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Title: oem exhaust
Post by: TucanSam on February 07, 2007, 11:29:16 PM
I searched several different sites and cant find the answer.

What diameter downpipe does my 86TC have?  Is the rest of the exhaust the same size diameter?

With a 3in downpipe splitting to duals, 2.25in diameter mandrel bent pipes are all thats needed, anything larger is overkill.

I want to keep my tailpipes tucked up under the body like the 88TCs.  Do I have to buy oem type tailpipes from a place like Napa, or can I shorten the hangers on a 87-93 Mustang system to make them sit higher?
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Red_LX on February 08, 2007, 10:34:12 AM
Stock downpipe is 2.5". And no.

I have dual 2.5" tailpipes coming out the back, I bought those because they were readily available mandrel bent (mustang tailpipes). There's no such thing as overkill in the exhaust behind a turbo.

As far as tucking the tailpipes...well, if you buy mustang tailpipes you have to lengthen them anyway. Get LX-style pipes and just put a turndown on the end of the pipe.  Also, you can tuck bigger pipes up a LITTLE bit but you start hitting stuff. If you really want them to tuck up like stock tailpipes you'd probably have to have some made for you.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Chuck W on February 08, 2007, 11:23:19 AM
The DP on the 83-86 TCs is 2-1/4".  The 87-88 TCs have the 2-1/2" DP.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: TucanSam on February 08, 2007, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Red_LX;128262
There's no such thing as overkill in the exhaust behind a turbo.


Sure there is.

Area of a circle = 3.14 x R x R.

A 2.5 in downpipe has an area of 4.9 in, a dual 2 in system has an area of 6.28 in.

A 3.0 in downpipe has an area of 7.1 in, a dual 2.25 system has an area of 7.9 in.

A larger than needed exhaust system will add unwanted weight, cause fitment issues, and cost more money.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Chuck W on February 08, 2007, 12:00:14 PM
Well you obviously have everything all figured out.  What do you need us for?

If you're worried about weight/cost/fitment, then why even futz with a dual exhaust, esp on a car that came with a single one to begin with?  You just neutered your own argument right there.  Run a single 3".

The more free-flowing the exhaust the better with a turbocharged engine.  Is a 3.5 or 4" system overkill?  Perhaps, unless you're running a Holset or some other large turbo.  But it's only "overkill" in the sense that you are paying more for little gain over a 3" system, which is plenty for most of these cars (2.3T).
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Red_LX on February 08, 2007, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: TucanSam;128271
Sure there is.

Area of a circle = 3.14 x R x R.

A 2.5 in downpipe has an area of 4.9 in, a dual 2 in system has an area of 6.28 in.

A 3.0 in downpipe has an area of 7.1 in, a dual 2.25 system has an area of 7.9 in.

A larger than needed exhaust system will add unwanted weight, cause fitment issues, and cost more money.


You're right, sorry I tried to help :rolleyes:

Better stick with that 2.5" downpipe and 2" exhaust, wouldn't want all that extra weight slowing you down!
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: TucanSam on February 08, 2007, 01:32:36 PM
You guys have pissy attitudes, after a week here I see that if I have an idea or disagree with you, then your right and Im wrong.

Ive been in this hobby over 30 years, I think I know alittle bit about it.

I can go somewhere else.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Chuck W on February 08, 2007, 01:41:15 PM
Christ, can your skin be any more thin?

Obviously you want everyone to just nod their heads and agree with you. 

I haven't been in the hobby for over 30 years, but I'm not an idiot.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Red_LX on February 08, 2007, 02:10:37 PM
I know a little bit about it too. I gave you answers to your questions and you tell me they're wrong? And then you say I have a pissy attitude.

Don't ask questions, then feel the need to disprove the answers people give you. You might find nobody wanting to help you out anymore.
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: bhazard on February 08, 2007, 02:10:50 PM
Someones manpon fell out...
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: TucanSam on February 08, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
No, I asked you boys what the oem exhaust system consisted of.

I disagree that bigger is better and pointed out my reasoning.  If you dont agree with me, fine.

To get all pissy and say I shouldnt ask T-Bird specific questions, shows me that you are know-it-alls interested in promoting yourselves.

I can find the information I want elsewhere without there having to be alot of Drama involved.

Thank you
Title: oem exhaust
Post by: Red_LX on February 08, 2007, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: TucanSam;128325
No, I asked you boys what the oem exhaust system consisted of.


No. You asked what size the stock downpipe was and then asked about tailpipes, and I told you.

As far as your "bigger is not better" theory, you apparently know nothing about turbos.

I encourage you to go elsewhere, because YOU are the one acting like a knowitall.