http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/30/new-york-preview-2008-shelby-gt500kr-the-king-of-the-road-re/
I LOVE IT!!
Id like to see the camaro take that!
Man, that is the most awesome looking, most powerful, and most desireable Mustang that I will never, ever be able to afford even when it is 15 years old.
Cool ride. :D
So would I. :)
That's a pretty silly comment to make, seeing how the base Camaro hasn't even hit the streets yet. Historically speaking, the odds are against the KR.
That aside, I hope they both go like stink, and that the sale of Chrysler doesn't axe the Challenger. This is easilly the best looking of the new Mustangs. I'm just wondering if KR will mean anything this time around, or if they're just pulling another marketing ploy.
I still really like the Shelby GT. I'm not sure it's worth the price bump over a regular GT though. I'm also not sure this is worth the price bump over a GT500, but I like it.
Strange as this may seem, we (as Ford fans) need the Camaro and Challenger.
Competition improves the breed.
Competition is fun.
The more hot rods that are built now, the more 10-15 year old "used-up" cars we will get to play with in the future.;)
What you talking about???
And whoever said Shelby GT higher then a GT500, you're off. Mustang hierarchy is:
Shelby GT500KR - 540HP 5.4 DOHC 4V Blown
Shelby GT500 - 500HP 5.4 DOHC Blown
Shelby GT - 325HP 4.6 SOHC 3V
GT-CS - 300HP 4.6 SOHC 3V
GT - 300HP 4.6 SOHC 3V
V6 - 225HP 4.0 ???
The "aftermarket" guys are all OVER the place. My personal favorite is the "handbuilt" Saleen Parnelli Jones Boss 302. $50,000 for 400HP, 390FtLbs. 06 GTO, 400HP, 400FtLbs for $28,000. ;)
i hope the camaro flops it BUTT UGLY, the challenger on the other hand I LOVE, it looks like a challenger, and its not a disappointment like the wanna be charger!
I assume you mean me since I didn't see anyone else mention the Shelby GT. I'm fully aware of the Mustang hierchy and if you carefully read what I said you will see that I mention that I am not sure the Shelby GT is worth the premium (~$7000ish if I recall) over a regular Mustang GT. I also said I'm not sure the GT500KR will be worth the extra money over a "regular" GT500. Styling/Performance wise I prefer it, but is it worth the extra $$?
I thought that the SVT team was dissolved.
Beautiful car tho.
Yes, the Challenger looks like a "real" Challenger. I like it.
The Camaro I feel is a bit too aggressive. Kind-of reminds me of GM's approach on the "Cat-Eye" headlights of the 03-06 Chevy Pickups. Goofy, and a passing fad. (much like directional wheels...remember that goofy fad?)
The Camaro has too many sharp edges about it's styling. I would find it hard to believe GM could build a base V-8 Camaro for less than $ 29.995.00. We will see.
Wake up and smell the stale auto news. Mercedes has had Chrysler on the table for nearly a month now. It was almost a Chinese owned automaker, and it may just end up Canadian. GM made an offer, and half the world wanted the brand all of a sudden.
(and in case you missed the similar news about Ford, FoMoCo bought Rover, of all things; not Land Rover, just Rover; but sold Aston Martin)
Not impressed.
I'm with Aerobird, give me a PJ Saleen.
And Daboss, I agree. Chevy flooped the styling of the Camero but that Challenger looks pretty sharp!
Bryan
I knew about the Ford/Rover/Aston Martin deal. I had not heard about ma Daimler dumping the "company of equals" Chrysler though...
SSX,
Sorry, sounded like what you originally said was the Shelby GT had a premium over the GT and over the GT500. I didn't "read in" the KR being the premo over the 500. If you think that's confusing, try the aftermarket ones!
I *STILL* don't get all the Camaro/Challenger/whatever talk. None of those are built yet, so they DON'T exist!! Let's talk about the musclecars that ARE here! Super Bee SRT8 Charger, Charger Daytona, GT500, GTO (3,000 06's left in inventory), GT-CS, etc, etc.
im just saying the idea that the camaro is gonna look like the models they have i hope it flops, the challenger looks dead shagy, and you consider that god awful ugly charger a muscle car? Its a disgrace to the charger name! i will say they are ok quick, and some sound pretty good, other then that id rather have say a srt8 300c, that is a slick looking 4 door
I'll give you the nose. The Camaro needs something other than that S**t-eating-grin grille, but the rest of the car has perfect proportions, and looks deadly. I can't understand why they put a big smiley face on the snout. That's not retro (and the Cat-eyes are ugly too. Chevy hasn't made a good looking truck since '87).
DaBoss: After the Omni-based Chargers of the 80's nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could disgrace the Charger name. So it's got four doors - so what? It's got a V8, it's RWD, and it's cheap. And given Chrysler's legendary resale values, we'll all be able to buy one in five years for $500 :p The same pretty much applies to the Challenger - this is a name that was once applied to a Mitsubishi. Of course Ford tainted the Mustang name with the 74-78 Pintang - about the only one of these cars that has never been ized was the Camaro. Sure, it had some dismal performance years, but when compared to other cars year-for-year it stayed true to its roots for its entire production run. Never an economy car, never a FWD econopoopster, never a re-branded import. Always a Camaro.
I actually like the forthcoming Camaro and Challenger. They are nice looking cars promising very good performance and showing their heritage. Funny, though, how the Chev guys that shiznit all over Ford for going retro with the Mustang are drooling all over the every-bit-as-retro Camaro. It'll be interesting to see where the Camaro compares price-wise, though, with its IRS. The Challenger has the advantage of being built on an already mass produced platform, while the Mustang brings a stick axle to the table. The Camaro's platform will eventually be spread across a few models, but upfront it will be at a big price disadvantage. Of course both GM and DC have the advantage of cheaper-to-manufacture pushrod engines, but the 4.6 is produced in huge numbers (trucks, SUV's, Crown Vics, Mustangs) which bring its cost per unit down a whole bunch.
Whatever happens, the next few years look to be exciting for car guys. 4-cylinders are making more power than V8's did just a decade ago, V6's are generating 250-300 horsepower in mainstream family cars, and V8's are making more power than the legendary big blocks of the so-called muscle car era. And they're doing it with squeaky-clean tailpipe emissions, decent fuel economy, and a full load of creature comforts. THIS is the golden age of muscle cars
No, it's probably not worth it. But due to two factors.
1) "Only 1,000 of these special Mustangs will be built,"
and
2) The American people are gluttons for status and impracticality.
They will ALL sell!
they need to take the first camaro concept nose and graft it on the second body and it will be bad ass, untill then i HATE IT, and someone needs to show me a omni charger, cause i know of the omni. the "Pintang" may have tainted the mustang, but at least it kept it alive, the camaro was stoped, the charger was stoped, the gto and challenger were stoped, but the mustang has kept on trucking. And i agree todays cars are the best muscle cars, but i would still much rather have an original, or an original with a new drive train, like the 65 fast back with a 03 cobra chassis and interior!
And at a price substantially higher than MSRP, I'd bet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_(L-body)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_%28L-body%29
Fixed :P
o yea i forgot about those theres a shelby charger near my house. at least they were 2 doors BLAH
Yeah!,
One of My friend moved since 1987 was have a GT500 KR, almost new and completely dissassembled in his garage, a fresh 428 SCJ original, ect, ect, his when moved solded the car around 30.000$ disassembled, I was see a pics of the car taken in 1976 when It on the road, and it was beautiful, orange with semi gloss stripes...
The "KR" is King of the Road", I guess it was a real king of the road...
Regards,
Dom
no one can do anything to make me like the new mustangs.
...and i personally love the k-car based chargers.
i feel that chevy's over the top aggressivness is going to atract a lot of buyers. look at the 350z, its agressive, respectable performance wise, and HERITAGE. the camaro has HUGE heritage. the camaro took center stage with the 350 small block so its not only heritage, midlife crisis, and the 350 heritage. its not ganna flop. its ganna give ford such a run for its money that i think the mustang is ganna start gettin better and better along with chevy. even the after market will be vast body wise. hell i bet those puppiesanese drifters comin in through cali would drifter-i'se it in a heartbeat so throw in body kits of different styles in the stewing pot, god forbid if a Bosozoku member gets one. (google that) on top of chevy's response to return of the best ford block ever, the original 302, chevy is owning ford.
regie jackson commissioned Warren “The Professor” Johnso and GM performance parts already built the best 454 possible. its cast iron, but its a small block based on the LS7 ZO6 (rumored z07) corvette. well here this explains it best http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Racing/reggie_jackson.jsp (http://"http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Racing/reggie_jackson.jsp")
trash talk the headlights all you want, it's comin. (im bread chevy driving a ford. it taught me respect)
Amen i love them as well i also would not mind an omni GLH.