I put about 60 miles behind the wheel of an '07 Shelby GT500 last Saturday and as fun as it was, I would like to do the same in one of these. :evilgrin:
Brent
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SHELBY AUTOS AND FORD RACING TO BUILD 600+ HP STREET LEGAL SHELBY GT500 “SUPER SNAKES
Las Vegas – April 27, 2007 – Shelby Automobiles will use newly-developed Ford Racing GT500 performance packs to help transform a limited number of 2007 and 2008 Ford Shelby GT500’s into fire breathing “Super Snake” coupes. The Super Snake post-title package will include enhancements to the Ford Shelby GT500’s handling, styling and power; tuning options will range from a warranted 600 HP V8 to over 725 HP (unwarranted). Only a limited number of Super Snakes will be built per model year at the Shelby Automobiles facility in Las Vegas beginning in late 2007.
Note: Amy Boylan, Shelby President, is actively posting in this forum answering questions.
“My team at Shelby Automobiles is always working on new ways to build better performing cars” said Carroll Shelby. “I told them that I wanted to build a vehicle that could blow the doors off of most anything on the planet. By partnering with Ford Racing, we’re giving enthusiasts a Mustang with that level of performance.”
Working together at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway and in Dearborn, Ford Racing and Team Shelby developed the aggressive suspension and engine package specifically for the car.
“Mustang enthusiasts are demanding more from both Ford Racing and Shelby Autos” said Jamie Allison, Manager of Ford Racing Performance Group. “The GT500 Super Snake package, with its higher horsepower levels and balanced track-inspired tuning, satisfies those demands and then some … in a uniquely Ford – Shelby way.”
In 1967, Shelby American built one 427-powered GT500 “Super Snake” for Mel Burns Ford. Carroll Shelby drove it at the Goodyear test track for tire promotion film production. That car reached lap speeds of over 150 mph and a top speed of 170 mph. The new Ford Shelby GT500 Super Snake will be equally potent.
“The name ‘Super Snake’ is legendary because the one that Shelby built was the pinnacle of muscle cars in 1967,” added Amy Boylan, president of Shelby Automobiles. “We’re bringing that concept forward 40 years for customers who own a Ford Shelby GT500. We’ll give their car amazing new capabilities.”
Ford Racing and Team Shelby developed the GT500 Super Snake package which will include:
• Ford Racing Supercharger upgrade kit (SuperPack 600) producing over 600 horsepower and 590 ft.-lbs. of torque
• 6-speed manual transmission with 3.73:1 rear axle ratio
• Ford Racing performance exhaust system
• Ford Racing Handling Pack offering unique performance suspension tuning including Dynamic adjustable dampers, lowering springs, tuned stabilizer bars, and front strut tower brace
• Shelby-designed Alcoa 20-inch wheels
• Ford Racing short-throw shifter
• Baer 6 piston brakes with Shelby cast calipers and larger rotors
• Front brake cooling ducts
• Unique carbon composite hood featuring classic Shelby design
• ‘Shelby’ lettering across the front edge of hood and rear decklid
• 'Super Snake' vehicle badging
• Carroll Shelby signature embroidered headrests and floor mats, and other Shelby designed components
• Official Shelby CSM dash plate
In addition, while the full Super Snake package will be available exclusively through Shelby Automobiles, many of the products comprising the Super Snake package will be available from Shelby Automobiles and Ford Racing starting in June.
Everyone stand back and watch as the Shelby name systematically makes itself worthless.
how bout some weight loss?
id still drive it.
Worthless? How so?
At any rate, those cars will be so ridiculously priced (due to markups) that everyone will bitch and moan.
I'm just curious, why would you say that?
Even die-hard fans (myself included) are getting completely sick of seing the name every time you turn around. This is the second 'Special Edition Shelby' this week! Seriously, they just debuted the Red Stripe at the Shanghai Motor Show. He sells 'Appearance Packages' for V6 and all other Mustangs, which means he's ricing up cars now for a fee. What's next, the Shelby New Holland GT7050?
There is now nothing special about a Shelby.
Well, I hate to tell you this, Dude, but much like Roush and Saleen and a host of others, that's one of the things Shelby does and is famous for.
Maybe you'd prefer he does another K-car package?
He did ONE K-car. Try and rattle off how many Special Shelbey's he's made just in the past twelve months. He shut down every Tom Dick and Harry that sold anything with a snake on it, then flooded the market on his own.
Don't get me wrong. I like the Shelbys of the day, and even liked the new ones when they first came out (the KR looks nice too.......... and looks are pretty much the only difference, just like in the 60's). I just don't know why they have to make a press release every time the old man farts, then dedicate the skid mark as a new limited edition model Mustang. "We'll call this one the Red Stripe!"
To compare, the C6 is three years old and this is the first time we see any major change to the car. There's a press release on the updates that are happening to the base model (no special edition, so no special price) with no fanfare whatsoever, and the car is getting a brand new motor!
I'd call a 600+ horse Mustang newsworthy. Shelby might be whoring his name, but if that means performance cars who are we to complain?
Of course, some of the Shelby Mustangs are questionable, such as the Shelby GT ($35k for a Mustang GT with $2500 worth of bolt-ons and a Shelby sticker???)
As for the Dodge Shelby's (Shelbies?) they might not be much today, but in the 80's they were quite respectable. Didn't some Shelby Dodge's make somewhere around 210 horses?
Like I said, I like some Shelby's. The GT-500, sure. The Super Snake, sure, because of the boost in power.
The GT-H? The GT-H Vert. (seperate press releases)? The 500K.R. with no changes other than looks? The Red Stripe? The CS6 (If you want a Shelby, why are you buying a V6?)? The WCC (West Coast Customs............ isn't that what Shelby does to begin with? He needs the ride pimpers to help him out?)? The 40th Anny. GT500? And, as Carmen said, the Shelby GT? These are all wastes of the name that used to have a certain rarity to it.
I'm not just bitching to bitch. I think he's shooting himself in the foot, and his name will be worth squat (compared to what it used to mean) when it's all said and done.
He's shut down everyone selling that snake emblem because it's a registered trade mark. HIS registered trademark. Carroll Shelby doesn't want every Tom, Dick, and Harry using his trademark to make cheap to sell as genuine when it's not. That's what ruins someone's name.
As for the C-6, look up Calloway ( callowaycars.com ) or Zip ( zip-corvette.com ) or dozen others. They do the same thing with the Vette that Shelby and Roush do with the Mustang and AMG does with mercedes. And they have several levels of tuning available, same as Shelby. That's just good sense. That's why Ford offers several different performance levels in the mustang themselves.
I can guarantee you Calloway will shut down anyone using his trademarks on their product as as will AMG and anyone else with any kind of reputation. On the other hand if a company doesn't have a good reputation, no one wants to use their tademarks.
My opinion still stands that his reputation is thinning every time he sells an identical car as a new model. You look at the old Shelbys. Every one of them legendary. No one will say that about the Shelby GT, or most other ones I mentioned above. In twenty years saying "It's a Shelby" will mean as much as saying "It's an HO."
I think oldraven has a point. It does seem like the name is starting to lose its aura and rarity. And sure, different levels of tuning are fine...but a V6? I dont even like regular Mustangs with V6s (if youre gonna buy a muscle car, buy a MUSCLE CAR, dammit!). But to each his own.
Im sure he did the tractor as a joke, i dont really care it seems that the horse power wars may be heating back up at least between chevy and ford. Anything that gives the HP wars a kick in the ass as limited as it may be is a friend to me.
Yea, placing your name on limited production 600-725hp mustangs = complete deterioration of the Shelby name.
Oh yea...
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itz a shellbi yo...
The 600+hp cars aren't the problem. But if you had actually read any of my posts you'd have picked up on that. It's also getting really annoying that you can't say boo against the almighty Carol Shelby without tieing yourself to a smoking stake. The guy is falible (see above). Trust me, I knew the dangers of what I was saying, but the guy is going overkill.
Compare apples to apples. Take a look at a Ford Mustang GT from '66 and compare it to the GT350H rental from the same year. Now make the same comparison with today's cars. What's the difference? It just seems like he's lost the mission.
btw, those K-Shelby's were killer fast compared to the stock Chryslers.
Everything in moderation, folks. ;)
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As for Reeves Calloway, how many cars does he produce at any given time? I think the max has only ever been two. Usually coupe and convertible. After that it's just options.
The same for Hennessey. All of his different nameplates are for different levels of output. You don't see a Calloway, Lingenfelter, or Hennessey dedicated to a new stripe colour.
Didn't that already happen with the 318 Dakota's and Shelby Minivans in the 80's????
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At least the dakota had a V8 :evilgrin:
i want one of those 318 dakotas, i know wheres theres a MINT one, the guys a retard, wants 10k for it. i told him hes NUTS. Nice truck though, quick as shiznit!
well compared to the v6 dakota my dad has, thats 318 GOES. Its a light quick truck, hell the 318 in it self is a quick motor, my moms jeep has one, i have to watch myself driving lol i like to sink my foot in it to much. Now the jeep pulls ahrder then the dakota, and the dakota has nothing on my lincoln, but is quick for what it is that better?
I agree with oldraven except I feel the "Shelby" name has been tainted for a long, LONG time. 107 HP carb'd non-turbo Omni's are not performance cars. He also made thousands and thousands of each model. There are very few Shelby's that are "rare" and most of those are real race cars, not his street stuff sold to John Q. Public. Do some reading:
http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldodg.htm
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97283
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Omni#GLH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Shelby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_American_vehicles
There's also Shelby grilling spices, a Shelby boat, Shelby wheels for Audi's in the 80's, etc, etc.
I also feel Ford has gone wayyyy overboard on the stickered up Mustangs. The GT-CS and Shelby GT are jokes that exist purely for profit. Why pay $35K for a 325HP Mustang when for $5K less you can have a 400HP GTO with an extra gear, IRS, and 90 more Ft/Lbs?? The "aftermarket" Mustang guys are even worse. The Parnelli Jones Mustang for $65K (Only 400HP) is the worst!!
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/popups/ford_shelby/frameset.1.exclude.html (http://"http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/popups/ford_shelby/frameset.1.exclude.html")
ummm..... i can see how ridiculous it is getting now too.
Haven't you heard? Shelby's the new SVT.
At $100k each, I'd
bet they'll be selling in limited numbers
It's rather obvious that both Ford and Carroll Shelby are trying to milk every last cent from his name before he kicks off. This "partnership" is much to the benefit of Shelby while he's still alive. Once he's gone, Ford can tout the nostalgia aspect for many, many years. From a marketing point of view it's a win-win situation. But that's the key word, isn't it..."marketing". We can thank that ass-goblin J Mays for that. He's got his head so far up Shelby's backside that he'll probably never see daylight again.
Ol' CS doesn't help things, either, that cranky old fart. It's one thing to reminisce about the past. It's another to never stop reminding people of things you did 40 years ago. This dude has no modesty, no humility whatsoever. I also find it extremely amusing that he went after the AC Cobra replica companies only after they started becoming successful and essentially beating CS at his own game. Oh that's right, he doesn't like to lose, so he's going to sue. Pffft. Factory Five FTW!!!!eleven!!1!1!
BTW, there's a guy here in town that has an '06 California Special AND just bought an '07 GT 500 coupe. Now that he saw the GT 500KR, though, he's offing the California Special to his brother and will make room for the KR, if conditions permit. It's hook, line and sinker for Shelbys now. Then again, being that it's the only muscle car available new, I suppose to him it doesn't matter whose name is on the car. And it's not like I'm not going to ask for a ride in them or anything. ;)
I paid $26,255 for my 2005 Mustang GT.
Add: $450 Jba Headers
$550 Intake, computer tuner and tune
$279 Lower control arms
$379 Stainless steel ler kit. VERY LOW 13 second car.
Now add $4,500 for the supercharger and I'm deep in the 12's.
The Shelby GT STARTS at $36,000+ for what is essentially my car plus $2600 in performance parts and $2000 (I'm being generous) in body glitter for cars. I like my way better. I believe I have about $4,000 left over......That's enough for a REALLY beefed up AOD and a slightly used centrifigal supercharger for the Cougar.
One thing I do like is the hood on the Shelby GT-H, but that's $800 in bare primer without paint!
John paid $31,900 out the door (tax, tag, title included) for his 2005 GTO. Ran 13.34@108 dead stock down to the paper air filter.
I like what you did too though, regular GT, mod as seen fit. Screw Shelby and mark-ups.
it least they do something to the cars themselves. all CS does is rub his old man balls on the car and call it a shelby. its a joke. my uncle argues with me to to the last breath that the gt500 is "all shelby". he takes them from ford and mods them and refuses to listen. theres NOTHING shelby about them. they are all ford parts bin cars. the name shelby does nothing for me at all. i agree with eric as well...the dude has no frickin shame.
I've seen a couple of the Shelby Dakotas, I forgot about them. Last one I saw was selling for some stupid amount, even though it looked like a sticker & wheel job at most...
:dunno:
There's so many different Mustang names I can't keep up with them anymore. All these different titles and they ditched the sweetest one. Cobra. When will they learn to leave names alone... They'll probably resurrect the Thunderbird name for a Hybrid Minivan.
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner! That's EXACTLY what 99.9% of "Shelby's" are.
Of course Roush is worse, he doen't do anything but release his name on the car, his workers design and slap on a bodykit, and they call it double price.
They have all sold out at one point or another. Roush built a FWD Cougar. Shelby built god knows how many limited edition vehicles.
If anything I would like to see a come back of the dealer back vehicels. I.E. Tasca Ford, Grandspalding Dodge, Yenko, ......
Any if they make another limited production car they need to make the Parnelli Jones Mustang.
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Anyone got the specs on the FWD Roush Cougars, because i have heard of them and seen them but cant find the specs.
There is a Saleen Focus, but I don't know anything about the Cougars.
Saleen DID build the PJ Mustang, it's a rip-off. $55K BASE price for a 400HP sticker job that has a stroker just to say 302 on the fenders. Don't get me wrong, I like the car, but FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!?!?!??!!
I completely agree but it is a different twist on the Mustang. It give tribute to where it is due. Unlike most of the other limited edition cars. The price tag on any new car is just crazy.
I drove a new 07 Cobalt as a loaner. The only option it had was a CD player. It had manuel mirrors, seats, windows, locks, no ABS. It was a stripper model the sticker was $15,000. IMO nothing with that few options is worth that.
The guys gona die soon... Let him have his fun.
hell if i had all the cars he has in his "stash" Id be having fun!
Your paying for a name most times. Maybe some wheels and stickers. I'd like a new " Shelby GT500", but I'm not going to wet my pants just because it's a Shelby. I want it because of the car, not the name. Thats what matters to me IMO
Well the only reason i ask here is because i am signed up with a forum for the newer cats but when i introduced myself all i got were comments like this.
"All you need is lowering springs,black wheels with polished lip, and a kit"
thats when i decided that team neco was a bad choice.
The reason i am asking for the specs for the Roush is i want to make a replica out of my 99 once im clear of debt.
And sorry for thread jacking.
I'll ask the other members of the local Shelby Club what they think at the meeting this month...
As requested...1999 Roush Cougar Stage 2 specs, straight from the brochure:
CORE COMPONENTS
Side Skirts • Front Fascia (includes Fog Light Inserts) • Rear Wing • Rear Valance with Polished Stainless Steel Exhaust Tip • Floor Mats (with Embroidered Roush Logo) • Window Banners & Decals • Roush Suspension System (includes Performance Springs and Rear Sway Bar) • Tuner Alloy Wheels • Performance Rated Tires
OPTIONAL COMPONENTS
Dual Polished Stainless Steel Free-Flow Exhaust Tips • Interior Trim Kit • Roush CNC Billet Machined Pedals
The interior trim kit was a simulated grey carbon fiber. The standard polished exhaust tip had the Roush logo engraved on the top; I understand the earlier ones had a different logo than the later ones. I believe one could get any '99 Cougar color in the Roush package. Most of the parts are still available directly from Roush to build your own.
More info at http://www.roushperf.com
So the Roush PERFORMANCE Cougar had no PERFORMANCE items?? 150 Lbs worth of JC Whitney add-on stuff and only a set of LOWERING springs and a swaybar? That's lame. Seriously lame.
Then again the 84 Shelby Charger had a 107HP n/a 2.2L 4-banger in a FWD that wouldn't beat my truck down a 1/4 mile. At least it's springs were stiffer instead of just shorter!
There is a new edge cat at my JY that looks ALOT different. What do these Roush cats look like? I'll see if I can snag a pic.
The problem is with half of the cars he's selling all you are getting is the name, not the car. You pay for it to say Shelby on the side, not have any Shelby under the hood.
Ahh let's not forget how dealerships destroyed the ELIMINATOR heritage with the new edge Cougars.....$7000 markup on those as well.
Well, what about the SLP Ranger? It was a body kit and wheels and that's IT. Maybe an exhaust.
This from the same place that made the SLP Firehawks which were what, 400+ hp or whatever it was?
I have not seen any elim new edge, well since the "roush" package was nothing more than a body kit and some tips i thik i will stick with my original idea of some SVT intakes and an SVT S/c.
Thanks for the specs eric.
LOL! not going to happen.
Keep thinking that. And AMC will live forever........ in our hearts.
When will there be a Shelby FalconCougarThunderMarquis?
Don't you mean a Shelby GT500KR/H/CS Limited Thundecougarfalconbird.
Theres a Name that Chrysler could bring back. Donahue. Why don't they???