making quick maneuvers on the street. That cost me about $300 for front and about $300 for the back. This engine swap I am currently doing is going to end up costing at least $1500. I am doing it now to put some power into the car. This is my phase two of drivability. Also with all of the major items in the car I won't have to worry about scratching paint the whole time Im doing all of this work. Next I will paint the car. Then I will do the interior, which will be the most fun for me. Oh yeah, paying off your debt is what you should do, but that's no fun. I should be paying off my debts as well, but there will always be excuses not to waste money on your car. I just decided to put those excuses to rest. With your engine and paint basically still functioning, you should go after the suspension first. If you like to drive as I do you will love the handling improvements. Jason.
when i saw the asshole, i thought it was going to be a thread about me :p
i say get out of debt, because debt leads to less spending money
PAY OFF THE DEBT !!!!
Then put the money you were sending the creditors in a "Cougar" fund.. Should be a lot easier to save money for your car, than to pay bills...
Well guys I appreciate the advice. Even though I'd really like the instant gratification of improving the car I know that the responsible thing to do is to pay down the debt. The money I'm getting isn't going to pay it off but it will cut about a year off of the payments so I can get it out from under me that much quicker.
The only thing is that I had really hoped to be able to do something to the car before Cat Jam this year. I keep the old Cougar clean but it just looks tired.
what to do when u have extra money?
Well if u spend money on the car for anything and something goes wrong u will be in more debt then u are now. Pay off your debt and u can wait for deals or untill something goes wrong at least u can go back in debt to fix it.
Swap in 5.0 then tranny might not last with new found power, rearend will not like u.
If u paint the car it will look better and unless it realy needs a paint job i would leave it for now.
Worse thing is money in pocket and no idea how to wast it i meen spend it.
Even worse when u spend it and the next day a better deal comes by.
hey you could pay off yor debt and then pay for what you need on your car w/your new avalable credit (that you just paid off).this way you get both done.Kinda :brick:
Pay bills first.,,,,
only one problem with that though,,,,
your gonna always have bills so why not enjoy a little bit of your spare cash. There was a day when id never give out advice like this but ive become more calm about money lately.
Id figure on the engine first cause thats what really matters on the front end. If you need a real good contact on 5.0 ho engines down there, my brother-in-law is near you. Nice fellow and works at the Dayna Plant. leme know email.
Hey Jim, how about like 50/50 between the debt/goodies. And if you're worried about not bringing anything new to CJ this year, just look over at the next parking spot to my Cougar in all its glory :sleep:
As for projects, I'd go with the suspension/bushing stuff. My logic is, do engine stuff before paint (Murphy's Law states you'll always find some way to ruin a new paint job...especially while trying to cram in a new engine). But since engine work costs lots of dough and disables the car for long periods, I'd go with the bushings, etc. option. Seems like the cheapest route with almost immediate gratification.
Yup, I'd say #1 debt, #2 Suspension, # 3 Engine and last #4 the paint.
Speaking from my own experience, you pull that engine and put another one in, you are going to become tempted to do a lot more because that empty engine bay tempts you to "do a few more things" as it would be more difficult when the engine is back in. All this means is the estimated bill to complettion ends up being higher than originally planned. If your current engine still has life, stay with it a while longer!
get rid of the debt, that way you can save up more money without all that intrest building up and get all 3 things done on your bird!
You WILL be able to save more money if you get rid of debt.
Im in debt and im building the car do it all at once HAHAHAHA. OK maybe you are not a multitasker like me but id say the suspension is the way to go