Does anyone know where to purchase this color in a spray can?I have checked Dupli-colors webb page and they do not list it. I am trying to do some touch up work and I am having no luck at all,matching this paint up...........uuuuuuuuuuugh :confused:
you could have a quart mixed up at a paint store. then get a sprayer that works off CO2 cartriges
You're talking about the 1983 code 9D, correct?
I don't recall seeing that in a spray can, at least in Dupli-Color...
Most auto paint stores can mix it if it's a factory color and then charge a spray can with it. Least they USED to be able to do that.
no idea of the cost
that is correct
thanks for the suggestions guys,I will go have some mixed.
I had to get a can made up for me when I had my old light sage green '85 T-Bird. It was quite costly (about $15, back when a can of Dupli-Color was $3), but since nobody made Light Sage Green Metallic in spray bombs it was either that or paint the whole bloody car...
Ok,I took a pic of the code # that they give on the car.what color is this? I dont see it listed on coolcats site.
Note:I used the macro on my camera............lol
alright,I am getting real confused.according to the exterior paint code # on the car (1M) this is "pearl".On the coolcats site,1M is "light charcoal".can someone please clear this up for me.
does anyone else have a 1983 bird or cougar with the paint code 1M?
I have an 83 and 84 paint chip set. It states that 1M is Lihy Charcoal. Could your car be either 62 Antique Cream, 6y French Vanilla, or even a newer 84' 9l Oxford White? Or one better, is the car a repaint? This is 1M:(http://www.coolcats.net/fox/images/1m.gif) and it doesn't look like your car
I agree,that does not look like my color.what is the code # on your car Fila.my color looks to be close to yours.this could very well be a "light charcoal" color,but it sure looks white to me.......lol.
This car still has the original paint,so I know it hasnt been changed.
Mine is " Pastel Charcoal" which to my knowlage is a Fila only color. Paint code 1M. Holy shiznit, did I miss something?
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/Fila/000_2144.jpg)
From what I see man, you either have a Fila paint code, or my car is really messed up. I think we should hook up one day and compair them. They look to be close in color I do agree. Is there a picture you have of your car in the sun, one in teh shade, and a side shot. Here's mine to compair to:
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/000_2228.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/000_2217.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/000_2208.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/84fila/Fila/untitled.jpg)
Ok,I am going to say we both have "light charcoal"I am going to the paint store, look at there charts, and see what "light charcoal"looks like on there chart.
If you look at the car,it does have a charcoal or light blue tint to it.this must be where they come up with "light charcoal":confused:
Mine doesnt. It's solid white. Mind you some 6 odd years of dirt and hand prints but it's white. And to the best of my knowlage, it's Pastel Charcoal, which is a Fila only color. I may be wrong here, but I've never seen a hint of blue of anything else on my car other then a matt white
I just checked my 1983 Mercury exterior color book that dealerships used...that code 1M is called Light Charcoal and it is indeed a very light greyish-blue, almost white but not quite. That swatch that Fila posted is pretty accurate in that respect. I can actually tell from your photo, Chooglin, that your car is that color...it never looked white to me. It's a very nice color, I dig it.
So I guess you can stop looking for code 9D now. :hick:
Hey Eric. His story checks out but what about mine? Look at my door code, it clearly stated 1M. Did I miss something
I only have Lincoln-Mercury books, not Ford ones...my 1984 book does not show 1M for L-M cars, but that doesn't mean it wasn't available over on the Ford side, which from your car looks to be the case. So for your particular car and model year, 1M would be correct.
thanks for clearing this up Eric.
when I first posted,I was looking at the # just below the exterior color, and that is not correct.that is why I thought it was not
showing up on coolcats.
I am now convinced I have Light charcoal, and will be getting the paint soon.
one more thing,did they use clear coat back then and would it be wise to clear coat after its been painted?
For 1983 there were clearcoat colors but yours was not one of them. Basically any solid, non-metallic color (white, red, black, tan, etc.) was not clearcoated back then. However, now you can get virtually any color mixed up in base/clear. The choice is up to you... technically you have acrylic enamel now, and that will match better. Clearcoat will yellow slightly and might stick out next to the stock paint.
thanks again for your knowledge Eric !!!
Does that mean the my car and his are the " same" color? Since both our codes are 1M?
They should be. Well, er, his is more correct...yours needs some Simple Green, some soap and water, several days with a buffer, and about 15 coats of wax. But you get the point. ;)
I can see that happining soon. But I have NO bluish tint to mine. It looks to be pure white with some dirt. Alittle shine left in the paint but no blue. And isn't the car susposed to be " pastel charcoal"? Not sure of a paint code but thats what I got out of the Fila book I got from Mike
Claude's 1983 is Polar White, and that color is white with a bit of yellow. It's got WAY more yellow than 9L (Oxford White) but it's not nearly as creamy-yellow as Light Wheat. So I know for sure that if you had Polar White, or even Oxford White, we'd be talking about yellow tinges.
Pastel (Light) Charcoal is, for all practical purposes, a shade of "dark white" that is slightly on the bluish side. That doesn't mean it's light blue. What it means is that, if you hold up a sheet of bright white laser paper next to the car out in the sunlight, you should see the paint in its true nature. Use your eye to judge how the paint shifts compared to the paper. For a relatively unfaded paint job you *should* see a slightly bluish cast. But it can just look light grey...that's fine also. The point is, it's not a true white, just a slight toning down of white. I think even the T-Bird brochures showed Filas as a light grey, not a true white.
This is what happens when you have one of those factory colors. It's unique, but it's not what you think it is because it changes in different lighting. If you want a true light grey, look to 1987-88 Smoke Grey (1K). It's almost like 1M but truly a grey. In comparison, 1M looks white. But compared to 9L we know that 1M is not. Again, it's one of those indescribable colors. But it's way cool nonetheless.
After 20 years I'm finally paying great attention to all of the colors used on these cars (inside and out) and have concluded that we had some insanely cool, subtle colors that unfortunately don't get the attention they deserved. 1M is definitely one of those. So is 1K (1987-88 Smoke). So is 2Y (1986 Midnight Wine). So is 3W (1986 Medium Regatta Blue). So is 91 (1984 Pastel Academy Blue, possibly the perfect color for showing off all the curves and lines on these cars). Of course, the elusive 1985 Light Sage Green Metallic (4B) is always a stunner. It's one thing to see these cars on the Internet; it's another to see them in person. That's when you really appreciate the subtlety that went into color selection. I, for one, can't wait to see Chooglin's car in person. Since he's only 45 minutes away from me, you think that would have happened by now (HINT HINT). ;)
And Mikey...get yours cleaned up and I bet you'll be surprised at the color...
Well, she will be clean and waxed by CJ for sure. Then we can compair the two. Or 3 or how ever many.
ok Fila,this pic should show you the diff. between "light charcoal" and white. I attempted to match my paint with dupli-colors "pure white" as you can see they are alot diff. the greyish blue tint really comes out in this pic.
WEll, I guess compaired to that, my car does have a bit of a tint to it. Just still don't see the blue tint to it. Might be there under 7 years of dirt and finger prints
Is this a two tone code? 1M and 1J
Neither 1M or 1J is listed in my 84 shop manual.
Not a clue. I have 1M in the 83 ford paint chips as Light Charcoal and 1J as Grey in the 84 set of paint chips. I assume since mine is Pastel Charcoal that thats why I don't have a tint to my paint. Unless someone else has a better idea. Also a note that according to this, I have GW for my int code. That translates to The wnding W = Oxford White Int information. No clue on the G though.
Sure is an awful long thread about white paint!
One wouldn’t think there would be that much to talk about.
“It’s ummmm White”
About covers it doesn’t it?
:evilgrin:
Well Jim, as you can see from the postings in this thread, white is not always white. Through a collaborative effort we all learned quite a bit...which is the purpose of this board, is it not? ;)
G = Leather/Vinyl Articulated Buckets
W = White/Charcoal (white is perforated)
For 1984 I'm showing 1M as Pastel Charcoal...it is most certainly the same color as 1M from 1983. I'm not showing 1J in my paint chips but again, remember that I have only L-M books. That is probably a correct interpretation though.
I'll scan my paint chips a bit later to try to help this out a bit
You know, I think I was the only one I knew that ever liked that sage green Bird I had. Everyone else thought it was an ugly colo
ur. It looked really good with the chrome Cragar rims and white letter tires. It was an odd shade of green - the metallic component almost gave it a goldish tint. Even the buddy of mine that bought an '85 the same colo
ur as mine but with tan interior hated it and painted it a darker green.
Ford is now painting Mustangs in a similar colo
ur, but more greeny and less goldy. One of the better looks on the Mustang, IMO - a retro colo
ur on a retro car
Exactly...and it can even photograph like that, so much so that you'd swear it's gold and not green. That's the kind of subtlety I'm talking about. It's too bad we're 20 years hence...to see these on the new car lot in their original shape, with all the different colors, I think a lot of people would see them with new eyes. Maybe there wouldn't be so many ed black, red and white ones out there now... ;)
Hey, I like my red! :hick:
FILA, the 1J is Charcoal, which is your bottom paint. My 84 TBird book shows it (no, not for sale, stop asking :hick: )
I really like all the subtle colors these cars got. The 83/84 in that bluish Charcoal color we talked about a few weeks ago is really nice! I made John buy an 84 TC :D It's a 2-toner as well, with the break at the bodyline up by the windows instead of the molding like FILA. It's black on top and Charcoal on the sides (I think). I'm going to see it this weekend to get all the info for the registry.
THIS is why it's important to have Paint color AND paint code for the registry!
I told ya Mike, what ever you need for your records, let me know, it's yorus.
i like my red and silver thank you very much. aint nada wrong with red and silver better than plain old boring white:giggle: :raspberry
I like my Black