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General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: Ace on March 13, 2007, 12:47:25 PM

Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 13, 2007, 12:47:25 PM
Hey everybody Im new to the fourms since I just Acquired a 87 turbocoupe but im mostly a mustang guy but wanted a nice daily driver so got a TC for cheap!  I got it with a blown motor which is no big deal. I already have another motor for it but the questions are:
It has the automatic which is not a problem but Do they make torque convertors/ shift kits for these trans? If so, where could I acquire one.  The other question is that If they are fairly expensive to acquire, Do I need a different driveshaft if I throw a T-5 behind the turbo 4? 
Another thing that was coming into my mind was a different turbo but the question was if I went to a T3/t4 Hybrid, would I just need to get bigger injectors and fuel pump or would I have to get a stand alone ECU to make everything work right with the air and such since the car is speed density if I am not mistaken.  Thank you to everyone who took time to read this post and insert your info!!
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: turbo83coupe on March 13, 2007, 06:04:23 PM
Welcome! Where at edzactly in PA is Stroudsburg? I live about 40 miles form Pittsburgh.. I have a driveshaft that was behind a T5, and I have a good hydrolic bellhousing. I would like to keep the transmition though for a backup. I would sell these for cheap if you want to go the 5 spd route (highly suggested over the automatic), or you will be doing a transmition swap soon anyway.. HTH

Frank M.
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 13, 2007, 07:22:14 PM
Stroudsburg is on the other side of the state and I have all the stuff to do it cept pedals and driveshaft and stuff and im gonna go Cable not hydro bc I can adjust the cable.  But thanks for the offer!
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Post by: ipsd on March 13, 2007, 08:12:01 PM
Nice to have another Turbo Coupe on the board. First off they do make shift kits for your tranny. Like T.C. 83 said those tranny's are known to be weak. The Auto cars ran less boost than the 5spd cars. If yo go the 5spd route get a 5spd ECU to go along with it. You shouldn't have to upgrade the injectors to put the T3-4 Hybrid on there. I put one on my 84 Turbo coupe. I did upgrade it to the 87-88 intake,intercooler, brown top injectors. That should be what you already have. I will spool a little slower than the IHI that is on there but you will have alot more top end with the Hybrid.  I also have the cable clutch in mine. Only 87-88 came with the Hydro setup.  Also make sure to check out this 2.3turbo site. http://www.turboford.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
Good luck
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 15, 2007, 06:48:17 AM
Thank you for the information Mr. "ipsd" and that answered most my questions I had and Such but now I have to ask, where is the trans ECU located and are the driveshafts the same between 5 spd and the al4d or is the lengths different? thank you for responding though!
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: ipsd on March 15, 2007, 09:58:57 AM
I do believe that the trans comupter is part of the engine ECU in 88. I don't think the 87 had electric tranny. I could be wrong though. I have no clue on the drive shaft. If you were to head over to turbo ford they could answer your question.
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Post by: Kitz Kat on March 15, 2007, 05:00:19 PM
It's a A4LD trans,Its not electronic,Welcome Pa.
were close.If you can swing the 5 speed your on your way.
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Post by: daboss351 on March 15, 2007, 07:18:36 PM
the computer is in the passenger kick panel its one bolt, if you go to 5 speed swap the computer, for some more ponies!
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 15, 2007, 08:22:33 PM
very good info to know! thank you for that and I just picked up a volvo intercooler for cheap so im half on my way haha.  So nobody knows if I need to get a diff driveshaft or not yet but everything else is pretty much covered!
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Post by: daboss351 on March 15, 2007, 08:23:47 PM
if i talk to my dad ill find out, since he did the swap, i don't think it needs to be though, im not sure
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Post by: *MAYHEM* on March 15, 2007, 08:40:36 PM
ACE!!!! Glad you could make it, man.
 
Did you bring the chips and dip? :D
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Post by: tireshredder on March 15, 2007, 10:29:27 PM
If you keep hitting every new member up for food, you might not be able to work under the car soon.  Let me take some for you. :D
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Post by: Ace on March 16, 2007, 10:31:28 AM
hey now you dont need anymore chippies your kitty cat is heavy enough as it is :) haha justt kidding.  So yeah was gonna pull the motor/trans tonight but i guess old man winter decided yeah lets screw this guy over with the tbird and decides to drop 6 inches of snow :(  anybody know aboot the driveshaft yet??!?!
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Post by: Red_LX on March 16, 2007, 11:18:49 AM
Hey Ace, I wouldn't throw a hybrid on an otherwise stock car. You won't like it. I currently have a 57 trim I got a sweet deal on, but I'm looking at going back to a .60/.63 T3, as the hybrid spools up alright with what i have done, but I don't care for how high up you have to run it to really make good power.

If the IHI is OK, why not stick with it for now? Otherwise, throw a T3 on there, it's a lot cheaper than a hybrid too.
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 16, 2007, 11:51:13 AM
the only thing that is stock on the car is the bottom end the head has aboot 2 grand worth of porting and polishing done to it with a 5 angle valve job and all that great stuff and Has a Ford Motorsports cam in it Ihave the number of thecam at my house but not at work haha.  The car that the 2.3 came out of use to be a autocross car and won a few races and such and I took it out of my notch because I had a 306 for it and I can get a t3/t4 hybrid for a very resonable price from one of my friends thats why I was asking aboot it!
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Red_LX on March 16, 2007, 01:12:23 PM
Ah, well you didn't mention that.


Well...be careful with that auto trans, you'll probably blow it up.
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 16, 2007, 01:20:48 PM
haha yeah I Kinda figured that I was going to throw a shiftkit/torque convertor in it but decided against that and have a t-5 setup for it as mention in the first post but I need to find out if the Driveshafts are the same for the t5 and a4ld and I need to get the 5 spd ECU and the pedals but those things are tricky to find anymore!
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Post by: turbo83coupe on March 16, 2007, 04:50:07 PM
I have the pedal assembly, I can help you out with that! The driveshaft of the T5 will be different. I also have a driveshaft, so depending on where you are edzactly, I could get it to you as well. I have a freind that travel out past penn state pracitcally every weekend to see his gf... So if you are close to that, you owuld not have to pay fo rshipping, and I could get you a good deal!

Frank M.
Title: Hello Everyone!
Post by: Ace on March 16, 2007, 05:19:17 PM
how much and im 15 mins from the jersey line google it! Stroudsburg Pa
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Post by: thundr306 on March 18, 2007, 10:50:10 AM
Ace, I have a free T-5 driveshaft. Just trying to make room in the garage. It is an 1:20 min drive though. Let me know.
Jim
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Post by: Ace on March 18, 2007, 02:09:23 PM
1:20 meaning a Hour and 20 min drive correct?  Well im getting a 84 mustang with a t5 in it for 50 bucks sometime this week that has everything in it but is all rotted out and motor is blown possibly but If that driveshaft doesnt work then I could swing by I suppose haha any other good parts like a 5 spd ECU? haha
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Post by: CougarSE on March 19, 2007, 02:25:02 PM
Quote from: tireshredder;134799
If you keep hitting every new member up for food, you might not be able to work under the car soon. Let me take some for you. :D

He aint too far from that now! 
 
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