I just Read in a motor trend that in 08 2 horrible things will be happening to the Lincoln ls.
#1. They plan to switch it from rear wheel to front wheel, (to as they put it under pin the Montego and 500)
#2. Top of the line Ls's will be recieving a transversly mounted 4.4 311 horse power Yahama engine.(BOOOO)
The only Promising thing looks to be the Towncar they plan on a 4.6 triton which will most likley be strecthed to a 5.0. For release in 09
the Taurus SHO's have Yamaha engines
Yeah, DO NOT boo that Yamaha engine until you take a ride in an SHO. I had a '92 5-speed and it was the fastest car I've ever driven. The power beyond 3k rpm (7k redline) is UNREAL. Basically it's like a new generation SHO. I don't think that's so bad. Maybe the increased performance will gain the LS some respect. Inded it is a shame to see a car go from RWD to FWD, but such is life in these times of incapable drivers in incliment weather.
And PS - HOLY shiznit a 4.4 is a big engine to be mounted transversely! That's only .2 away from our beloved 4.6!
Now to turn that 4.4 longitudinally and hook it up to a T-56 and stuff it in a Fox body....Muhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
thats another one of Chucks useless engine swap ideas...
Ugh, you and your worthless engines and questionable cars, Chuck. :rolleyes:
Here's hoping Ford gets enough flak/feedback from the auto shows and dealerships to rethink their FWD plans. It's incomprehensible to understand why they would abandon the cash cow that is the Crown Vic/GM/Town Car. Limo and cab drivers especially will really be pissed. Then again, they can just migrate over to the new Caddys. So much for Ford locking up those markets.
Electronics in vehicles are at the point now where it's next to impossible to drop just the motor into another vehicle, and get it to function correctly without major issues. The days of experimentation have gotten a lot tougher. Unless companies keep making ECM/PCU electronic bridges, some powertrain swaps will never happen. Which makes the SEFI 5.0 swap that much easier.
It was more of a joke...but I bet some stand-alones can cope with the issues. Some engines are too complicated with variable electronic valve timing and the like, but those that aren't should/could be able to be handled.
It's kind of sad they're switching the LS to FWD though. Now it will just be a rebadged 500....yuck. The Vic platform was dated, but at least it was RWD.
Sorry Eric..no 5.0 for me.... :p
Maybe the concept Zephyr is the new LS.... :dunno:
This is Ford Motor Company we are talking about not mitsubishi who Damiler/Benz owns half of now, Dodge cant stand up on its own so it out sources to Mitsubishi for alot of thier passenger cars. Ford is not in that state Of decline, I dont see thier affixment with yamaha is. And i have ridden in a 92 Taurus SHO and still BOOO to yamaha . The engines are a bitch to work on and it just dosent belong.
I guess 5.0 is the end-all, be-all of engines. Stupid Ford for trying something different. For the record that's only the THIRD yamaha engine ever put into a Ford, so I'd hardly call it an "affixment". See how many Mazda engines are in Ford's then start talking.
You talk out your a$$ sometimes.
Yep, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, etc. etc. You would be surprised. :grinno:
well, i guess since ford is so badass, they shouldnt have the new thunderbird on a jaguar platform, with a jaguar engine, they should have never deal with Mazda, Aston Martin, Volvo, none of it, they rock so much that they should be Ford only, and use Ford parts and technology
so i guess we should be using borg-warner T5's, Tremec trannies, any Bosch parts, no parts form Canada seeing as Ford is "all american", we should convert all of the nuts and bolts to our "american only" measurment system, throw away the turbo coupe since it uses Garret and IHI turbos, Tokoico shocks and struts, even ditch the fox front suspension since its kinda similar to f-body front suspension
bring back the carbed 289 and all will be well!! L/\/\A0!!11
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Is it time to play "America, F*** Yeah!" from that Team America movie? heh
And, d00d.. you're way off on that 289 thing.
Bring back the FE. :p
This is one hillarious thread. The LS goes from a Jaguar to a Volvo, and people complain about a Yamaha lump. :grinno:
Yamaha = teh win. That is all.
teh yahmeha cAn neva l0se
just an adaptation from your normal line about the cat. hehehe
I have a 93 SHO and I find it difficult to keep my foot out of the gas. It is very fast for a grocery getter. They are high maintenance vehicles. I don't understand why Ford doesn't make their own high performance V6 engine, but I guess there is a lot of research and infastructure that goes into it and it must have made sense to contract it out to Yamaha. Maybe someone here can shed light on that. Things often change faster than we want it to. That's why Im hanging onto my bird for dear life.
Cool already have one from a '68 Cougar out in the garage!!!
Either way I'm ready.. Got a couple of 428s out in the garage as well. Guess I better go get the 352 FE a guy was tryin to give me yesterday...(no not 351).
Don't laugh... I hear Ford Racing has a new 427 FE in their '05 catalogue.
This motor and chassis is already out: go drive a V8 powered Volvo SUV at your friendly dealer to see what the Lincoln will be. The Zephyr will be out in a few months, it will replace the V6 LS. In the meantime we will still have the V8 model, might be a collectors item since it might be the last good Lincoln.
Oh, and this new V8 they are talking about is a bored/stroked version of the V8 used in the last Taurus SHO. So its not new by any stretch of the imagination.
I have a yahmaha motorcycle and lots of yahmaha sound things like piano and sound cards and stuff. I cant say that I have owned a yamaha tarus, but that motorcycle being a 1982 virago 750cc road bike with a bad clutch, I still can beat some bullet bikes in 0-60 of about 3 secs. Not bad for a 20+ year old motorcycle that sat in my back yard for almost 15 years. with a jump it started right up
Lincoln = Acura. Get used to it. FoMoCo will not chase Caddy, BMW, Lexus, Infiniti or M-B with the Lincoln lineup because they have Jag and Volvo to compete in that arena. Lincoln will be positioned in the same segment as Acura, the "entry level luxury" segment. The Acura TL is an expensive Accord, and the LS will become an expensive 500. The next generation Aviator will be a car-based SUV much like the Acura MDX. It's the direction Lincoln is heading, mark my words.
I didn't think Yamaha designed that engine. I thought it was Ford's extrapolation on the 3.0 and 3.2 V-6's. Maybe with all the problems the 3.4's had, they kicked it back to Yamaha to fix whatever they had done wrong.
I could be mistaken though...
The 3.4 was based on the 2.5L duratec V6, nothing related to the old vulcan based 3.0/3.2. Yamaha massaged the heads, intake and did the engineering to make a V8 from a V6, IIRC. I could be wrong too. :)
http://www.v8sho.com
hrmmmm. Looks like they'll be just down the street from me at their hotels during their convention....