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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: cougrrr302 on March 28, 2007, 12:06:37 AM

Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: cougrrr302 on March 28, 2007, 12:06:37 AM
I have an 84 Cougar. 5.0 CFI. Kingcars and I were discussing the HO conversion. What exactly would my CFI engine take to do the HO conversion apposed to the "newer" SO EFI engines?
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: Ifixyawata on March 28, 2007, 01:44:55 AM
You'll probably need all the stuff I just bought from vinnietbird as I'm doing the same thing, sort of.  Because '85 and earlier weren't roller cams, I have a different cam than the stock Mustang piece.  What you'll need is basically the EFI intakes, harness, fuel injectors, fuel rail & lines, fuel pump, computer, and a lot of other odds & ends (Sensors and stuff).  I think the easiest way to do it would be to find a junk T-bird/Cougar with SEFI and do a side-by-side swap.  That and an EVTM will be your friend.  I got one for about $12 on eBay.
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on March 28, 2007, 07:26:34 AM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;136848
  That and an EVTM will be your friend.  I got one for about $12 on eBay.


I agree with the EVTM.

The single greatest tool you will ever buy for a conversion...period.;)
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: V8Demon on March 28, 2007, 07:53:39 AM
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I think the easiest way to do it would be to find a junk T-bird/Cougar with SEFI and do a side-by-side swap.


He's looking to go HO not just do an SEFI upgrade.
About the only thing that would be useful to him is the wiring harness and a few sensors from an SEFI t-bird or cougar....
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: Ifixyawata on March 28, 2007, 09:16:23 PM
D'oh!  I guess buying a whole car for essentially the wiring harness is pretty dumb.  I'm just re-capping the parts that I've acquired.  I have the computer for a MkVII because I'll be using a cam with a 351 firing order and the E7TE heads... so mine's kind of a half-assed HO conversion I guess.
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: cougrrr302 on March 28, 2007, 11:04:10 PM
I dont have a set plan for what I intend to do to my engine as of yet. I would like to just get wheels, exhaust, and suspension done. Paint is pristine on my car(for now). I would like to rebuild it and stroke it to a 347. Anthony(kingcars) and I were discussing his power gains, and how much more responsive my Cougar seems to be after I chopped the ler off(odd I know). I pointed out that mine was CFI, and neither of us knew exactly what it would take to do such a conversion on the older style "EFI".
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: V8Demon on March 29, 2007, 12:33:23 AM
Quote from: Ifixyawata
I have the computer for a MkVII because I'll be using a cam with a 351 firing order and the E7TE heads... so mine's kind of a half-assed HO conversion I guess.


How is that a half-assed conversion?  The HO 5.0 and 351 share the same firing order........

Quote from: Cougrrr302
I pointed out that mine was CFI, and neither of us knew exactly what it would take to do such a conversion on the older style "EFI".


The biggest differences are of course your CFI setup AND your tappet-style camshaft.  If you wanna go roller cam you must do one of 2 things.
1.  Buy a retrofit roller cam for a flat tappet block
2. Swap your block.

Believe it or not #2 is cheaper.....  Find you a wrecked Mustang with a good motor for the easiest way to obtain all parts needed.
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: thunderjet302 on March 29, 2007, 02:01:06 AM
If your not really set on SEFI you could just throw a 4bbl and intake on it. You could then modify to your hearts content.
Title: HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0
Post by: cougrrr302 on March 30, 2007, 01:06:39 AM
As before mentioned. I have strongly thought about buying a 5.0 out of a Mustang and rebuilding mine seperately. Also thought about carbing it. I dont know yet, that is farther down my to do list. But it got me thinking. I almost had an wrecked 83 Heritage, but the Motherf**kers crushed it.