Hey guys question for ya?
When i go to do my 5 lug conversion(maybe this year,just trying to get sorted what i need)if i use the mark vii rotors for the front will the dust caps for the bearings stick out beyound the center caps of cobra r wheels??
I here the matk vii bearing snout sticks out kind of far???
Anybody done this????
The hubs will stick out of the wheel. In some cases, the hub is too thick of a diameter, and you need to grind it down to fit the wheel also. Personally, id save a little, and do some hunting for SN95 stuff.
If i go sn95 do i not have to change my front spindles and ball joints???
If so i'm not going that route as i just put new ball joints in not long ago and since i already have a tc i've got 11" rotors.
Due to that the benifits would be next to nill and not woth the time and effort.
Any other suggestions??
You will not need new ball-joints to use the SN-95 stuff, but you would need new spindles.
There are no other suggestions. The Mk7/SVO front rotors are really the only 11" 5-lug route if you are dead set on keeping the Fox set-up. The SN-95 stuff (even the 11" stuff) is much better overall. The 99-04 V6-GT 2-piston AL PBRs are leaps and bounds over the 11" Fox stuff. The 94-98 calipers are still 1-piston cast iron units, but at least gain the benefits of the better hubs/bearings.
Hey chuck
I just read the tech info and it says they must be changed to a newer style,also it says you must change the tie rods(inner and outer)then the spindles,sealed bearing hub assemlies(way to much work and money man).
The mark vii rotors(why are the snout's longer and can the dust caps not be modified,it's still the same spindle(forgive my ignorance but i have not seen one in person)How much do they stick out of a cobra r???
Also it say it changes the offset and location of the wheel??
Want to keep my abs intact as well,don't think the sn-95 stuff will work.
Were you reading my tech info (http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/4to5lug.html), by any chance?
Using 1994-95 spindles won't affect your steering rack. 1996-2004 spindles definitely will, though, and people have solved the problem with inner and outer tie rods from the SN95 Mustangs of those years.
The whole SN95 system (and similarly, MN12) consists of the spindle and sealed hub assembly, with a rotor that slides over the hub. It sounds complicated but it's not...actually, compared to a Fox car it's more simple if anything. You don't have to pack bearings anymore with that system.
Now there are holes in the SN95 spindles to mount ABS sensors. The hubs have exciter rings. Whether or not these will work for you I cannot say. I think Shawn tried to get them to work, or did some research on that. He can probably relate things better to you.
The only "bolt-on" solution is indeed the Mark VII rotor with the ABS ring. The centers on certain wheels will not snap in. These are the facts. I would imagine that in this situation a 1/8" wheel spacer would solve the centercap problem. That would not affect the ABS system.
You can also use the SN-95 spindles with the Fox balljoints w/o issue. All that is needed is a short spacer under the ball joint nut as the shank of the Fox ball joint is longer than the SN-95 one. Works fine though....as I have done 3 of my cars that way.....
Not sure on the ABS deal. I think Sean's problem was with the rear not the front.
The Mark VII front rotors will allow you to keep the ABS. The rear is the difficult part. In the rear, i used 91-92 LSC rear brakes, which are very similar to the TC. Uses same calipers and brackets, but their own rotor, exle end bracket, axles, and ABS sensors. I couldnt get the ABS sensors to fit in the rear brackets on the rear without doing some grinding, and since i had issues with my front rotors and exciter rings, i did away with the ABS.
Regardless of which way you go, its not cheap or easy.