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Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 23, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
I got bored the other day and decided to put my saleen wing on the bird, I actually like the look, just need to paint it in a few weeks.  I already know alot of you guys dont like wings on here but what the hell......  What do you guys think?
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: daboss351 on March 23, 2007, 03:03:18 PM
its a little tall for my liking but maybe thats just the pics not bad other wise
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Red_LX on March 23, 2007, 03:10:52 PM
Blech. Is that a coupe/vert wing or a hatchback wing? Looks like a hatchback wing meaning it doesn't fit right anyway.


Also, I just have to ask this...why in the hell are you still running those godawful spoke hubcaps on your car?
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: bhazard on March 23, 2007, 08:35:04 PM
Heh Ive never had a thing for wings/spoilers...

And yeah, the spoke grannycaps do stand out most on that car hahaha.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: beaterjeep on March 23, 2007, 09:17:15 PM
I like it, it's not too tall and it kinda adds to the whole look of the car.  How's the fitment on the trunk though?
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 84 Fila on March 23, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
I personaly think it would look better on a cougar, and it might be a bit tall but it doesn't look that bad
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: vinnietbird on March 23, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
No,not working for me.If you like it,that's all that matters.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Autocat on March 23, 2007, 11:11:11 PM
i thought about this exact thing... meh...  im not too impressed, but with your scoop it seems to fit.  im just ganna prolly bolt on a Nascar style spoiler on the back of mine.  just like the cars on the track now (not the car of tomarrow)  you all know the body line that goes to the brim i guess you could call it of the trunk, im thinking of about 4-5 inches tall and continues that angle.  which wouldnt be very agreesive at all.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 88turbo on March 23, 2007, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: Autocat;136040
i thought about this exact thing... meh...  im not too impressed, but with your scoop it seems to fit.  im just ganna prolly bolt on a Nascar style spoiler on the back of mine.  just like the cars on the track now (not the car of tomarrow)  you all know the body line that goes to the brim i guess you could call it of the trunk, im thinking of about 4-5 inches tall and continues that angle.  which wouldnt be very agreesive at all.


I thought aboput the same idea of spoiler when I find my sport.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Autocat on March 23, 2007, 11:17:15 PM
i know some people, not very well, but i might be able to get a second hand Nascar spoiler.  it'd cost tho, so i might just make one myself.

perks of going to Nascar Technical Instetute.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 23, 2007, 11:58:40 PM
Quote from: Red_LX;136014
Blech. Is that a coupe/vert wing or a hatchback wing? Looks like a hatchback wing meaning it doesn't fit right anyway.


Also, I just have to ask this...why in the hell are you still running those godawful spoke hubcaps on your car?



No it is off of my '88 LX coupe so it fits  near perfect, and as for the hub caps....  Ever hear of winter rims?  And yes I know, they have to go.
I have a set of gold turbines to go on it once I get some rubber for them, I am waiting though because I might do the 5 bolt swap soon.  Need a set of CHE control arms first so I can install my 8.8 with 4.10's
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: yellow86coogr on March 24, 2007, 12:05:50 AM
I like wings most of the time, but I never cared much for those particular ones. Like vinnie said, all that matters is wether you like it. I am curious about that cougar in the background on your first picture. Is it yours?
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 24, 2007, 09:54:55 AM
yeah thats one of mine.  I have 2, one '85 and one '86 (that one)
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Brypur on March 24, 2007, 10:16:47 AM
I'm split. I don't think it looks too bad but it is not fully in character with the smooth areodynamic lines of the bird. However the scoop isn't in line with them either. Which is what makes it work a bit better. Dunno. If you like it, go for it. Just don't expect it to actually do anything other then style. I see it causing more drag on the rear end limiting top end speed. Of course that is only an issue if you are running the track. For which the Nascar style spoiler is a much better choice.

Bryan
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 5.0willgo on March 24, 2007, 11:03:08 AM
I don't think it looks bad. Since it's white it looks huge and a little out of place but that will surely change once you paint it.

I think it would look awesome if the car had ground effects on it.


About the Nascar spoiler, IIRC in the past (and I'm talking the 80's through early 90's) the manufacturers would supply certain parts to teams. For instance the hood, trunk, front bumper, rear bumper and I think sometimes the roof panel. In theory, the trunk supplied by Ford for the T-bird in the 80's should be fairly close to a standard production part. So if you could find a spoiler from an '87-'88 T-bird race car, it should fit decently.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Autocat on March 24, 2007, 11:13:42 AM
Quote from: 5.0willgo;136088
I don't think it looks bad. Since it's white it looks huge and a little out of place but that will surely change once you paint it.

I think it would look awesome if the car had ground effects on it.


About the Nascar spoiler, IIRC in the past (and I'm talking the 80's through early 90's) the manufacturers would supply certain parts to teams. For instance the hood, trunk, front bumper, rear bumper and I think sometimes the roof panel. In theory, the trunk supplied by Ford for the T-bird in the 80's should be fairly close to a standard production part. So if you could find a spoiler from an '87-'88 T-bird race car, it should fit decently.


actually 83-88 (before and after that too) nascar had to used the stock green house, hod and deck lid.  and not all of the green house had to be used (the pillars didnt have to be the same legnth or stock essentially.  thats why when your runnin down the interstate, start passing a semi and when you get to the nose of the truck you notice the truck either pushing or pulling you twards it.  the bumpres were hand made, the headerpanel forward i should say. the skin on the doors and quarter panels i beleve were up to artistic licence, and the back bumper was built out of steel to simulate our rear bumpers.  but yea, the decklid, hood and roof were OEM parts. also nascar used the 302 sport coupe as the basis of their cars.. v8>4cyl etc.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: P71 on March 24, 2007, 11:16:30 AM
That's not true. I have pics of a NASCAR garage in 87 doing the rebody work on the T-Birds and they had White TC bumpers on the rear.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 5.0willgo on March 24, 2007, 11:27:22 AM
Okay, I wasn't exactly sure how they did it in the '80's. I do remember touring Roush Racing in '94 and the fabricator said how Ford supplied them with the nose and rear bumper as well as the hood, roof, and deck lid. The nose and bumper weren't OEM parts from a street car but were distributed by Ford to all teams running their car.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: 1BadBird on March 24, 2007, 02:19:09 PM
I kinda like it. It'll look better after you paint it. I was always wondering if a stang wing would fit on our cars, just never had one to try it. I'd get yelled at for doing what I wanted to my car anyway by everybody here, ya know, "That's too ricey looking".
I'd probably put your other hood back on though. I saw it leaning on the barn in the back ground.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: V8Demon on March 24, 2007, 02:23:25 PM
Paint it and it won't look so huge-mongus.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Autocat on March 24, 2007, 03:45:13 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;136092
That's not true. I have pics of a NASCAR garage in 87 doing the rebody work on the T-Birds and they had White TC bumpers on the rear.


Thats entirely possibly that the rear bumpers were stockish bumpers from ford, and for the front bumper, they have to use the same nose cone of fiberglass thats header to the ground, b/c it's spec racing.  i've watched plenty of espn classics nascar races with the 87 and 88 (even guys running 88s in 89) and they all had the sport coupe grille. i actually used my dvr and looked at every 87-88 bird and NONE had the tc header panel design.  i would figure since you really really had a lot of poetic licence with the cas back then, you'd see one turbo coupe.  now.. they did have a TC pace car in 87-88 and my dad's old boss owned one, and at the plant they had a quarter mile strip of parking lot and my dad said the guy let him drive it and it scared the shiznit out of the owner.  like now adays tho, ford, gm and toyta basically sells the body panels that make each car individual, but today they realllly dont use anything period OEM, plenty of parts a hot rod car owner would use, but not OEM.

back in the 80's they were pretty much unlimited.. i mean they were but no where near today.  and im ganna go on the record and say that our aerobirds were the dodge daytonas of the 80's b/c all of the good drivers from the 80's drove them.  bill elliot, the allisons, kuiki (sp?) etc all dominated with the aero bird.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 24, 2007, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: Autocat;136150
they all had the sport coupe grille. i actually used my dvr and looked at every 87-88 bird and NONE had the tc header panel design.  i would figure since you really really had a lot of poetic licence with the cas back then, you'd see one turbo coupe. 

A big reason for that is aerodynamic tuning. For high banked ovals, theyd tape the nose up for more air going over the car, and on short tracks, theyd take the tape off for airflow through the radiator, and more resistance on the nose.
Title: fox body Saleen wing on an '88 Bird
Post by: rgobble2 on April 14, 2007, 01:40:47 AM
i have a 2001 mazda 626 wing on mine not much on that style of wing but hey if you like t h-ll with everyone else