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Title: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 11:41:29 AM
I want this NOW!

http://www.kuecker.net/downloads/Videos/TopGear_ArielAtom.wmv

:eek:




:cheers:
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: V8Demon on January 21, 2005, 12:05:08 PM
300 Hp 1200 LBS    Nice.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 21, 2005, 12:14:05 PM
Nice little death trap........where cani sign up for one?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 12:15:51 PM
Who would have thought a Civic engine could rip a guys face off.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 21, 2005, 01:32:41 PM
that thing is sick...and any car guy wouldnt be able to leave it stock...
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 02:03:03 PM
Like I said, 300hp Supercharged Civic engine. I don't think you could possibly squeeze any more out of it, short of spray it. Besides that, everything on there is pretty much race spec. I don't think upgrades are really an option.

(http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/front/fornt.jpg)
(http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/side/side.jpg)
(http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/rear/rear.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: nirvanagod on January 21, 2005, 02:29:03 PM
After cleaning up the mess :grinno: i'm ordering like 10  :evilgrin:  :evilgrin:  :evilgrin:  :evilgrin:  Holy  is all I have to say.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: baxo on January 21, 2005, 02:33:16 PM
I want it.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Nate on January 21, 2005, 02:39:19 PM
OMG... i'd take that over my girlfriend lol, think she's got some compition :p
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 21, 2005, 03:10:43 PM
Well thats where your wrong Old raven i think that any one of us if 1. we had the money to buy it and 2. Had the money to have it retro fitted with a newer better engine like say maybe a smaller ford v8 like a 3.4 that they used in the 95 and up SHO's.

There is your body the 4 rails that span the body enlongate them and shove a small block v8 in there have the thing reblue printed and balanced and you have your self an insanley fast car......gokart.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Ifixyawata on January 21, 2005, 03:26:31 PM
EIther of those engines (by the way the 3.4 SHO V8 was a 96+ item) are both much more heavy and would throw off the weight balance.  Good luck getting it to fit in the space the honda engine takes up, too.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 21, 2005, 03:30:09 PM
Thats where the Rebalencing would come into effect and like i said you would have to enlongate the frame......its jobless improvising, i have nothing better to do so i look at it and try to make it better. :dunno:
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 03:49:27 PM
It already IS insanely fast. Faster than anything any of us will drive, at any rate. And with the amount of engineering that went into this thing to get it to accellerate, brake, and handle the way it does, it would be a mistake to mess around with it. Why do you need a V8 that doesn't even make 300hp (235hp, actually) but weighs a lot more than the Honda and takes up more space? It's designed to run with a small motor with massive hp/L. You'd throw out a power to weight ratio that took some serious automotive R&D to perfect, and also ruin the weight distribution and make it handle far worse.

Sorry man, in this case, V8 is not the almighty answer.

It beat a CBR600RR on the track by four seconds, and is second only to the Enzo. After two minutes in that thing, I guarantee you would be wholey satisfied. 0-62 in 2.9. :ies:
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: V8Demon on January 21, 2005, 03:57:09 PM
The trick would be to not change the motor, but to somehow make it even lighter.  I'm sure at that weight 100 lbs would probably be worth more than a 1/10th.  Perhaps a little more boost if thats even plausible.  That motor is probably real close to it's pain threshold already
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 04:08:17 PM
I know you can pull more out of a Honda than that, but not without tossing reliability out the window. This thing will rip everything on the street a new arsehole every day, for years. I love that.

I think the only thing I'd do is at some sort of wind deflector. There must be a lot of drag. If his face is doing that, Imagine what the seats are doing at that speed. Nothing big, but to at least be able to breathe when you're driving at speed.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: 88FoxBird on January 21, 2005, 04:11:01 PM
OMFG, This thing is insanely fast. I want one. Now. Dammit I dont have one, oh well, wheres my drool bucket. This is now on the top of my list of cars I would love to own.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 21, 2005, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o
Thats where the Rebalencing would come into effect and like i said you would have to enlongate the frame......its jobless improvising, i have nothing better to do so i look at it and try to make it better. :dunno:

theres no way to "elongate" the chassis to make the balance better, elongating the chassis is going to really hurt handling, also think about how much more a V8 weight than a honda engine

i dont care if this is a ford board, if you think ford is better than anything to roll on this earth, the honda engine is better in this application
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 21, 2005, 04:17:33 PM
also, you could intercool the thing, and add maybe 3-4 more psi, and the thing would FLY, boosting power to probably up to 350hp, that little gain would be insane in that little thing
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 21, 2005, 04:44:50 PM
They've also got the Deronda F400 over there. Not quite as fast, with 210hp and 225ft/lbs from a 1.8T Audi DOHC 4. Still 0-60 in under 4, but they're also working on a 300hp version to come. 100mph in well under 10 seconds is impressive. Turbo spools from 2000-6600rpm, so lag and surge wouldn't really be all that big of an issue either.

(http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/8936-104323-3.jpg)
(http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/8936-104323-5.jpg)
(http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/8936-104323-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Cougar8775 on January 21, 2005, 04:51:41 PM
{quote}It already IS insanely fast. Faster than anything any of us will drive, at any rate. {quote}


well i must be the only insane one who would rip that around a track at top speed :evilgrin:  but that would be a fun toy to have. my gf would tell me not to drive it cuz she would herself. :brick: but there is a passenger seat :evilgrin:
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: lostbrew on January 21, 2005, 05:11:16 PM
:slap: yeah of course hun but than again we ould probably have 2 to race them side by side and see who can beat the other one.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Cougar8775 on January 21, 2005, 05:26:28 PM
hummmmm where can i get that kind of money. yeah babe of corse but we all know i can drive the wheels off of anything :evilgrin:  and i wouldn't take the fast gocart over u
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: lostbrew on January 21, 2005, 05:28:57 PM
if you did i would  :slap: and laugh. another thing about that clip i just wish once that you saw a bug or fly, fly into his mouth and watch him try and get it out.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Cougar8775 on January 21, 2005, 05:30:07 PM
that would be hilarrious :giggle:
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 21, 2005, 05:56:31 PM
TeEhEe k3\/\/L13$ l0l l/\/\A0
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Cougar8775 on January 21, 2005, 06:10:03 PM
TeEhEe k3\/\/L13$ l0l l/\/\A0


huh???
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Haystack on January 21, 2005, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: Cougar8775
TeEhEe k3\/\/L13$ l0l l/\/\A0


huh???

teehee kewl something lmao
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: MDJ1281 on January 21, 2005, 08:46:29 PM
Quote
The trick would be to not change the motor, but to somehow make it even lighter. I'm sure at that weight 100 lbs would probably be worth more than a 1/10th. Perhaps a little more boost if thats even plausible. That motor is probably real close to it's pain threshold already

Lighter and faster in a Honda... stickers!!!!

Quote
I think the only thing I'd do is at some sort of wind deflector.

you cant... the thing behind the head is an air intake. You'd be robbing the motor of some air.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: nirvanagod on January 21, 2005, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: MDJ1281
you cant... the thing behind the head is an air intake. You'd be robbing the motor of some air.


 I think if the R&D worked at it they could make something that wouldn't really cause interference. Perhaps even improve the flow.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: MexCougar on January 21, 2005, 10:35:19 PM
i  prefer to end my life in a Suzuki Hayabusa than this go-kart. Is very fast, of course...........

(http://usuarios.lycos.es/racingtrykes/almacen/cat3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: oldraven on January 23, 2005, 12:06:52 AM
Raise the snorkel a few more inches and I'm sure it'll work out.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Rwolf on January 23, 2005, 12:31:39 AM
Throw a Lexan Body over it and it'll be like a R/C car with interchangeably body styles! But I think it would collapse at the intense high speeds :P
Title: Re: The Ultimate Toy.
Post by: Nate on January 24, 2005, 02:51:59 AM
just add a front and rear spoiler to give you some more controll at speeds