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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 26, 2007, 11:21:14 PM

Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 26, 2007, 11:21:14 PM
Would you recomend for this setup

n/a block done up with good rods and pistons

Head will be a N/A head ported and have big valves 1.94/1.50 if they will go chambers will be un shrouded and Polished to reduce compression.

induction will be a Full ported F.I lower w/4 brl adapter

Custom built 1-5/8 header (similar to the front mounted ATR)with a large external wastegate

650 double pumper

T70 turbo with the .86 exhaust housing

looking to run 26-30 psi and spray 50-75 on top of that through a carbed plate kit.My goal will be mid 6's in the 1/8th mile on this setup and cam selection is were im stuck at ive been looking at the .500 lift lunati but may have to go with a custom grind if no one thinks an off the shelf unit will work.

Any opinions?
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: dudeman351 on March 27, 2007, 06:58:25 AM
Draw through or blow through? FI would be so much easier to tune.I would use something in the .500 lift area 220
duration.


louie
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 08:01:29 AM
Quote from: dudeman351;136603
Draw through or blow through? FI would be so much easier to tune.I would use something in the .500 lift area 220
duration.


louie



blow through
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: daboss351 on March 27, 2007, 08:03:11 AM
yea why not jsut do fuel injection? to much work to wire it into the stang?
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: dudeman351 on March 27, 2007, 08:49:44 AM
With that much boost you might have problems collapsing the floats. plus you have to build a sealed box for the carb.



louie
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: 460 turbo truck on March 27, 2007, 04:54:54 PM
Quote from: dudeman351;136615
With that much boost you might have problems collapsing the floats. plus you have to build a sealed box for the carb.


i'd think you'd have a few more problems than that,

i'm no expert, but would that be enough pressure to back feed the carb's entire fuel system ?


at the same time, going carbed, your gonna have to get an MSD BTM, to back out the timing.

on a side note, you want to run mid 6's with a 2.3 turbo ... in what kinda car ?

i ran ..let's call it a 10 flat, in my beat-up old oil blowing 7 psi of boosted, 143k miles  N/A 2.3 motor, with a missed shift, and 3.23 gears,

i based all of my stuff of a gentalman in flordia that built his entire mustang with less than like 1000 $ worth of junk yard parts and some crafty-ness
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: dudeman351 on March 27, 2007, 05:52:21 PM
the fuel won't backflow if you have enough fuel pressure. to run 30psi of boost you would need about 35-40 psi of fuel pressure. prolly some kind of  FMU should work.


louie
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 08:38:36 PM
Quote from: daboss351;136612
yea why not jsut do fuel injection? to much work to wire it into the stang?




Dont want F.I
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
i'd think you'd have a few more problems than that,

Im aware of what I will have to do as far as carb and ignition.
Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
i'm no expert, but would that be enough pressure to back feed the carb's entire fuel system ?


If I was running a weak fuel system it may be an issue,Im running an aeromotive setup with boost referanced regulator

Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
at the same time, going carbed, your gonna have to get an MSD BTM, to back out the timing.

Not really It will be ran Locked out


Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
on a side note, you want to run mid 6's with a 2.3 turbo ... in what kinda car ?

87 hatchback mustang

Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
i ran ..let's call it a 10 flat, in my beat-up old oil blowing 7 psi of boosted, 143k miles  N/A 2.3 motor, with a missed shift, and 3.23 gears,

Cool

Quote from: 460 turbo truck;136702
i based all of my stuff of a gentalman in flordia that built his entire mustang with less than like 1000 $ worth of junk yard parts and some crafty-ness

Fourbanger ? :D
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: dudeman351;136615
With that much boost you might have problems collapsing the floats. plus you have to build a sealed box for the carb.



louie



To avoid having to completly enclose the carb it will have boost referanced throttle shafts
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 08:53:15 PM
this is the car and motor as it sits tonight
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: 88cat on March 27, 2007, 09:00:43 PM
Looking good making progress. Keep up the good work!
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: dudeman351 on March 27, 2007, 09:16:54 PM
Cool you did your homework and have it all figured out. That should be one bad @$$ mustang when you're done. I'm glad you're in TN and not here in FL. I'd hate to line up against you at orlando speedworld and get my doors blown off.(although i do miss my wrangler)


louie
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 27, 2007, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: dudeman351;136799
Cool you did your homework and have it all figured out. That should be one bad @$$ mustang when you're done. I'm glad you're in TN and not here in FL. I'd hate to line up against you at orlando speedworld and get my doors blown off.(although i do miss my wrangler)


louie


yeah ive been planning a setup like this for quite a few years but yet im still stuck on the camshaft
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: turbopete on March 30, 2007, 09:07:10 PM
1.49to 1.51" is the stock exhaust valve head size. Oversized exhaust are usally around 1.59" . You might get 1.94" intakes to fit, not sure, they are usually 1.89" OS. It willl be hard to unshroud either size in an NA head, especially 1.94s. Good luck with it, sounds like a neat project.
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on March 31, 2007, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: turbopete;137414
1.49to 1.51" is the stock exhaust valve head size. Oversized exhaust are usally around 1.59" . You might get 1.94" intakes to fit, not sure, they are usually 1.89" OS. It willl be hard to unshroud either size in an NA head, especially 1.94s. Good luck with it, sounds like a neat project.


Ive been working a little on the chambers,Im supposed to drop it off this next week to have the new seats cut.The chamber pic looks wierd because i used 2 exhaust valves so i could unshrould the intake valve side.Pic quality isnt the best  camera phone
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: the_intimidator03 on April 01, 2007, 04:15:55 AM
maybe couple quick phone calls to esslinger or racer walsh could help you pick out a camshaft for that set up.  i am pretty sure they can help you with that.  thats just my .02 cents but if u want a 3rd cent just build it and give it to me :-p
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: 460 turbo truck on April 01, 2007, 10:01:25 AM
http://msvorinich.itgo.com/oldindex/oldindex.html (http://"http://msvorinich.itgo.com/oldindex/oldindex.html")

This is the guy !! .. pre-warning, you get into this ... i'm only gonna read one more page mood, before you know it. your boss is on the phone wondering what excuse your going to use this time..for being 2 hours late :beatyoass: :hick:
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: CougarSE on April 01, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
I used to email Mike back and forth.. Its a shame to not see any new updates.
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: Tbird232ci on April 01, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: CougarSE;137615
I used to email Mike back and forth.. Its a shame to not see any new updates.

He's a jackass anyways.
Title: 2.3T cam
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on April 02, 2007, 11:52:07 PM
I decided on the .500 lift lunati it will be here tommorow around lunch ;)