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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: ztrane on March 26, 2007, 01:43:38 PM

Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on March 26, 2007, 01:43:38 PM
Okay, for some time I have been a fan of cougars. They are a coupe with some fast body blood. I found a guy who sold me his 88cougar for $200 after he blew rear main. It is white with blue interior, I will be pulling out most of the interior for sale. Also if any one needs a set of 5.0 heads, I got'em. It came with the white rims and has brand new Cobra cooper tires. Also, a 86-89 Lincoln 5.0 engine pulled running, comes with the deal. Just got the car hauled and got engine moved to my shop yesterday. Also I went to Oreilly's autoparts and picked up upper intake manifold gasket, exhaust manifold gasket kit, valve cover gaskets, throttle body gasket, new belt, upper and lower radiator hose, and a radiator bypass hose. I want to get the new engine lookin real nice. This is my first engine overhaul, not complete breakdown as I dont feel like spending a lot in the engine because I would like to overhaul again with a bigger engine. Its got the AOD tranny, which I like, It looks like a hurst shifter and sits up real high, like in camar/firebird. I don't get to go to the shop until after work (3pm) so this is going to take some time. Also I picked up a ac delco engien stand, going to get the engine dolly today to hoist it. Whats the best method of deleting the a/c? Is there kits available? or has someone down a custom? Any pointers on would be nice.
Thanks,
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on March 26, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
more pics
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: 5.0willgo on March 26, 2007, 02:00:09 PM
Nice purchase and welcome aboard.

To delete the AC you'll need the AC delete kit for a Mustang. Might have to make some slight modifications to it but I'm not entirely sure.

Feel free to post up what you are selling in the For sale section.  I have a blue interior as well and might take you up on some of the parts you are stripping.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 26, 2007, 02:09:48 PM
The FRPP A/C delete kit (and possibly others) requires that the power steering bracket be switched over to a 5.0 Mustang one. I would also recommend changing the pressure hose on the p/s to one from a Mustang without A/C. It's shorter and won't wrap around and hit the header and burn a hole in the hose, sending hot power steering fluid all over the engine compartment when you're on the turnpike going to a car show.

Ask me how I know this. ;)

Anyhoo...nice ride! Congrats on the purchase.
But what's up with the hood? Is that smeared dirt or something?
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on March 26, 2007, 03:03:49 PM
Awesome,
Also what is that accessory on front passenger side at the bottom?  It looks like a heater core circulator?? If there is such a thing...
I would like to get it removed also.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: 5.0willgo on March 26, 2007, 03:11:04 PM
That's the air pump. It's part of the emissions but is useless really.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 26, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Air pump. It pushes fresh air to the cylinder heads, and also to the catalytic converter. There are several elimination kits for it, usually a billet block with a pulley, for around $50.

http://www.uprproducts.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=161&cat=Eli
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: 88sportcoupe on March 26, 2007, 03:14:24 PM
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Also what is that accessory on front passenger side at the bottom?

AIR injection pump. Part of the emissions system

 i was too slow
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on March 26, 2007, 05:42:21 PM
Haha, i bet this cat wakes up a lil with eliminating a/c and air inject.  Any body got special req of interior/exterior/5.0L parts?  I will make sure and set them aside!
Thanks
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: vinnietbird on March 26, 2007, 06:08:24 PM
Good car to start with.One step at a time,and you'll get it done.I started from scratch myself.Show a couple of pics of the interior.Your shifter is probably the factory floor shifter.Take GOOOOD care of it.They are hard to find,and the cable that shifts it are even harder to find.Nice car.Where are you located?
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: 5.0willgo on March 26, 2007, 06:25:17 PM
What do you plan on stripping from the car?
You can pm or email me with the list and I'll see if I need anything.

I don't want to request something you don't plan on removing...
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on March 27, 2007, 12:22:38 PM
I am in Oklahoma, I will be stripping all interior, except HUD for right now.  The shifter im not sure about, I will just need minimals to keep car running.  Later I will get into replacing gauges and shifter.  I will get some pics of the interior also.  What is the difference in these water pumps?  One looks rigid and rusted and the other is curvy.  Im trying to isolate the best one.
Thanks,
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 19, 2007, 10:45:51 PM
Okay I am at a point where i need help. the manual doesnt have the accesory layout diagram.  I have 3-4 pulley bracket  peices and havent the slightest idea where each goes. I think im going to run the short belt route w/o the eliminator kits for right now, but does anyone have a diagram for the pulley layout?
thanks
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 23, 2007, 03:30:20 PM
Okay, I got the accessories together.  The previous owner left a brand new 180degree  thermos inside manifold.  I got the engine completly done, including deburring the intake/exhaust runners.  Also I ran little 1/4" tunnels inside top corners of exhaust runners (between valve seats). Another week and I will have the interior up for sale.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: vinnietbird on April 23, 2007, 03:54:22 PM
What part of Ok. are you in?I'm in Ardmore.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 23, 2007, 04:18:04 PM
im in norman, my cougar is in goldsby, you know where that is?
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 25, 2007, 07:19:46 AM
Okay the motor mounts on the previous engine were brand new and had rubber insets with metal safety tabs.  The motor mounts on the new engine are direct bolt on.  Other than wild vibration and feeling every cyl, would it be hard on frame or whatever if i just bolt the engine to the frame.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: vinnietbird on April 25, 2007, 02:54:14 PM
I lived in Norman for quite some time when I was younger.827 Richmond Drive.It was a new neighborhood back then.Not new now.I know the town really well.Goldsby,I'm not sure of.

Motor mounts...Bolt the engine to the fram?What do you mean by that?Can't you just use the factory motor mounts with the rubber cushions?
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 26, 2007, 07:10:02 AM
Yea I have those, but this engine came from a Lincoln and has these mounts that with same extra thick grade8 washers, will bolt right to frame.  I can use the factory cushions too, didnt know if the vibration of the engine will hinder life of car.
Title: Just bought 88 XR7
Post by: ztrane on April 26, 2007, 08:45:35 AM
I had to relocate the tensioner's range, by drilling 1/4" hole about an inch counter clokcwise on alternator bracket.  this frees up the belt to run across to power steering. see picture above.  I hope this works! Also, whats a safe amount of juice the stock engine can hold? I wnat like 125 shot, whats needed to support that?  I hope not whole new bottom end.

Nitrous Controller:
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/misc/spotlight/sl-71900.shtml
Nitrous Inject Kit:
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/nitrous_systems/efi_perf_rpm.shtml